QUOTE(David_Brent @ May 18 2009, 10:09 PM)
Those counters should rise then - especially KINSTEL. The market has already costed Q1 losses in.
Seems like in the current market P/L is not important. Hartalega posted 250% increase in profits and dropped like a stone today....

AMMB dropped also despite creditable results...
There's an unseen hand behind a lot of these stocks IMHO.
Added on May 18, 2009, 10:11 pmyes. well said. the market is looking forward 6 months....

Not actually, when seeing profit or loss, you need to see where the profit and loss come from. If losses by steel company largely due to inventory writedown in value, it is still an ok result, as it doesn't affect the cashflow, but if it is operational losses then need to worry.
Among the banking sector, AMMB is the most vulnerable to NPL as everyone knows its loan quality is not that good. At current economy situation, NPL will only have one way to go, ie. up.
P/L result cannot be seen from its surface, you need to dig more into it to see the clearer picture, while market is forwards looking as always.
Having said that, short term wise market has been blind by bullishness and goreng, it can go anywhere.
But over the long term it is the financial result of individual company dictate the footing of their share price.
QUOTE(naz_b_85 @ May 18 2009, 10:37 PM)
careful not to entice the newbies too much. Some of them maybe so excited that they think another similar rally is in the cards. I'm not saying there is no possibility but I am concern on the ability of follow through. Dow can be fickle, 100+ points up today and 100+ points down tomorrow. It would be catastrophic for newbies to trade in this type of market. Be careful newbies, this may not be the beginning on another such rally as the recent one so for the ones eager to jump in quick tomorrow and chase, Dow can be fickle!
Market is clueless and directionless as if we said economy is recovering and booming, the answer is no, we have not yet reached that stage, we are in less bad situation, whatever data still show less bad and stabilise, it has not (or yet) turn into positive territory.
If we said economy is deteoriating, the answer is still no, worst situation is passed (seem like).
So market is waiting.
QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 18 2009, 10:48 PM)
did klci experience limit up before, lol?
yup, there was once, a limit down during march 2008, composite dropped more than 100 pts on that morning!!

Last time KLSE didn't impose limit down or up on KLCI like current 10%, only individual stock 30%. If there was, then we will had once of limit up

, KLCI surged more than 10% once before, during 1998, when KLCI plunged severely time and rebound, I can remember it was during CNY (if not mistaken), saw so many counters limit up across the board especially blue chips somemore.
But there was not something to be happy of because market has loss 70% before having this kind of rebounding or limit up.