And will Naza bring in Kia Ceed too?
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I'm eagerly waiting for this beauty in Bolehland...
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Rumour is that Forte might come in 3rd quarter of the year and heard pricing might be around 75K.
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how far is the rumour true?
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QUOTE(dARKaNGEl @ May 11 2009, 12:47 AM) Rumour is that Forte might come in 3rd quarter of the year and heard pricing might be around 75K. Do you think that Kia Forte will outsales City and Vios?As for Kia Ceed, not sure. I haven't seen any Ceed in S'pore too.  |
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QUOTE(musclemass @ May 11 2009, 12:50 AM) how far is the rumour true? read it from another forum. so my guess is just as good as your guessfor the launch period, it could be quite true since our neighbour already launched it in February and I already saw a few on their roads. In SG, the pricing is around SGD4xKm which is lower than a Persona there selling around SGD52K, Vios and City also around SGD5xK. So pricing wise, it might also be true as rumoured to be around 75K. |
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it ll sure kacau city and vios for sure...
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European styling from ex-Audi designer at lower price...
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ May 11 2009, 01:58 AM) European styling from ex-Audi designer at lower price... very good pointWith good after sales service, this car will take sales from Vios and City |
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QUOTE(ryan man @ May 11 2009, 01:01 AM) Do you think that Kia Forte will outsales City and Vios? that wouldn't happen coz malaysian's perception of honda and toyota brand is superior to that of KIA. that is why KIA is going for a bargain at lower price with good specs. If you see in US, kia and hyundai is picking up fast. even magazines are saying that korean's time is coming, with them having the technology, price competitiveness and now some good designs coming out.I can't comment much about the interior quality, but the exterior looks of the Forte is really nice in real life. Just need to do some simple mod like lower the ride, put a diffuser, put front bumper lip and side skirtings, then tint the windows black a bit. Even tough it may not outsell vios or city, but definitely it eat up their market share. btw, forte is actually meant to compete C segment cars like Civic and Altis in US. So spec wise, surely better than vios and city Added on May 11, 2009, 2:31 am QUOTE(-YellowSn0w- @ May 11 2009, 02:04 AM) got pictures ? Go google, search for KIA Cerato Forte or just KIA Forte. many pictures and even videos on youtube. Don't be so lazy, go searchThis post has been edited by dARKaNGEl: May 11 2009, 02:31 AM |
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ May 11 2009, 01:58 AM) European styling from ex-Audi designer at lower price... Can't agreed more..With good after sales service, this car will take sales from Vios and City Last week i went to the Kia's showroom.. 1 of the salesman said that this car will be launch in Malaysia around Jun and July.. In terms of exterior and safety, i'll bet my penny on forte as Koreans are well known by its safety.. Realized or not, Koreans car are tougher than those Jap car... Added on May 11, 2009, 3:21 am QUOTE(-YellowSn0w- @ May 11 2009, 02:04 AM) got pictures ? Here's the picture... Lazybumps.This post has been edited by ryan man: May 11 2009, 03:21 AM |
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Those who are interested, pls goto Kia showrooms and bug the salesmen on when it will be available, then they'll know it's desirable and in demand, and hopefully bring it in ASAP. haha!
It's already available in SG, but so far, I haven't seen any yet here in JB. I agree with PaulTan that it's the 1st Korean model that looks desirable and attractive!  |
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I bet Naza will bring the Forte for less than 80k. Still a C segment car underneath the price of the current B segment champions like vios and city it will be a good seller here.
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2nd hand value will be terrible as always and bad fc
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QUOTE(hazremi @ May 11 2009, 09:07 AM) 2nd hand value will be terrible as always and bad fc haz,your point on the resale value may hold some water but about the fc, i think you are just saying it without knowing anything. is it because of the old kia cars that made u say such a thing? if yes, then i agree. my old kia sephia was terrible with fc but it is not the case with the newer spectra5. modern kia models have very good fc. please don't say unsubstantiated stuff. |
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There's also a Forte Hybrid with lithium polymer batteries (first in the world to use it). About 21.5 km/litres. Can any Japanese car beat that?
For safety, the Forte has 63% high tensile steel and should get a 5-Star NCAP rating. The design is by Peter Schreyer. As Audi´s chief designer between 1994 and 2002, he was credited with revamping the Audi brand with a number of revolutionary new auto designs. From 2002 to 2005, he was the chief designer for Volkswagen and since 2005 has been the head of advanced design for the Volkswagen group, earning critical acclaim for several crucial product launches, featuring a range of unique design concepts. His outstanding creative work has led to many national and international awards, including the Design Award of the Federal Republic of Germany and the world famous red dot award. He has also won the German National Design Award several times for helping to propel the German auto industry in new directions with his sporty and innovative designs. PETER SCHREYER DESIGN TRACK RECORD Volkswagen Design / Projects: Concept Cars: * Concept 1 (New Beetle) * Concept C (Eos) * Concept R (Roadster) * Concept T (Buggy) * GX 3 (Three Wheeler) * Microbus * Ragster Passenger Cars: * Golf IV & Variant * Jetta * Passat B 5 & Variant * Lupo & Seat Arosa * New Beetle * Golf V & Golf Plus * Golf GTI & Golf R32 * Jetta * Passat B 6 & Variant * Eos * Compact SUV Commercial Vehicles: * LT 2 * LT 3 * Constellation (24 ton truck) Racing: * Race Touareg Audi Design / Projects: Concept Cars: * Quattro Spider * Audi TT & AUDI TTS * AL 2 & AL 2 open end * Steppenwolf * Allroad Quattro * Avantissimo * Rosemeyer Passenger Cars: * Audi A2 * Audi A3 & A3 Sportsback * Audi A4 & A4 Avant + Audi Cabrio * Audi A6 & A6 Avant + Allroad * Audi A8 * Audi TT & Audi TT Roadster Racing: * R8 racing car LeMans Lamborghini Design / Projects: * Murcielago * Gallardo Of course, when Kia is mentioned they'll always bring up 'RESALE VALUE' but conveniently leave it out when Alfa Romeo, Benz, BMW, Audi, Fiat, etc. are mentioned.  Malaysia Boleh!! Forget it lah lowpro, better if these guys DON'T buy Forte, better get a City/Vios/Civic/Altis and they can feel they've 'made it' in life and have excellent resale value.This post has been edited by BikerVoodoo: May 11 2009, 09:43 AM |
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what's the fc of the 1.6 forte? u hv info on this? at least the guys n gals here can c the comparison with malaysia's "favourite" models. is there a 1.8 forte? i know there is a 2.0. any idea if this is coming in? |
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QUOTE(hazremi @ May 11 2009, 09:07 AM) 2nd hand value will be terrible as always and bad fc saying something or making statement like that is pretty much reflect your kind of brain cell. just last week my company brought in 2 used waja, december of 2007, how much? 25k only. 3 Gen2 December of 2007 too, how much? 23k. Tell me which car is not loosing money? i am trying to say is, you are stupid for not knowing what is liability and what is investment. A vehicle is a liability. |
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QUOTE(pixma_dude @ May 11 2009, 10:27 AM) saying something or making statement like that is pretty much reflect your kind of brain cell. just last week my company brought in 2 used waja, december of 2007, how much? 25k only. 3 Gen2 December of 2007 too, how much? 23k. Tell me which car is not loosing money? i am trying to say is, you are stupid for not knowing what is liability and what is investment. A vehicle is a liability. |
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4 bad points.
