Arjuna was in Bhagavad Gita.

Tapi yg to "Suria" tak jadi.

Ia asal dari Bahasa Sanskrit !!

Megat is a hereditary title given to male descendants of the ancient Royal House of Pagar Ruyung. Its Minangkabau pronouncation is 'Magek' - derived from the word 'Maha Gaek' which means 'Great One'.

The female members of the family are given the hereditary title Puteri. Its Minangkabau pronouncation is 'Puti' which obviously means Princess.

The Megats and the Puteris are royalty by birth. However, it is a common practice to name a child with the titles Megat or Puteri whenever the mother is of Royal Blood (Raja or Tengku)and the father is a commoner. This is due to the fact that in Minangkabau tradition, the status of one's child will depend on their parents. As for Royalties, marrying a commoner is strictly forbidden. Hence, the seniority of the respective parent's families will determine the child's royal status.

The idea of having a Megat or a Puteri from a Royal mother and a commoner father was likely based on the lineage of the famous pioneer Megat in the Malay World - Megat Terawis. Megat Terawis was the first Bendahara of Perak and was known by the title Orang Kaya Bendahara Paduka Raja. He was the son of the Daulat Yang Dipertuan Pagar Ruyung. His descendants were holders of the Bendaharaship of Perak. One of his descendants, Megat Menjanas (Orang Kaya Bendahara Paduka Seri Maharaja), married Raja Shah Alam Sayong - a daughter of Sultan Muzaffar Shah II of Perak.

Obviously his descendants used the titles Megat and Puteri. Coincidently, the mother was a daughter of a Perak ruler, people have generalised the rule that for individuals with a Royal mother and a commoner father, have the right to use the titles Megat and Puteri for their children.

It should be highlighted that the original usage of Megat and Puteri are strictly for the descendants of the Royal Pagar Ruyung lineage. The descendants of Megat Terawis the First Bendahara of Perak still (to this very day) use the titles Megat and Puteri for their names and their children's.

Some of the prominent members of the Megat Terawis family are:

Dato' Seri Dr Megat Khas Bin Megat Omar
Dato' Megat Yunus Bin Megat Mohd Isa
Dato' Megat Othman Bin Megat Mohd Ali
Dato' Megat Mahmud Bin Megat Ismail
Dato' Seri Megat Jaafar Bin Megat Yunus
Tan Sri Dato' Megat Zaharuddin Bin Megat Mohd Nor
Tan Sri Megat Junid Bin Megat Ayub
Datuk Dr Megat Burhainuddin Bin Megat Abdul Rahman
Dato' Seri Megat Najmuddin Bin Megat Khas
Dato' Megat Mohamed Abdul Wahab Bin Megat Abu Bakar
Megat Zaharuddin Bin Megat Shamsudin
Megat Abdullah Rafaie Bin Megat Marzuki
Megat Mohamad Mentaha Bin Megat Alias

Nama orang-orang Melayu ni ada tiga peringkat :-

Peringkat Pertama
Zaman purba sebelum kedatangan Islam. Contoh nama ; Melati, Kuntum, Melur, Komeng, dan lain-lain. Zaman tu nyer nama lebih kepada gelaran atau orang akan associate seorang individual tu dengan subjek tertentu. Nama-nama macam Melati dan Melur diambil dari bunga ... mungkin individu tu cantik macam bunga. Zaman ni tak ada BIN atau BINTI (BINTE actually).

Peringkat Kedua
Kedatangan Islam ... atau lebih tepat lagi kedatangan saudagar-saudagar dari India dan Pakistan. Wujudlah nama macam Jamalludin, Isarudin ... semua yang suffix ada DIN. Pengaruh Arab mungkin juga ada kat sini ... coz nama Arab Jordan, Syria, dsb ada DIN/BIN/BEN.

Peringkat Ketiga
Zaman sekarang ... cantuman nama bapak dan ibu. Sesetengah tu tak ada langsung makna di sebalik nama yang diberi. Kalau ada pun, tapi cantuman tu dah tak ada makna ... dah tak juxtaposed (place side by side).

Mosly surname & name of Malay came from Arab word or meaning.

Like mine.

abu bakar ali

since those are islamic/arabic naming style, how about non-muslim malay's name?

same wif hindu indian ?

wat is surname, what is last name, and what is " your name"?

I still have difficulties understanding the name "Abu Bakar"

Abu is ash.

Bakar is burn.

Doesn't it kinda like calling the son "burning ash" when naming him "Abu Bakar" ??

Aren't those more like muslim name then malay name?

there's a reason why we dont translate malay/arabic/islamic names into english.

abubakar in arabic means noble/nobility.

where is Meor?

burning ash.
cool what?

Thank you.

I stayed in Middle East couple of years, I understand it's original meaning.

But what I am asking is in the Malay context ---> How in the world Malays naming their sons "Abu Bakar" with full knowledge that it means "Burning Ash" in Bahasa Melayu?

Please don't get me wrong, I mean no racial or whatever. This is a NAME thread, and we are talking about names.

My curiosity lies squarely on what I post above, without any added meaning (hinted or otherwise).

This post has been edited by convivencia: May 12 2009, 08:11 PM

they're using the names in context with the arabic meaning, not english. most of the malays are aware of the malay-english meaning, but it's not necessarily a bad sounding/meaning name.

similarly if a chinese name with english sounding words doesnt actually carry the english/malay meaning, right? i mean, who in the right mind would give their children's name "Yu Wang Kerr" or "Tong Sam Pah" (i totally made those up) .

ppl with name abu bakar often got nickname 'burn' and like it...

I think it's a shame the Malays prefer to use Arabic names and not retain their original traditional Malay names.

It is because we adpted from Islam way.

Like if non-Muslim etc: Chinese or Indian convert to islam,they will change their name simmiliar with their old names meaning but toa arabic word.

I suggest you to read The Malay Dilemma by Tun Mahathir (1970s version) to understand the Malay psyche.

yes but many muslims who are not malay retain at least some part of their original ethnic name, but for the malays, its like the history has been wiped clean.