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post May 21 2009, 08:08 PM

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post May 22 2009, 09:46 AM

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Guys,

why when I shoot with flash on, the subject will be normal/good enough but the background will be like underexpose or dark?

I understand that people also using flash when shooting directly under the sun to fill in un-expose part of the subject. Mine, when I shoot, either background is dark or the subject is overexpose.

this picture for example, the subject and background have the same level of exposure:

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Any tips guys?

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post May 22 2009, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(shootkk @ May 22 2009, 10:04 AM)
Wow! After all this time I thought that you would at least know the answer to your question.  doh.gif  sweat.gif

Wokeh... here goes:

When you fire a flash, your camera meters your exposure of the subject based on the flash. Thus this will result in a properly exposed subject while disregarding the ambient exposure. Normally this ends up with the subject exposed properly but the background is dark - typical PnS flash usage scenario ler...

If you meter for the ambient and expose for that, the flash will then overexpose your subject.

So, when using flash you need to remember to balance for the ambient light. That's what sifu albnok always tells people. Don't just crank up your flash's power.

To solve the background dark issue, trying using a higher ISO and/or slower shutter speed to capture more of the ambient light. Your flash will expose the subject properly but let the slower shutter speed take in more light for the ambient and you will get a more balanced exposure overall.

When shooting under sunlight, adjust the flash power so that if will fill in the shadows but not overexpose the subject.

Like I always say - Get back to the basics and learn about lighting and aperture and shutter speed and what not and you will be able to figure all these things out by yourself. Fancy gears will do nuts to teach you things like these. No matter how many L or CZ or G lenses you have you will not be able to solve issues like this if you don't know your basics.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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1st of all, thank you for your info. wink.gif.

btw, i did try to put higher iso, slower shutter, adjust aperture but the thing turn out the other way around. sad.gif. maybe i need more practical training .. i tried but most of the time within limited time period .. wink.gif.. I will try again later .. Thank you for your info bro..

really appreciate if any1 else want to gv a comment or two .. wink.gif . thanks guys .
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post May 22 2009, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(albnok @ May 22 2009, 11:20 AM)
Seng_Kiat, there are usually THREE situations. Turn off your flash and set the exposure in manual mode so the meter says 0. This is the same as Slow Sync Flash mode really.

A) subject and background are equally lit

You don't need to use flash for this, but you can, to add a bit of fill light to bring out the catchlights in the eyes. You can use TTL for this.

B) subject is darker, background is brighter (sunsets, subjects in shade)

Use a flash on camera in TTL.

C) subject is brighter, background is darker (spotlights, gigs)

Use wireless flash, point the flash at the background and set it to TTL. Use a fast enough shutter speed to make sure the subject is not overexposed.

hanafinoor, should be RM8500 or so. Not sure if it still comes with the VG-C90AM and 4 GB CF card or not. Do let us know, I haven't asked around recently!
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Ok. I will try again later bro. smile.gif. Thank you for info. wink.gif

QUOTE(soulfly @ May 22 2009, 11:21 AM)
I believe that particular shot was done with a large light source (ie: strobes with softbox)

Anyway, I always take manual exposure approach for this kind of picture (look at my photo samples at http://flickr.com/fakhrainms)

Set your camera to maximum sync speed (1/250s on a700/900 without SS, 1/160s on a100/200/300/350 without SS).
Adjust the ISO and aperture to get the background exposure that you want.
Set your flash to direct flash and fire. Most of the time bounce mode will not give enough power output to overpower the ambient. You can use TTL, but I personally prefer manual power adjustment on the flash.

Remember, you can't use faster shutter speed if you want your flash to sync. HSS mode is useless in this matter due to low power output the flash will produce. And if you use higher ISO, you will risk blowing the whole exposure.
If your setting forces you to use small aperture like F16 or so, most probably the small portable flash is not enough. That is why many professional photographers work with big lights outdoor.