a. Poor resale value after 3 years. b. Expensive spare parts. c. Lousy fuel economy. d. The name itself is bad enough. KIA - Killed In Action This post has been edited by acbc: May 11 2009, 10:40 AM |
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QUOTE(acbc @ May 11 2009, 10:39 AM) 4 bad points. a. Poor resale value after 3 years. - you don't know yet, you can't tell the future.a. Poor resale value after 3 years. b. Expensive spare parts. c. Lousy fuel economy. d. The name itself is bad enough. KIA - Killed In Action b. Expensive spare parts. - you don't know yet, its not even launched yet. c. Lousy fuel economy. - you don't own the car (i'm assuming you're in malaysia). so, you don't know yet. d. The name itself is bad enough. - this maybe is acceptable  This post has been edited by lowpro: May 11 2009, 10:46 AM |
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QUOTE(pixma_dude @ May 11 2009, 10:27 AM) saying something or making statement like that is pretty much reflect your kind of brain cell. just last week my company brought in 2 used waja, december of 2007, how much? 25k only. 3 Gen2 December of 2007 too, how much? 23k. can be investment.if u rent it out and make money,or use for business.the forte looks decent enuff.i just want to know how it drivesTell me which car is not loosing money? i am trying to say is, you are stupid for not knowing what is liability and what is investment. A vehicle is a liability. |
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On the contrary, my company did a survey of Spectra5, Optima and Sportage spare parts - fast moving, medium and accident repair compared to Japanese equivalents. The Kias were CHEAPER!
The Optima's GEMA engine is used in the Mitsubishi Lancer, Jeep Compass, Peugeot 4007, etc. but NO ONE talks about FC when other brands are used. No point convincing the Kia haters. Let them buy Japanese makes and be happy with their 'Resale Value' and PERCEIVED 'lower priced' spares! For them, perception and speculation is more important than doing research. |
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QUOTE(acbc @ May 11 2009, 10:39 AM) 4 bad points. haih..typical malaysian mentality..cant be change...org pemikiran sempit susah mau ubah..a. Poor resale value after 3 years. b. Expensive spare parts. c. Lousy fuel economy. d. The name itself is bad enough. KIA - Killed In Action this the kia forte review by sgcarmart http://www.sgcarmart.com/news/review.php?AID=96 This post has been edited by newmaster: May 11 2009, 11:16 AM |
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this car really good, but not sure about the engine spec and fuel consumption, as for the maintenance, i believe every car is almost the same, depends on your knowledge on cars, not just simply go in to a workshop say i want to do XXkm service...
and also what type of transmission this car use? 72k sounds tempting, but vios J still a bit cheaper, but if it is me i will choose this car over vios and city, since the new city are more expensive  |
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QUOTE(amduser @ May 11 2009, 12:35 PM) and also what type of transmission this car use? Vios and City are just B segment car, whereas Forte is a C segment car, meaning same class as Civic/ Corolla/ Sylphy/Lancer.....from value point of view, it is affordable and bargain...72k sounds tempting, but vios J still a bit cheaper, but if it is me i will choose this car over vios and city, since the new city are more expensive In Singapore, Kia Forte is offered with 4 speed automatic transmission... Other markets, 5 speed automatic transmission also provided |
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wow, just read the review .... can be that cheap meh ? got 6 disc cd changer and auto climate aircond wor ....
well, really good value for money, just buy it and don't think of selling it will be the right mind. It is a very nice car .... |
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I think they're quite serious about it as they've brought some local journos to Namyang R&D Centre to drive the Forte and Koup.
