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stevenglobal
post Jun 5 2009, 07:22 PM

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Aiya, everybody good luck also lor...
But I don't think I'm top buyer lar...
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post Jun 6 2009, 02:25 AM

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QUOTE(sjz @ Jun 6 2009, 01:47 AM)
i don't think that the couple want to throw all of their share.
i think they are cooperating with syndicate to create selling pressure to lower the price in order for syndicate to buy shares in low price and earn from the losses suffered by those contra kaki.
B-Q for 0.075 is 560k total amount = RM4,200,000.
who have such large amount of money?
unless out there a lot of ppl buying COMPUGT la..
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Me too, probably they want to have some cash, , given the conditions as follows :

a)
Compugates Holdings Bhd Announces Cessation Of Operations Of Compugates (S) Pte Ltd
Monday, 23 Feb 2009 04:59am EST

Compugates Holdings Bhd announced that Compugates (S) Pte Ltd (Compugates Singapore), a 99.99% owned subsidiary, will cease its operations by March 31, 2009. The cessation of the business operations of Compugates Singapore is due to business losses incurred and was no longer feasible taking into consideration the economic downturn and also part of the Compugates Group’s streamlining activities being undertaken.

b)
COMPUGATES HOLDINGS BERHAD (“COMPUGATES” OR “THE COMPANY”)
- FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE PROVIDED BY COMPUGATES MARKETING SDN BHD (“CMSB”), A WHOLLY-OWNED SUBSIDIARY OF THE COMPANY, TO COMPUGATES DEVELOPMENT AND MINING SDN BHD (“CDMSB”), A 60%-OWNED SUBSIDIARY OF CMSB. The Board of Directors of Compugates (“Board”) wishes to announce that its wholly-owned subsidiary, CMSB has provided financial assistance of RM11,536,207.63 to CDMSB, a 60%-owned subsidiary of CMSB (“the Provision of Financial Assistance”) for a period from 16 September 2008 to 13 March 2009.



The good news is

Compugates Holdings Bhd's Subsidiary Receives Contract
Tuesday, 13 Jan 2009 04:54am EST

Compugates Holdings Bhd announced that ETI Tech (M) Sdn Bhd (ETI) has appointed Compugates Sdn Bhd (CSB), a wholly owned subsidiary of the Company, as its distributor for the promotion and sale of ETIs products, namely Nano Mobile Charger Series, within Malaysia, Bangladesh, Indonesia and Cambodia for a period of one year commencing January 13, 2009 (Appointment), and shall be renewable for another two years from the date of its signature unless terminated by either party for a valid reason giving to the other not less than three months written notice.


Now, the economy starts to come back, probably will be adjusting among themselves.


Added on June 6, 2009, 2:25 am
QUOTE(ABC2020 @ Jun 6 2009, 12:44 AM)
Dont worry the couple still remain less than 782,684,110 shares to throw.......  should able to clear all by next weak. What cause the selling? Is that possible the force sell by the bank? don't expect the retainer able to absorb that much of shares. pretty sure the the big player is buying. Another director (Datuk Goh Tian Chuan) is buying too with great amount (20/05/2009  10,000,000 shares) the price should 0.115 or above. so i assume that, compugt is unlike to close shop. Plus last Quarterly rpt financial period ended 31/3/2009 post with net profit 31K. 31K !!!!? that really not very good. Still ok lah, atleast not suffer huge lost... tomorrow must check the cash flow..........!!!!!
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Perhaps of the subsidiary losses.

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post Jun 6 2009, 03:08 PM

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Great.
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post Jun 6 2009, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(Jackieboy @ Jun 6 2009, 08:05 PM)
Some people only hear what they want to hear.
Don't be greedy.
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I wonder if you have anything that people don't want to hear? I'm finding it also. Learning process lor.
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post Jun 6 2009, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(stanly007_2 @ Jun 6 2009, 09:54 PM)
no matter what i am going to load another 5000 units smile.gif
Next monday smile.gif
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cannot tahan? Monday I also don't know what will happen.
If it goes below, I'm ready just put there until one day....lor.
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post Jun 8 2009, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(selenium @ Jun 7 2009, 11:51 PM)
last week la. wednesday. the money is already in the account and the trading limit is already set to 100k.
but the funny thing is when i buy the shares. it says that my trading limit is rm0.00

which is funny. aih hopefully next week still will be 0.07-0.08 range la.
if not sure miss out
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I'm sure you have proof that you have banked in the amount, perhaps you need to call the broker to help you to check. By the way, the checking should be very fast, doesn't require a day to adjust it for you, unless their system and service is poor. Then we sing it loud here. smile.gif


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post Jun 8 2009, 01:01 AM

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Based on the history, the couple hold their shares normally from 51% to the highest 68%.