A large silver reflector will make things easier I suppose. Heheh.
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Ok. Noted. Will do. wink.gif. Thanks bro.
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post May 22 2009, 08:29 PM

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thread mati d ... all go TT? .. sad.gif ..
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post May 23 2009, 07:16 AM

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QUOTE(luzias @ May 23 2009, 02:01 AM)
hi all...currently im using A200....planning to upgrade to A700..how much it will cost to buy new A700 now?? any shop can recommended??
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street price is RM3.2k .. wink.gif .. i dont have recommended shop but dont by at tarita if you do not know the price .. they will kill you slowly .. tongue.gif ..
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post May 23 2009, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(dingenius3 @ May 23 2009, 08:57 PM)
last but not least... testing 40D with COBRAAAA!! coz albnok got that hotshoe converter (alpha-to-iso)
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post May 24 2009, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(accab @ May 24 2009, 02:10 PM)
hello alpha user.
i just wan ask 1 question about lense.
i wan buy 75-300 i see at 1st page sony price 450-550.
and minolta 1k+++ with big beercan.
wat means big beercan?someone pliss explain to me.
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it is called beercan because its physically look like a can of beer .. tongue.gif ..
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post May 24 2009, 04:17 PM

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guys,

any event for today? damn boring .. sad.gif ..
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post May 25 2009, 10:20 AM

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Hi buddy,

Morning. I am bored early morning today, so, i found something to shoot in front of my house:

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as usual, C&C are much much appreciated. Thank you guys. wink.gif.
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post May 25 2009, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(mcline_007 @ May 25 2009, 10:24 AM)
guys a noob qtion pls help me. icon_question.gif
i wan to add my flickr signature at tis forum but wen i copy and paste the HTML, the tag not appearing. rclxub.gif
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dude,

right click the image and get the location of image. then do this:

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[url=http://www.flickr.com/PutYourLinkHere][img]PASTE LOCATION U COPY HERE[/img][/url]

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post May 25 2009, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(Sp00kY @ May 25 2009, 10:37 AM)
mcline_007: got your cam adi?

seng_kiat: getting used to ur baby?
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slowly get better dude.. wink.gif ..

QUOTE(ryzan76 @ May 25 2009, 11:07 AM)
seng kiat...i got same like u...wait my turnnnnnnnnn brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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yup bro ... u r my sifu .. i cant fight you .. wink.gif .. but i am waiting bro

QUOTE(Sp00kY @ May 25 2009, 11:16 AM)
seng_kiat: #4 seems to have a theme...the rest are just random shots..
i realized u put i am small as the title, perhaps u can add in some big-@ss flower behind ur smaller flower to create that story?
.just my 2 cents.

moo: WTH! I can strobe wei...bird park this weekend..anyone?
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QUOTE(Sp00kY @ May 25 2009, 12:06 PM)
its ok..we learn together smile.gif..so this week apa macam?
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this week i cannot make it .. 1st i will be in hometown and second, i dont have tele lens to be a long range shooter .. tongue.gif ..
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QUOTE(Sp00kY @ May 25 2009, 12:11 PM)
75300 super LONGwei...because he has 50mm,1750 only:)...
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yup .. pity me .. i cant go event or join u guys shooting .. sad.gif ..

guys, why dont find a model or 2, then we shoot potrait .. i more into portrait .. biggrin.gif .. but please not on this weekend .. biggrin.gif ..
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anybody going to mu vs malaysia on 18 july? ..

i bought the ticket but it stated no photography/video is allowed during the event .. damn!! .. sad.gif .. last time I went to chelshit vs malaysia also same and ended up with that pak guard did not allowed me to bring camera or else i need to throw the batteries (last time with my canon S3IS and threw 4 energizer batteries). sad.gif.

i met with an uncle the day i bought my canon 40D and he said he was selamba bringing his gears on his neck with tele lens. damn it!! .. i dont know how to bring it in .. sad.gif ..

put in my gf handbag, does it sound good? .. biggrin.gif ..


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post Jun 2 2009, 06:59 AM

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Morning Guys,

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C&C is much much appreciated. wink.gif. Thank you.
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post Jun 2 2009, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(nevland @ Jun 2 2009, 08:34 AM)
seng_kiat, you are from Kuala Besut??
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yup .. smile.gif .. but i am working in cyberjaya .. my parents still in kuala besut ..

why bro? .. r u from besut as well?
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albnok, thanks for the comment.

How about these:
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post Jun 2 2009, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(Sp00kY @ Jun 2 2009, 04:19 PM)
cjlai: i know that girl
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whos that bro? . ask for a photoshoot session la ... tongue.gif ..
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QUOTE(Sp00kY @ Jun 2 2009, 05:44 PM)
seng_kiat: mine posting ur EXIF? what aperture do u use and handheld or tripod?
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check it in my flickr bro .. there are EXIF information in each of them .. i never remove it .. smile.gif .. i lazy to check and post it here .. tongue.gif ..

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