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QUOTE(hazremi @ May 11 2009, 09:07 AM) 2nd hand value will be terrible as always and bad fc Are u sure?Please don't think that all Koreans have bad FC.. This car is powered by CVVT engine, which is quite reliable and in par with VVTI and V-Tec Added on May 11, 2009, 1:56 pm QUOTE(lowpro @ May 11 2009, 09:52 AM) biker, There's a coupe version of this car named KIA KOUP..what's the fc of the 1.6 forte? u hv info on this? at least the guys n gals here can c the comparison with malaysia's "favourite" models. is there a 1.8 forte? i know there is a 2.0. any idea if this is coming in? From what i heard, this coupe version is powered by 2.0 litre engine and the closest rivals are Hyundai Coupe 2.0. This post has been edited by ryan man: May 11 2009, 01:56 PM |
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http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/07...tions-released/
This report says about 14.1 km/l for the 1.6L Automatic. Thats around Honda Jazz level I think. I remember driving a Jazz once with similar FC recorded on the dash. Kia will definitely save the 2.0L for the Koup for ASEAN region. I believe the rated 1.6 AT figure is 7.1 litres per 100km. Very impressive!  But I really like the Forte. I've joined the 'Kia Forte' fan page on Facebook even. This post has been edited by BikerVoodoo: May 11 2009, 03:11 PM |
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QUOTE(michael_ckh @ May 11 2009, 01:33 PM) wow, just read the review .... can be that cheap meh ? got 6 disc cd changer and auto climate aircond wor .... everything will be different when in come to our shore, probably many things will be taken outwell, really good value for money, just buy it and don't think of selling it will be the right mind. It is a very nice car .... |
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On the contrary I think they will have a high grade version with lots of specs put in. The latest Optima high grade for example has almost all specs the V6 Optima has - stability control, Infinity audio system, subwoofer, electric seats, in dash 6CD changer, motorised seats, Nappa leather + suede upholstery, 17" wheels, Michelin made in France tyres, etc.
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rm75k for the 1.6 or 2.0?
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I seriously doubt they can achieve that sort of price for the 1.6L Sedan, as it's a Mazda3/Civic/Corolla competitor. I'd say high 80s to high 90s minimum. Must be pricier than the Latio, at least. Kia ain't cheap no more.
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should be for the 1.6 since 2.0 was planned for the coupe version.
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122hp and 156nm...for 1.6...not bad...but very typical sedan with sporty look
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I had a Kia Spectra once... Yeah, it was alright... Til the part where I almost died in it... F*cking thing's brakes weren't working! Almost smashed into a Mercedes in front of me... God damn Spectra... Good thing its gone now...
Now, the Forte and the Koup looks very nice... Kia's moving up in the automotive world... As long as the car dont try to kill you, its all good... Now, for some actual information for you... Actual Information For You There ya go... Too long to read, couldn't be f*cked... Might come in handy for what your looking for... |
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QUOTE(almattitude_v1 @ May 11 2009, 05:34 PM) I had a Kia Spectra once... Yeah, it was alright... Til the part where I almost died in it... F*cking thing's brakes weren't working! Almost smashed into a Mercedes in front of me... God damn Spectra... Good thing its gone now... the 2.4L and 2.0L are the real deal Now, the Forte and the Koup looks very nice... Kia's moving up in the automotive world... As long as the car dont try to kill you, its all good... Now, for some actual information for you... Actual Information For You There ya go... Too long to read, couldn't be f*cked... Might come in handy for what your looking for...  This post has been edited by xshiro: May 11 2009, 05:38 PM |
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QUOTE(BikerVoodoo @ May 11 2009, 05:23 PM) I seriously doubt they can achieve that sort of price for the 1.6L Sedan, as it's a Mazda3/Civic/Corolla competitor. I'd say high 80s to high 90s minimum. Must be pricier than the Latio, at least. Kia ain't cheap no more. Forte should be in the range of a Hyundai Elantra. So if 2.0 expect it to be around 93K, if 1.6 expect it to be mid 70s to 80k.This post has been edited by killdavid: May 11 2009, 06:46 PM |
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But for the Forte they need to pay more for Peter Schreyer's design. Hehehe.
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I read somewhere that naza will be bringing kia soul, forte coupe on 2nd half to msia...but din mention abt forte cerato... can't wait to c this car in msia!!! |
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QUOTE(BikerVoodoo @ May 11 2009, 05:23 PM) I seriously doubt they can achieve that sort of price for the 1.6L Sedan, as it's a Mazda3/Civic/Corolla competitor. I'd say high 80s to high 90s minimum. Must be pricier than the Latio, at least. Kia ain't cheap no more. I thought this Forte is in the same category with City and Vios?  |
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QUOTE(ryan man @ May 11 2009, 09:49 PM) I thought this Forte is in the same category with City and Vios? in term of price range, this is between city and vios |
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in terms of price, it should fall around city/vios but you will be getting a civic/altis sized car for vios/city money. good? it will probably have very high specifications too... probably even more than the japanese counterparts.
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i guess this car will be around 90k...
prob with this car - sparepart and 2nd hand value... from what i see...fc will be much better but definitely not as good as vios |
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QUOTE(hazremi @ May 12 2009, 09:36 AM) i guess this car will be around 90k... If its a hot model, eventually they will hav loads of spare parts later on. hehe prob with this car - sparepart and 2nd hand value... from what i see...fc will be much better but definitely not as good as vios  |
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May 12 2009, 11:45 AM
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Its the turning point for KIA, with their youthful and more sporty models such like the soul and the forte, all developed courtesy from the outstanding kia ceed.
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HKS did a Genesis Coupe. Hopefully HKS can play a part in the aftermarket development of the Koup as well.
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last month saw a red s'pore registered kia forte at sg besi-puchong h'way near kinrara...wat can i say...look milessssss better in real flesh!
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http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/category/kia-forte/ <--- More stories here.
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kia and hyundai both use gamma engine?
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The red colour Forte looks good for me..
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QUOTE(ryan man @ May 12 2009, 06:02 PM) The red colour Forte looks good for me.. for the same money as the vios or city? its gotta be much better... which i think it will be Way better than the dugong and city... |
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How about Kia Soul?
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The Forte Koup uses the GEMA Theta II engine, of which you can view more info here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Engine...turing_Alliance ... it's shared with Mitsubishi and Chrysler!
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I believe the 1.6 Forte will uses back the Beta 2 engine which powered the previous gen of cerato (not avail in mysia) while the 2.0 will use the GEMA engine.
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QUOTE(BikerVoodoo @ May 13 2009, 02:04 PM) The Forte Koup uses the GEMA Theta II engine, of which you can view more info here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Engine...turing_Alliance ... it's shared with Mitsubishi and Chrysler! what u mean gema theta II engine...i thought theta II engine is different from gema engine produced from the alliance? confusedThis post has been edited by xshiro: May 13 2009, 05:23 PM |
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"Theta II" is the hyundai/kia name for the GEMA engine like 4b11,4b12 to mitsubishi...