On 18 May, The couple still buy shares, to maintain > 50%, which is 50.04%.
On 20 May, Dato Goh actually increase his shares from 5.11 to 5.58%.
* I suspect the couple has given the info to Dato *

Dato Goh was actually IMHO, considered as friend, dated back at 18 Oct 2007, which he has bought 5.11% shares in Compugates. Given some tips that Dato has not touched this stock for a long time, and how he would know this is the time to buy?

Only start from 27 - 29 May, the couple shares at 43.46 + 0.06%
Then 01 - 03 Jun, the couple shares at 36.64 + 0.31%.
The closing price for 01 - 05 Jun, where they hold only 37%, the share price is 0.075 - 0.080, nothing lower much.

Basically I think the couple will buy back, They still want to be the major shareholders. May 27 to June 5, it's only about 1 week, that they hold below 51%.


Added on June 8, 2009, 1:21 amFrom the info of changes of shareholders,

The pattern is like this, previously they also dispose the shares until 51%, not lower like this month this year, then after the next month, they would buy back up until 60+% shares.

They buy back (increase their shares) for following periods :
At year 2006, Sept onwards
At year 2007, Aug onwards
At year 2008, Jul onwards,

They dispose mostly at
At year 2006, Starts Feb
At year 2007, Starts Mar
At year 2008, Starts Mar
For year 2009, Starts Feb

* Just check it for yourself, in bursa malaysia *

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QUOTE(omione @ Jun 8 2009, 10:59 AM)
Hi Stevenglobal,

You seem knowledgeable about the ins and outs of Compugates.

I find the couple's trading pattern rather illogical if they are truly trading to make good money. Between Jun 1 - 3, they sold the total of 145 million shares when the price hit the low of 7.5 sen. They only bought back 5.3 million shares during this period. Bearing in mind that between May 12 and now, they have sold a total of 635 million shares, more than half of their holding at the peak. The only way to buy more at a profit is to crash the price lower!

Or could there to some other kind of strategy they are executing?
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Thanks for reply. Not knowledgeable, just based on the history.
Shares prices getting low got 2 reason :

a) The couple dispose their shares from 60+++ % majority come to 50.04% at the higher price already.
(so probably they have make that profit at the stage of > 0.100)
10% of shares make profit.

b) The couple dispose their shares again until below 51%, perhaps they might lose over here, since selling the lower price. Therefore 10% of shares make losses. By doing this, it also shake off those people who bought above > 0.100, (extra fats) and the price would low automatically.

Since this year is the economy downturn, who would think of investing penny company, or to try to buy over the majority shares of compugates. So they dare to challenge themselves to the market, with weapon behind (which is to make the price steady)

Strategies,
i) By keeping the shares price low and steady, so to make people boring to play this shares, at the sametime, to attract quality good buyer.

Quality Good buyer means will invest in this penny company for sometime (long term) such as Dato' Goh, no matter what happens. This is good for company.

ii) The second thing is when the price is low enough, the couple could enter the shares with majority quantity of shares very easily. They could even easily buy up until 51% with a price of 0.075, compare to a price of 0.150. Currently hold 37%.

iii) Identify the volume, since the couple is doing the selling, such as 145 Millions of shares, at least another 145millions of shares for buying. This is very important to create the traffic, without traffic, by buying their own shares back without a group of audience, it's very hard to have the power to UP.


The timing is like this:
The attraction is like this, when every other shares is down, the couple can stimulate the UPs, before doing this, the market need to be down at least 2 to 3 days... By then, everyone will get excited over this counter, since no other shares can be so attractive than this.


Remember,
EPF invest in a company need to get profit. So does the director. Director invest in a company also need to have profit, not only from the business, but also from the shares. EPF can manipulate the shares up, so does the majority shareholders. So if majority shareholder can not dispose their shares, how they could buy back? Is it always to increase their majority shares up to 100%, until then there is no one is shareholders but only the COUPLE?



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post Jun 8 2009, 06:15 PM

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Sorry, to be continue is refer above already. Type at the same posting.
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post Jun 8 2009, 06:28 PM

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Not forgetting the rules of the strategies....such as...

Volume is big and the price is steady is the best situation.
Volume is small and the price is steady is still a good situation.
(b'coz achieve the price 0.075 - 0.080 already since last week)
- I suspect this is a well-planned number.

So, the main thing would jeopordize / damage this system, is the price, and then the volume is big that this couple out of control. Such as price up, and price down. So the price down currently control by the Couple, b'coz 37% + 6% dato goh, and few small small one. So the couple already know how to play. And everybody is happy for those who control the Price Up, including the couple.
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post Jun 8 2009, 06:37 PM

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Well you can take this case to study KNM, invested by EPF.
So there isn't a formula what price you should need to take profit and stop loss.

For me in order to play, I need to play by their rules of games.
In other words, the behaviour of this shares and to know their company a bit well. For a long term profit or investment, do a bit of research lor.
Research : Basically Numbers, and News.

