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chiam dar siang
post May 17 2009, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(gundamseedw @ May 17 2009, 04:19 PM)
today sunday no office la
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mayb tomolo we can receive the offering letter..... rclxm9.gif
TSnelsonyap48
post May 17 2009, 05:08 PM

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Lets hope so.......we ll get our letters this week........yeppee
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post May 17 2009, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(yi7117 @ May 17 2009, 03:10 PM)
Getting scholarship isn't about who is rich or poor it's giving to students that excel in their studies as a reward.
TO be fair you have to treat all the good students equally regardless of their family background.

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i echo ur opinion.
scholarships should not be based on family background.
if lets say a person's dad is quite well off, earning like rm 8k per month.
but that dad is a very stingy person who wants his son to go the IPTA route.
but his son wants to go overseas to study in his dream uni.
he scores like 12A1 only to see ah kau , who scored less, get it.
there goes his dream. while ah kau waves goodbye from his airplane window

or, the quintessential father-forced-me-to-take-up-medicine situation,
where the son is threatened by his father to take up medicine , or risk having to fund his studies himself.
so, scholarships come in handy to those who wish to defy daddy's wishes.

after all, the income can be faked.
who bothers to check all the income and shit?
juz say you're living with ur granny and ur parents live far away.
then granny earns like rm 300 per month.
done . scholarship's urs.

IMO, for those who are poor, there are always loans, bursaries etc.
if people are really poor, shouldnt they be contented with studying locally with a bond?
damn... then make the JPA scholarship only for local studies and bond them kao kao, see whether anyone will be fighting for it anymore.

sorry if tis is off topic,. but im not gonna post here again. going to b very busy

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chrishung
post May 17 2009, 08:43 PM

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Sure you have to treat all good students equally but when you have limited resources how do you divide the cake? By kicking out rich students or students who scored less As? The point is rich students can still get an education without a scholarship while poor students cannot. If the gov have unlimited budget I'm sure they will gladly reward all students regardless of family income.
chiam dar siang
post May 17 2009, 09:40 PM

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very anxious which ipts they will send me to....
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post May 17 2009, 10:19 PM

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can i post in here too??i dont apply for JPA,its MARA and i managed to get it. nod.gif

for those who managed to go oversea,y are you so eager to study there??i just want to hear out your opinion flex.gif
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post May 17 2009, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(chrishung @ May 17 2009, 08:43 PM)
Sure you have to treat all good students equally but when you have limited resources how do you divide the cake? By kicking out rich students or students who scored less As? The point is rich students can still get an education without a scholarship while poor students cannot. If the gov have unlimited budget I'm sure they will gladly reward all students regardless of family income.
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Limited resources of course you got to give the chance to those that excels 1st. What's the point of giving a scholarship to a 7As person but then ditching the 13As person because he is rich. Will you divide a larger portion of your cake to those fat and eat alot but less productive people or those that are hardworking and productive? Don't always use the word POOR as an excuse you should be more privileged in getting a scholarship to oversea. The rich aren't aliens they are also part of the community they deserved the government's reward too.
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post May 18 2009, 09:19 AM

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Will the probability of getting offered the scholarship increase if some1 joined national service?
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post May 18 2009, 10:30 AM

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Anyone from Catholic High School, PJ received the scholarship??
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post May 18 2009, 10:41 AM

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guys

i want to know

JPA overseas scholarship offer law course ?

if they do,how long will we need to work with gomen ? biggrin.gif
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post May 18 2009, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(yi7117 @ May 17 2009, 10:13 AM)
Limited resources of course you got to give the chance to those that excels 1st. What's the point of giving a scholarship to a 7As person but then ditching the 13As person because he is rich. Will you divide a larger portion of your cake to those fat and eat alot but less productive people or those that are hardworking and productive? Don't always use the word POOR as an excuse you should be more privileged in getting a scholarship to oversea. The rich aren't aliens they are also part of the community they deserved the government's reward too.
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Doh! Of course you give to the poor who actually excels in their study. But then in your argument you set the standard of "excellent" achievement as having as many As as possible. If I took only 9 subjects and get all As would I be a "lousy" student compared to the ones who got a gazillion As? My argument is that if there are no poor students that are really deserving then by all means give to the rich ones.

Tell me then if you have 50+50 rich and poor student but only scholarship for 50, how do you give out the scholarship assuming they get the same number of As?

And how can you categorize the poor as fat and eating a lot when in reality they dont eat much? Do you realize that the fact that they are poor may be the reason why some couldn't achieve academically or take as many subjects as the rich?