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QUOTE  Reader acesDSI spotted this Kia Forte with JPJ plates roaming the streets of Batu 3 Shah Alam heading towards Section 20 Shah Alam. It looks like the good-looking Kia Forte is going to be launched soon, and sources in Naza say it’s most likely to be offered in CKD locally assembled form. Although we cannot really see the badge on the car because of the resolution of the photos, the photographer said the car had Naza badges on, so maybe what we’re going to get is a Naza Forte instead of a Kia Forte.  There are positive and negative points about that, firstly having a Naza badge on is likely to give the company more bargaining power with duties resulting in a lower price, which is ultimately beneficial for consumers if a simple badge swap (that could even be supplier by showrooms) will “fix” it. Secondly it will stop potential customers from waiting for Naza Kia to Naza-ize a Kia Forte in anticipation of further price drops. If the Naza Forte is to become a proper bread and butter sedan for Naza Kia it has to replace the Spectra in the product range so expect it to come with a 1.6 liter engine, with larger engines reserved for the Kia Koup 2-door coupe which I tested in South Korea recently. http://paultan.org/archives/2009/05/14/new...d-in-shah-alam/ Small engine and locally assembled, suddenly no more appetite already, haih... |
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May 14 2009, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE(rcracer @ May 14 2009, 02:54 PM) http://paultan.org/archives/2009/05/14/new...d-in-shah-alam/ i felt bit dissapointed also becos saw this car with sporty look but small engine...but back to reality, this 1.6L suppose to compete with vios or city...then its quite good also if cheaperSmall engine and locally assembled, suddenly no more appetite already, haih... 2.0/2.4L is for koup...using Gema engine... This post has been edited by xshiro: May 14 2009, 03:33 PM |
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May 14 2009, 04:07 PM
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To replace the Spectra means it's going to be in RM80k range.
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May 15 2009, 03:05 AM
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May 15 2009, 03:14 AM
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And it is looking real good too ... hopefully they do price it lower than Vios or City considering that Msians are still skeptical on Kias'. A lower price would definitely help out as besides National cars we have another option.
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May 15 2009, 07:46 AM
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No matter how good this car is gonna be,I can bet my nuts that in no way that this car is going to ever touch CITY and VIOS sales.No way.
M'sians are still too fond of Japanese makes and this one will definately be a good seller but will not affect city n vios sales. |
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May 15 2009, 09:22 AM
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i think the price will be around 75k to 80k, which is similar to spectra5 when it was launched. i don't think will be below 70k or else waja & persona will be much affected.
the car size is almost similar to the current civic, so why not this car rather than the smaller vios/city? This post has been edited by atah: May 15 2009, 09:24 AM |
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May 15 2009, 09:44 AM
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Malaysian mindset is very much brand oriented and not product oriented. For each guy here saying Kia is on the right path of improvement, 10 guys out there are saying korean cars guzzle fuel, expensive parts, no power, etc ... and they worship japanese brands.
My prediction is, at best case the sales volume would be something like the current Hyundai Elantra unless Naza gives an attractive price. This post has been edited by killdavid: May 15 2009, 09:45 AM |
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QUOTE(killdavid @ May 15 2009, 09:44 AM) Malaysian mindset is very much brand oriented and not product oriented. For each guy here saying Kia is on the right path of improvement, 10 guys out there are saying korean cars guzzle fuel, expensive parts, no power, etc ... and they worship japanese brands. stupid people with stupid perception, especially those elderly, they dont want to change and dont want to be changed. i bet most of them never drive a korea car before, all is just listen to others, well, at least some of us also listen from friends and family...My prediction is, at best case the sales volume would be something like the current Hyundai Elantra unless Naza gives an attractive price. as long as not japanese car then the car no good, japanese car have the best quality, ya, so-called "best" quality, korea car no good, car made by communist japanese car save fuel, VVTI and VTEC very good, very powerful, you want to compare a 1.5 VVTI with 102hp on engine horsepower with a 185hp engine? not at the same range lar  japanese car spare part cheap and very easy to get, genuine some more, most of them being without knowing themself being conned, as long as the sales is over certain numbers, they will bring in more spare part, and why do we need original when 3rd party better with the same price? unfortunately, there are many people who dont like to change the way they think just like what i said above, i personally encountered many this kind of people, mostly elderly, when some same age range with me also got....  |
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May 15 2009, 10:29 AM
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spted in s alam.. ths is real guud.. but beter naza sells it..as naza brand. cheaper.
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May 15 2009, 10:39 AM
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ya, when ppl heard about kia or hyundai, 1st thing they will say is high fc lah, no value lah, expensive spare parts lah... etc....
but in fact they never drive one before, just heard from friend's friend, cousin brother's son's friend, etc... so i guess this is the challenge that naza and sime darby have to overcome before they can make good business. |
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May 15 2009, 10:44 AM
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saw this car yesterday in putrajaya. tried to catch up to get a look at the front but there's too much cars during lunchtime. the design looks cool anyway.
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May 15 2009, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(blackpc @ May 15 2009, 10:44 AM) saw this car yesterday in putrajaya. tried to catch up to get a look at the front but there's too much cars during lunchtime. the design looks cool anyway. did u see naza logo or not? |
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I believe it will be rebatch as naza logo rather than kia. That will decrease the car's value despite the forte is a much better car compare to the B segment models like vios or city.