For short term, RM1 profit also profit, right?

If you are out of this compugates, you still need to choose whether which counter would suits you more.
KNM is simply based on OIL price, Projects plus investment by EPF.
(Up when good news, down due to profit taking and bad news)


Added on June 8, 2009, 6:47 pmSo the behaviour of this shares,
The couple dispose so many which is holding only 37%, first time ever,
taking about 1 - 2 weeks, the longer they hold the price, the higher it would be.

Becoz, very simple answer, everybody want to take profit once up a little-little bit because of (the couple) holding too long lor. During this time, the couple would start to eat from 37 up to 65%. Not only outsider will keep on buying, you yourself also want to buy again. So it generates heat.

So the answer is, do you still hold when it only up a little 0.005? perhaps 0.010 or 0.015?
Do you still buy, when it continue to go up only 0.005? 0.010? or 0.015?

Playing shares just like playing your emotion. rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(omione @ Jun 8 2009, 06:55 PM)
I believe this counter is control by syndicate (with the couple's coop). I don't know how high they will want to drive it. I think this stock should reach 14 sen easy because fundamentally this is not a bad stock at this price.
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Just take it easy, and wait. Requires timing.
You want to be a majority shareholder meh? know how to make 14sen? hehehe?

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QUOTE(omione @ Jun 8 2009, 07:21 PM)
"Sin Ka" or not, like think about it logically. The couple cannot let the price move up to quickly. Because they want the price to look good during AGM. So we all know sooner or later the price will go up. Question of time. If is goes down to 5 sen, back up your truck.
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If we all make profit, how we go celebrate ar?


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QUOTE(AutumnFoliage @ Jun 8 2009, 09:42 PM)
everyone learning~~  smile.gif
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Learning is a general word.
Learning to fall, is still a general word.
So define fall, and the lesson learnt should be what?


Added on June 8, 2009, 9:50 pmToday everything is negative, US & Europe.

http://finance.yahoo.com/

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post Jun 9 2009, 12:02 AM

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Shares need to be up and down in order to make profit.
For compugates, it would be up, as nothing really bad happen in the company.

Compugates price will fall?
If the price falls below 0.075, the couple need to have a lot of work, and reschedule their plan, calculations in order to buy back. Or else, as I say previosly why not just blow it out 0.0000001 straight away, and why putting the 1 share here and 1 share there at certain level?

The nature of shares that holds value below RM1.00 is easy to goreng one compares to RM10.00 per share.

The lesson here is who goreng the shares.

You maybe greed to wait and purchase the price below RM0.075, however you are fear also if it won't go up. So basically what do you want, Omione?

Maybank could be your choice, won't collapse one.

* Tips : If the compugates prices gets lower, the couple have the trouble to buy back, because the price so low, that every people (big people) could just buy the shares and take over the company, an easy way without setting a Berhad company, customer based, supplier based, also got. Since no bad news mar... *

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post Jun 9 2009, 08:18 AM

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If you are interested, just stay and watch lor.
Basically everybody can see from the chart, compare to previous year.
It's the low.

So if you are rewrite the sentense, your meaning would ask us whether it is the "lowest" instead of it is the "low" ?

Buying shares must have own opinion, if you don't have, then you follow news lor. if news don't have, just buy other shares.

* I'm based on the 2006 - 2009 the pattern of the couple playing, please check the changes of shareholdings. *

I also say if the price is lower than 0.075, the couple need to do..... read my post above...

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Today S-Q, higher a bit already. But not necessarily will up.

Kind of slow. so with other counters.
Enjoy waiting.

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QUOTE(MoonRider @ Jun 9 2009, 09:07 AM)
advice for those who want to purchase this stocks .. think twice before you buy ... all the discussion here are mainly individual opinion ..

i have bought the share at 0.08 and planning to q at 0.075 to purchase more ..
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Just inform us if you are able to buy at that price, during what hour.
Thanks.


Added on June 9, 2009, 9:16 amTry to watch KNM, since compugates is idle.

5000 down more than 5000 up. Taking profit. The up doesn't support by the 5000 transaction but individual < 1000.

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anyone able to get 0.075?
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jun 9 2009, 09:52 PM)
we will know on 16th AGM day biggrin.gif
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I think is on 19th.

COMPUGATES HOLDINGS BERHAD ("THE COMPANY)
- NOTICE OF THE FOURTH ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING ("AGM")
The Board of Directors of the Company wishes to inform that the Fourth AGM of
the Company will be held at Tropicana Golf & Country Resort, 47410 Petaling
Jaya, Selangor Darul Ehsan on Friday, 19 June 2009 at 10.00 a.m.
A copy of the Notice of the Fourth AGM is attached.
This announcement is dated 27 May 2009.
You are advised to read the entire contents of the announcement or attachment.
To read the entire contents of the announcement or attachment, please access
the Bursa website at http://www.bursamalaysia.com .


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