Gee, maybe Uncle Sam should ditch out some stimulus fund to Berkshire Hathaway coz you know, they are so successful and they deserve reward. Or maybe governments should reduce income tax for the rich coz you know......they deserve it. doh.gif
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post May 18 2009, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(QD_buyer @ May 18 2009, 10:41 AM)
guys

i want to know

JPA overseas scholarship offer law course ?

if they do,how long will we need to work with gomen ? biggrin.gif
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For overseas law course, yea. my friend got it.

About the bond i m not sure yet........still waiting for the letter for details.


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QUOTE(chrishung @ May 18 2009, 10:56 AM)
Doh! Of course you give to the poor who actually excels in their study. But then in your argument you set the standard of "excellent" achievement as having as many As as possible. If I took only 9 subjects and get all As would I be a "lousy" student compared to the ones who got a gazillion As? My argument is that if there are no poor students that are really deserving then by all means give to the rich ones.

Tell me then if you have 50+50 rich and poor student but only scholarship for 50, how do you give out the scholarship assuming they get the same number of As?

And how can you categorize the poor as fat and eating a lot when in reality they dont eat much? Do you realize that the fact that they are poor may be the reason why some couldn't achieve academically or take as many subjects as the rich?

Gee, maybe Uncle Sam should ditch out some stimulus fund to Berkshire Hathaway coz you know, they are so successful and they deserve reward. Or maybe governments should reduce income tax for the rich coz you know......they deserve it.  doh.gif
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rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif Cheers man!

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post May 18 2009, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(chrishung @ May 18 2009, 10:56 AM)
Doh! Of course you give to the poor who actually excels in their study. But then in your argument you set the standard of "excellent" achievement as having as many As as possible. If I took only 9 subjects and get all As would I be a "lousy" student compared to the ones who got a gazillion As? My argument is that if there are no poor students that are really deserving then by all means give to the rich ones.

Tell me then if you have 50+50 rich and poor student but only scholarship for 50, how do you give out the scholarship assuming they get the same number of As?

And how can you categorize the poor as fat and eating a lot when in reality they dont eat much? Do you realize that the fact that they are poor may be the reason why some couldn't achieve academically or take as many subjects as the rich?

Gee, maybe Uncle Sam should ditch out some stimulus fund to Berkshire Hathaway coz you know, they are so successful and they deserve reward. Or maybe governments should reduce income tax for the rich coz you know......they deserve it.  doh.gif
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I didn't CATEGORIZE the poor as fat I am giving an example to the CAKE thingy that you mentioned.
I didn't set a BENCHMARK of excellence as stated I made an example of comparison.
I didn't say the government has to reduce or increase any shit tax on them what I am stressing out is totally educational scholarship matters. What has taxing rich people to do with scholarships?
Read what I wrote again in previous post. You have problem understanding what I wrote. Others can understand so I believe it's not my problem.

What I am trying to explain is that students that excel in academic results should be treated equally regardless of their family background. 50+50 even though results are same Interview & Co-co activities have to be taken into consideration too. Of course results come 1st then evaluate other criteria that I have mentioned.

Your statement is saying like RICH PEOPLE should not be given care. Yes the fact is that they have all the money in the world to do what they want but then who are you to judge whether they deserve this or that? Others also can say the poor don't deserve the help why shouldn't they work for it?

You have to learn to see the whole scenario without being interfered by MONEY & POLITICS. My 2cents not to provoke any fire or whatsoever controversy. Cheerz!! smile.gif
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post May 18 2009, 05:47 PM

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anybody got the offer letter yet?
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post May 18 2009, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(trailblazer9 @ May 18 2009, 05:47 PM)
anybody got the offer letter yet?
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No for me, i dont think so fast. Gov do things you know lah........
chiam dar siang
post May 18 2009, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(trailblazer9 @ May 18 2009, 05:47 PM)
anybody got the offer letter yet?
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me not yet oso... doh.gif


Added on May 19, 2009, 4:39 pmhello......got any news?? this thread is dying...lol

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lazyguy91
post May 19 2009, 10:27 PM

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anyone gets the letter by now?
i heard that those letters will reach at least after 2 weeks, is that real??
chiam dar siang
post May 19 2009, 10:54 PM

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nope here, do anyone heard bout jpa dinner before?
TSnelsonyap48
post May 19 2009, 11:00 PM

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What dinner? No for me too.........
chiam dar siang
post May 19 2009, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(nelsonyap48 @ May 19 2009, 11:00 PM)
What dinner? No for me too.........
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some sort of jpa scholar gathering, ever heard of? rclxub.gif

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