Furthermore with Naza's poor reputation on aftersales on its models like sutra, I not putting much hopes on this Naza Forte, although I would like to see some improvement. Still people should not discard such a good value for money sedan here. |
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QUOTE(atah @ May 15 2009, 10:39 AM) ya, when ppl heard about kia or hyundai, 1st thing they will say is high fc lah, no value lah, expensive spare parts lah... etc.... exactly, unless everyone start to say that kia forte fc very good, can reach 20km/literbut in fact they never drive one before, just heard from friend's friend, cousin brother's son's friend, etc... so i guess this is the challenge that naza and sime darby have to overcome before they can make good business. or the car is using VVTI or i-VTEC technology  |
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May 15 2009, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(amduser @ May 15 2009, 12:08 PM) exactly, unless everyone start to say that kia forte fc very good, can reach 20km/liter i think some hyundai engine got cvvt.or the car is using VVTI or i-VTEC technology This post has been edited by xshiro: May 15 2009, 12:25 PM |
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Well, if it has a Kia badge, Malaysians will complain too expensive. Slap on local badge and bring down, they'll complain about the badge. Willing to pay RM10-20k more for the Kia badge? A Forte is still a Forte.
Put on 2.0L they'll say too big. Put in a 1.6L DOHC CVVT with 124PS output and they'll say too small (but no complaints with 1.5Ls in the Vios/City). Quality - nothing specific but just speculation. They've not inspected CKD New Optima, Sportage or Spectra5, no knowledge of how to benchmark. But as always, speculation is top priority for Malaysians! Have they compared Optima side by side with an Accord or Camry? Observed panel gaps, etc.? http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/category/kia-forte/ This post has been edited by BikerVoodoo: May 15 2009, 01:09 PM |
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I think they should offer a few variants but obviously, a bigger c.c. like 2.0 is preferred (if I were to buy).
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May 15 2009, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE(amduser @ May 15 2009, 12:08 PM) exactly, unless everyone start to say that kia forte fc very good, can reach 20km/liter current models of kia and hyundai already using cvvt, which is equivalent to vvti/ivtec. most likely forte will be using the same engine as spectra5, 1.6 cvvt timing chain.or the car is using VVTI or i-VTEC technology it will not be possible to have a 1.3 ton car with 1.6 engine to achieve 20km/l, then those ppl need to look for kelisa or viva or maybe savvy. i'll be happy for 12km/l for urban driving. This post has been edited by atah: May 15 2009, 01:33 PM |
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QUOTE(atah @ May 15 2009, 01:32 PM) current models of kia and hyundai already using cvvt, which is equivalent to vvti/ivtec. most likely forte will be using the same engine as spectra5, 1.6 cvvt timing chain. if come out 1.6 ,sorry no way.it will not be possible to have a 1.3 ton car with 1.6 engine to achieve 20km/l, then those ppl need to look for kelisa or viva or maybe savvy. i'll be happy for 12km/l for urban driving. the looks already very good. |
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May 15 2009, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(dantck @ May 15 2009, 01:39 PM) if come out 1.6 ,sorry no way. ya, 2.0 will be more suitable for this car but it will then affect the optima, unless they are bringing in the optima 2.4the looks already very good. but with 124hp, that's not too bad as it's already one of the highest for 1.6 engines This post has been edited by atah: May 15 2009, 01:43 PM |
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May 15 2009, 02:08 PM
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1.6 is really a disappoinment...... 2.0 would be a perfect buy......
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May 15 2009, 02:10 PM
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Most likely this Forte is powered by 1.6 litre cvvt engine..
And maybe the 2.0litre engine will be available in the KOUP (coupe version). I realize some of u guys here expect to have a 2.0 litre engine with the same price range with City and Dugong. In ur dreams dude.. |
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May 15 2009, 02:13 PM
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But if it comes out as 2.0, the price will be alot different. By that time ppl will compare it against Civic and Altis instead of Vios/City. But heck if its 90k-100k with 2.0 its still cheaper den the Japs.
Koup shud be 2.0 if im not mistaken. This post has been edited by Vinci777: May 15 2009, 02:14 PM |
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Looking a numerous pictures there seem to be a few different front bumper design. Some are quite sporty and nice while the default one looks plain.
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May 15 2009, 02:18 PM
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Honda Shivik headlights + Honda Shitti rear lights. If they made the body rounder...
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May 15 2009, 02:22 PM
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The square body is similar to Lancer type and the tail light is similar in audi a4 (opposite direction). hehe
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May 15 2009, 02:25 PM
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Guess the so called world reknowned designer's just a marketing gadget he probably dug the design out from his recycle bin.
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May 15 2009, 03:00 PM
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if you read paultan review there were 2.0 and 2.4 forte tested...koup and the other one has 4 door...but dont expect it to be around 70k
u have many options...dont be so disappointed not so sure naza will bring the 2.0 and 2.4 though This post has been edited by xshiro: May 15 2009, 03:03 PM |
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May 15 2009, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE(xshiro @ May 15 2009, 03:00 PM) if you read paultan review there were 2.0 and 2.4 forte tested...koup and the other one has 4 door...but dont expect it to be around 70k even if it is 85-95k for the 2.0, i would buy........ maybe comparing the price with sylphy then.......... of course, it is still cheap. 2.0 is definitely the perfect 1...... 1.6 is too low for a c segment caru have many options...dont be so disappointed not so sure naza will bring the 2.0 and 2.4 though |
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May 15 2009, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(ryan man @ May 15 2009, 02:10 PM) Most likely this Forte is powered by 1.6 litre cvvt engine.. if the government ddid tax the car then for sure can get around that price for 2.0 And maybe the 2.0litre engine will be available in the KOUP (coupe version). I realize some of u guys here expect to have a 2.0 litre engine with the same price range with City and Dugong. In ur dreams dude..  if it is around RM70k, then for sure it is only around 1.6cc, 2.0cc should be 100k and above. |
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May 15 2009, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(advocado @ May 15 2009, 02:25 PM) Guess the so called world reknowned designer's just a marketing gadget he probably dug the design out from his recycle bin. in design we can only have straight lines or curves, round or square. so combination is used, and some of them will look similar. as long as the overall shape looks nice and aerodynamic is good, who cares who copy who... |
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QUOTE(amduser @ May 15 2009, 03:19 PM) if the government ddid tax the car then for sure can get around that price for 2.0 2.0cc Hundai Elantar baru RM93,000, without diskaun. This price oso so few buy.if it is around RM70k, then for sure it is only around 1.6cc, 2.0cc should be 100k and above. How can u say Kai Forte 2.0cc = 100k abouve. Who will buy then? 1.6cc RM70 sure ppl buy... then few month down the road, Poton Honda Toyota will make big noise and force price up... |
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May 15 2009, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(atah @ May 15 2009, 01:42 PM) ya, 2.0 will be more suitable for this car but it will then affect the optima, unless they are bringing in the optima 2.4 campro cps 125bhpbut with 124hp, that's not too bad as it's already one of the highest for 1.6 engines |
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May 15 2009, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(Pulltea88 @ May 15 2009, 04:15 PM) 2.0cc Hundai Elantar baru RM93,000, without diskaun. This price oso so few buy. compare the features inside lar bro..How can u say Kai Forte 2.0cc = 100k abouve. Who will buy then? 1.6cc RM70 sure ppl buy... then few month down the road, Poton Honda Toyota will make big noise and force price up... |
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May 15 2009, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(dantck @ May 15 2009, 04:25 PM) campro cps 125bhp -deleted-This post has been edited by atah: May 16 2009, 11:00 AM |
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May 15 2009, 05:49 PM
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Hope it has Manual version.
