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YuNGSeNG
post May 13 2009, 11:05 PM

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Guys, can give me some idea ? Tomorrow is T+3 for my KNM and Kinstel. However, I can only pick either 1.

If I pick up KNM, I will sell Kinstel at whatever price tomorrow. I assume Kinstel price drop tomorrow, so Kinstel is contra loss. However, KNM still make profit for me.

If I pick up Kinstel, I will sell KNM and contra gain for KNM. But I have to see how Kinstel performance in SHORT term, I only play short term.

Any idea ?
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post May 13 2009, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(CKC (Sense-Maker) @ May 13 2009, 11:29 PM)
Kinstel has perwaja issue. Kinstel is loss-making. Steel prices have dropped by 60% but raw material prices have not as much. The only saving grace is its NTA of RM1 plus. At 90sen, Kinstel is not attractive.
That is my view.

For KNM, it is slightly better because of the possible upside till RM1 to RM1.20 if oil touches USD60 to 70.

The relative return now is not attractive compared to 2 to 3 months ago. But of course, when market is hot, people do not think of % of return. People will go crazy over just 10%.

KNM is much better. The choice is not tough.
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Ok, actually I'm also think to cut loss at Kinstel, assume the price drop tomorrow. (Since kinstel drop today, if kinstel up tomorrow so good tongue.gif )
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post May 13 2009, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(CKC (Sense-Maker) @ May 13 2009, 11:35 PM)
KNM came down and now going up in very much a controlled fashion. You do not need an expert to tell you the same short-sellers might now be pushing it up from  35 sen to the current price. The timing coincides with global recovery. Who else could be doing that so masterfully but the biggest of international shark. When price plunged, the volume was huge daily too.

Now that it has 84.5sen, the relative return has narrowed but the absolute upside remains there.
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CKC, mind to simple explain what is the issue between Perwaja and Kinstel as you mentioned ?
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post May 15 2009, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(taikin @ May 14 2009, 11:48 PM)
haha bought some today to play
but only 1 lot (x100)
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Today only bought 1 lot ?

Let said 100 units X 0.820 = RM82

Commission at least RM12.

Why playing like that ?
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post May 15 2009, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(teewan @ May 15 2009, 11:41 AM)
Alamak.... 250K buy how many lots only???

Added on May 15, 2009, 11:41 am250M ok lah
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You really play margin already ?
For medium term or long term ?
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post May 15 2009, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(teewan @ May 15 2009, 04:01 PM)
Go long term sure won't lose lor...
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Yeap rclxms.gif
How is your margin account ? Use already ?
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post May 19 2009, 09:59 AM

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Suddently this thread so quiet already ? Guys, long time no see biggrin.gif
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post May 19 2009, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(okw0809 @ May 19 2009, 10:00 AM)
Ya, long time....where hv been....I hope u were not scared off by recent lao-sai...
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Just have somethings to do tongue.gif
Recently lao-sai really a bit scare
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post May 19 2009, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(teewan @ May 19 2009, 10:07 AM)
Scared then should come here more often!

Added on May 19, 2009, 10:07 amWe lao sai together
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Ya, Honda will give me confidence tongue.gif
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post May 19 2009, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(taikin @ May 19 2009, 10:11 AM)
i believe the volume is not in for KNM yet haha
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Hopefully rclxms.gif
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post May 19 2009, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(v-honda @ May 19 2009, 11:51 AM)
why alway can check one meh ? where to check huh?
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I'm wonder where to check also ? Anyone can enlighten ?
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post May 19 2009, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(okw0809 @ May 19 2009, 01:37 PM)
I proposed this because I'll stay at this hotel. So don't need to drive...ha!!

Anywhere is fine with me.... most important is more members attend, the better it is....
Since I am not kl guy, KL guys plz feel free to propose.....
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I'm still 50/50. Ya, hope more people will come !
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post May 19 2009, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(teewan @ May 19 2009, 01:57 PM)
Wish is RM30
Hope is RM10
Think is RM1.50

Added on May 19, 2009, 1:59 pmI think to come up with 1 TP is impossible lah...
U need to constantly update your TP, according to the market sentiment, commodity price, business environment, etc etc.

So, I can only tell u right now is not yet reach my TP lah, unless today go above RM0.90, then I will surely sai lang sell...
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Wish your "wish" come true ! rclxm9.gif

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post May 19 2009, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(teewan @ May 19 2009, 02:04 PM)
Wawawa what happen?

KNM at 0.78 queues now...

Added on May 19, 2009, 2:06 pmHaiya someone playing with the queues

Added on May 19, 2009, 2:06 pmI mean some sharks
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They just play play, now back to 0.795 already
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post May 19 2009, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(okw0809 @ May 19 2009, 02:13 PM)
50/50? Is it due to transport again? R u in Puchong, Subang around those areas?
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Ya, I'm from Ampang. Normally I only familiar with the road in Ampang or KL abit.
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post May 19 2009, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(okw0809 @ May 19 2009, 02:22 PM)
If transport is a problem, I can send u back after dinner...but sorry cannot pick u up bcos I don't know how to go there  tongue.gif
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Wah ! Good ! rclxms.gif
Emm, now have to see the venue already, where oh ?
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post May 19 2009, 02:50 PM

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Where to see oil price real time ?

http://www.oil-price.net/ seem not real time right ?
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post May 19 2009, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(v-honda @ May 19 2009, 03:33 PM)
can cuba this
http://www.livecharts.co.uk/MarketCharts/crude.php
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Thanks notworthy.gif
This one seem not bad smile.gif
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post May 19 2009, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(teewan @ May 19 2009, 03:19 PM)
No power liao

Added on May 19, 2009, 3:19 pmGood news is oil is at USD 60.38!

Added on May 19, 2009, 3:24 pmNow USD 60.45!
DJ is +21

Added on May 19, 2009, 3:31 pmWah got show or not leh?
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No show leh, teewan help push up a bit lah tongue.gif
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post May 19 2009, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(v-honda @ May 19 2009, 03:39 PM)
hehehe ... can exchange some xxx site to me if you want ...  drool.gif
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XXX ? brows.gif

Added on May 19, 2009, 3:49 pmOil price drop a bit already

This post has been edited by YuNGSeNG: May 19 2009, 03:49 PM
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