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May 15 2009, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE(atah @ May 15 2009, 04:38 PM) 125 only for exora. waja & gen2 only 121 sure or not?  |
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QUOTE(advocado @ May 15 2009, 02:25 PM) Guess the so called world reknowned designer's just a marketing gadget he probably dug the design out from his recycle bin. At least it doesn't look bland like the Toyota Vios...The car design line at least looks more refined, dynamic and certainly sleek unlike bloated Vios front... |
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May 15 2009, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE(atah @ May 15 2009, 04:38 PM) 125 only for exora. waja & gen2 only 121 lol wht source is that. |
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May 15 2009, 07:46 PM
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Hyundai brand in mysia is seem going into oblivion. KahBinatng and Oriental Holdings has been consolidated with Sime Darby, meaning all Hyundai cars will be marketed and distributed by Sime Darby.
The fate for sedan models like accent, sonata and elantra is remain a question here. I saw a few Kah Bintang showrooms in PJ has been closed down since. |
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May 15 2009, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ May 15 2009, 07:35 PM) At least it doesn't look bland like the Toyota Vios... i agree. ppl say copy there and here. but as the result it looks not too aggressive but great. Eurasian i would say The car design line at least looks more refined, dynamic and certainly sleek unlike bloated Vios front...  This post has been edited by xshiro: May 15 2009, 09:01 PM |
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QUOTE(xshiro @ May 15 2009, 09:00 PM) i agree. ppl say copy there and here. but as the result it looks not too aggressive but great. Eurasian i would say Once people had the mindset of Korean cars are inferior than Japanese car, people will stick with that mindset, no matter how good Korean car is...In this case, the design is hardly called as "copy", similiarities, yes, because this is a mainstream car, what can you expect from a mainstream car.... Again, the design is an accomplished one, with sleek lines and knowing that, the design is penned by someone who is famous for designed the first generation Audi TT, enough to describe his accomplishment... |
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May 15 2009, 09:46 PM
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if this called as copy, then how about those wajalution and wiralution?
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May 15 2009, 10:00 PM
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If they bring in the Hyundai Veracruz and Equus, I wonder what will happen.
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May 15 2009, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE(ShinAsakura @ May 15 2009, 10:00 PM) If they bring in the Hyundai Veracruz and Equus, I wonder what will happen. Hyundai Equus not gonna beat Bmw and Merc in Bolehland considering its price and Brand..Majority people in bolehland thinks that Korean's car sux.. (Typical mindset) They prefer BMW and MERC becoz these cars will make them more elegant.. |
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May 15 2009, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE(ShinAsakura @ May 15 2009, 10:00 PM) If they bring in the Hyundai Veracruz and Equus, I wonder what will happen. bring in kia soul also |
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May 15 2009, 10:28 PM
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QUOTE(xshiro @ May 15 2009, 10:26 PM) bring in kia soul also Yep.. Kia Soul rocks.. |
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May 15 2009, 10:30 PM
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QUOTE(ryan man @ May 15 2009, 10:28 PM) Yep.. then ppl say kia soul copy myvi tailights Kia Soul rocks..  |
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May 15 2009, 10:33 PM
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Whatever Korean's car manufacturer did, typical people with typical mindset will say that Koreans are copycat...
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QUOTE(ryan man @ May 15 2009, 10:33 PM) Whatever Korean's car manufacturer did, typical people with typical mindset will say that Koreans are copycat... Hard to change their mindset...Whatever it is, i felt Korean cars really has improved over time |
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QUOTE(ryan man @ May 15 2009, 10:28 PM) Yep.. some people might pronounce it kiasu Kia Soul rocks.. kia forte really a nice car, i wish i can own one of this, but only in my dream.... |
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May 16 2009, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE(xshiro @ May 15 2009, 05:50 PM) sure or not? sorry, my mistake |
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QUOTE(xshiro @ May 15 2009, 11:43 AM) did u see naza logo or not? yes it comes with NAZA logo. can clearly see at the trunk. |
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ May 15 2009, 10:56 PM) Hard to change their mindset... one thing never changed till today is the bad resale valueWhatever it is, i felt Korean cars really has improved over time |
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May 16 2009, 12:45 PM
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but it depends on how do u define the 'resale value'.
if u look at the amount, then it's similar if not better than other makes. |
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QUOTE(xshiro @ May 15 2009, 09:00 PM) i agree. ppl say copy there and here. but as the result it looks not too aggressive but great. Eurasian i would say eurasian = honda accord euro honda accord = asian euro = european styling therefore it looks eurasian LOLS, go google latest accord euro picture |
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QUOTE(dr3w @ May 16 2009, 01:11 PM) eurasian = honda accord euro honda accord = asian euro = european styling therefore it looks eurasian LOLS, go google latest accord euro picture front does looks like civic + accord euro combined |
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Jun 12 2009, 05:37 PM
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Check this out! http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/category/forte-koup/
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QUOTE(BikerVoodoo @ Jun 12 2009, 05:37 PM) QUOTE First possible option is the 2.0L turbo engine that has just recently been applied to the 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe and generates 210 hp while the second one, a 1.6L turbo engine with 175 hp is still waiting to make it’s production premiere. 1.6l turbo engine  |
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Jun 12 2009, 06:28 PM
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i love the US spec of Forte Koup
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Jun 12 2009, 06:31 PM
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I saw a KIa forte at cameron highland.. Nice lor
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QUOTE(ryan man @ May 11 2009, 01:01 AM) Do you think that Kia Forte will outsales City and Vios? Its a good and awesome car.But no way it will touch Vios and City sales.It has terrible 2nd hand value.That one is sure to turn away many prospective buyers. This car is just gonna be like the Ford Focus in Malaysia.Good car,but just not popular with the masses. |
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singapore launch quite long already
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Jun 12 2009, 07:58 PM
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resale value resale value resale value...no other point?ure going to sell ur car after several months izit?
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If you never sell your car, you will never have to worry about residuals. But then again maintenance costs will ligner around. It is a balance between maintenance costs and risidual.
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Jun 12 2009, 06:55 PM) Its a good and awesome car.But no way it will touch Vios and City sales. because there are many typical malaysian with typical mindset, toyota and honda is forever the best for them, if nissan sunny and datsun still in production for sure it will outsale all the car, because old car more "tough" It has terrible 2nd hand value.That one is sure to turn away many prospective buyers. This car is just gonna be like the Ford Focus in Malaysia.Good car,but just not popular with the masses. if i'm going to buy this car, i wont even give a damn on the 2nd hand value and i'll be using this car for at least more than 5 years. |
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QUOTE(bear bear @ Jun 12 2009, 07:44 PM) singapore launch quite long already can someone post the photos here? or the link?i got the photo too thanks alot! |
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can't wait for the kia forte sedan to come in! i think will be selling well in m'sia
there are some minor probs discussed in singapore forum by the owners but the car is damn good looking lol! hope that it'll be priced competitively and i could own one then |
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Jun 13 2009, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE(amduser @ Jun 12 2009, 08:39 PM) because there are many typical malaysian with typical mindset, toyota and honda is forever the best for them, if nissan sunny and datsun still in production for sure it will outsale all the car, because old car more "tough" Fortunately 90% of the masses who actually have the money Dont think like you.Resale value is important in determining whether ppl buy that particular car.if i'm going to buy this car, i wont even give a damn on the 2nd hand value and i'll be using this car for at least more than 5 years. Its not typical M'sian mindset.It just shows to you that ppl analyze and think carefully before they buy. Ppl are wiser and know how to LOSE less money instead of buying something,knowing that you are gonna lose alot of money.Only stupid ppl do that. |
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Jun 13 2009, 11:28 AM
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For those who are lazy to google, nah da pic:
  Can this car make change to Kia's resale value in Malaysia? We wait and see |
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Jun 20 2009, 12:42 AM
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A Kia salesman told me that this car will be available in Malaysia around August...
It will be priced lower than the Vios TRD and City.. Will you'll pick Forte if the Kia Optima2.0 prices (which is commonly used as taxi) are lower than 80k? Now, Kia's are having promotion.. The Kia Optima (not the Novus Spec) is just rm79k... Will people choose Optima instead of Forte consider its engine capacity (2.0) and nicer interior?  This post has been edited by ryan man: Jun 20 2009, 12:46 AM |
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Jun 20 2009, 01:06 AM
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c which 1 engine is newer , kia old engine makan minyak leh, my uncle kia spectra minum petrol leh ...
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Jun 21 2009, 01:32 AM
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Hi, sorry for Joning late;
yes forte is already on sell in SG.. for 4mths and is selling well..very well its FC is very very good 12~13km/l on 1.6A (real life usage) paper showing 14km/l combined.. 1.6 and 2.0 avails us comes with 2.4! Cant beat vios in FC but sure a vios killer inside out. i would say its better than City anytime.. but hey..its a korean brand.. so.. Specs wise, Forte hands down alone with ESC in this price bracket. stock 17" low profile.. 6 airbags for 2.0L offer, cluster instruments.. (aka instant FC etc.. computer).. ipod / usb connector.. and the list continue... Let down being its MDPS, its too light with not much feedback (but was told uk program / firmware is better, not sure though.) and a hydraulic version is available too for lower end model.. yes while being 1.6/124ps its has a very smooth.. engine.. (tested) (US market even gets 5 speed auto) unlike CPS hard to drive nature. no offense.it does has its few bugs from the initials batch (as of this writing), i.e knocking sound over hump, little sound here and there. reliability wise.. in us kia offers 5 yrs / 100k, so i would trust its engine i think. As for the Malaysia version, think boils down to the localized specs that naza / kia AD will want to launch.. if strips bare... then its nothing to shout about.. but for the shape.. its principle designer is from EX-Audi (original TT designer) so.. copying? haaa.. well... Finally, until its confirmed official launch, its anybody guess.. full options forte matches even honda Civic in every aspect.. if not more.. koup hits 5 stars EuroNcap.. waiting for forte to be tested.. haa. for those interested to know more of this forte may try this. http://www.kia-cerato.com/ Cheers!  This post has been edited by Burgerlim: Jun 21 2009, 01:39 AM |
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Jun 21 2009, 01:49 AM
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me wan Forte Koup!!
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Jun 21 2009, 06:15 AM
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QUOTE(quak58 @ Jun 12 2009, 08:36 PM) If you never sell your car, you will never have to worry about residuals. But then again maintenance costs will ligner around. It is a balance between maintenance costs and risidual. that's why the car seen in malaysia are mostly malaysian made and toyota and honda, unlike here where people buy saab, volvo, mazda (mazda3 best seller in australia) |
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Jun 21 2009, 01:16 PM
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Think most people will have that open market value in mind.. not selling is a matter of how long youll use it.. for 10years.. everycar is just about the same.. initial investment saving is better if we are talking about bread and butter (a to b) car here..
of course knowing your car worth better will just makes you feel better driving in it on the road? haa. |
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Jun 21 2009, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE(Burgerlim @ Jun 21 2009, 01:16 PM) Think most people will have that open market value in mind.. not selling is a matter of how long youll use it.. for 10years.. everycar is just about the same.. initial investment saving is better if we are talking about bread and butter (a to b) car here.. it helps when that car finally needs to be sold, why waste unnecessary money?of course knowing your car worth better will just makes you feel better driving in it on the road? haa. |
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Jun 21 2009, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(ryan man @ Jun 20 2009, 12:42 AM) A Kia salesman told me that this car will be available in Malaysia around August... vios TRD is just some pure overpriced rubbish from toyota, and there are many cars cheaper than vios TRD spec.It will be priced lower than the Vios TRD and City.. Will you'll pick Forte if the Kia Optima2.0 prices (which is commonly used as taxi) are lower than 80k? Now, Kia's are having promotion.. The Kia Optima (not the Novus Spec) is just rm79k... Will people choose Optima instead of Forte consider its engine capacity (2.0) and nicer interior? |
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Jun 21 2009, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE(K o m p r 3 s s o r @ Jun 13 2009, 11:28 AM) For those who are lazy to google, nah da pic: Yup, a nice looking car indeed with good specs. Not sure about resale value but one thing is quite certain, the sales figure will not look promising just like all previous Korean models unless the price is below rm70k. Sad.Can this car make change to Kia's resale value in Malaysia? We wait and see |
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Jun 21 2009, 06:18 PM
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kia's resale value has a lot to do with naza's incredible discounts. look at the ria, only 63k now. those who bought it for 100k can't even sell their car
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Jun 21 2009, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(ryan man @ Jun 20 2009, 12:42 AM) A Kia salesman told me that this car will be available in Malaysia around August... Are you sure it's at 79k?It will be priced lower than the Vios TRD and City.. Will you'll pick Forte if the Kia Optima2.0 prices (which is commonly used as taxi) are lower than 80k? Now, Kia's are having promotion.. The Kia Optima (not the Novus Spec) is just rm79k... Will people choose Optima instead of Forte consider its engine capacity (2.0) and nicer interior? |
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Jun 21 2009, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE(eyerule @ Jun 21 2009, 06:18 PM) kia's resale value has a lot to do with naza's incredible discounts. look at the ria, only 63k now. those who bought it for 100k can't even sell their car They are "spoiling" their own name is this country by practicing this ... sigh. |
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Jun 21 2009, 10:28 PM
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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Jun 21 2009, 02:32 PM) it helps when that car finally needs to be sold, why waste unnecessary money? yes... but then if you 1st buy cheap, of course.. you sell cheap too ya? its precisely why waste unnecessary money upfront? Added on June 21, 2009, 10:41 pm QUOTE(ryan man @ Jun 20 2009, 12:42 AM) A Kia salesman told me that this car will be available in Malaysia around August... Optima (AKA magnetis?) has gone thru facelift and new model based on Schreyer lines will be available soon.. It will be priced lower than the Vios TRD and City.. Will you'll pick Forte if the Kia Optima2.0 prices (which is commonly used as taxi) are lower than 80k? Now, Kia's are having promotion.. The Kia Optima (not the Novus Spec) is just rm79k... Will people choose Optima instead of Forte consider its engine capacity (2.0) and nicer interior?  i think its a stock clearing exercise... car prices has a lot to do with the specs bundled as well taxes, duty etc etc.. its not just price that determine the success of a car selling. lets hope msia version of forte will have that balance. This post has been edited by Burgerlim: Jun 21 2009, 10:41 PM |
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Jun 22 2009, 10:51 AM
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just a question, does the 1.6 forte have the same engine as spectra?
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Jun 22 2009, 02:00 PM
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its a re-tuned engine.. (not sure spectra) 124hp unit with very smooth curve.. checkout the website.. bodywise, its from avante.. hyundai with rear suspension changed to torsion beam...
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Jun 22 2009, 03:20 PM
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Will we get 2.0???
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hi, all just to update, Forte secured a 4 stars front impact only! hiaz. but full 5 with side (high end version with curtain airbag) in Ancap rating..
only drawback says it causes serious injuries to driver leg.. Ancap Forte |
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Jun 26 2009, 01:41 AM
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what about euro ncap?
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Jun 26 2009, 06:30 AM
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QUOTE(Burgerlim @ Jun 26 2009, 01:34 AM) hi, all just to update, Forte secured a 4 stars front impact only! hiaz. but full 5 with side (high end version with curtain airbag) in Ancap rating.. That might just deter some potential customers, especially when the Holden Cruze (newer car, similar class, similar price, better looking interior but weird exterior) grabs a 5-star rating. only drawback says it causes serious injuries to driver leg.. Ancap Forte It's a pity for the Forte as it truly looks to be able to break the Japanese dominance in the C-segment, but note that even the popular Honda Civic only scores a 4 and yet it doesn't seem to affect its sales. Let's see what the new Mazda 3 can do... |
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Jun 26 2009, 11:56 AM
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well, certainly no problem to me
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Jun 27 2009, 01:25 AM
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I think its not soo related to us after all since in ANcap / EuroNcap they uses full specs car.. full airbag.. etc..
Forte weak point lies on its steering column and pedals.. its not about the structural elements of the car which is pretty good.. looking from the side impact test. i think forte steering wheel is oversized.. causing little leg room.. however this part is really fixable.. as stated.. a furhter improvement already shows better result however its not shown as its after test.. haa.. looking forward to more test result.. |
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Jul 1 2009, 12:05 AM
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Any news about this car recently?
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Jul 2 2009, 02:43 PM
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just called the SA in klang. they said arriving in august. got 2 models CKD and CBU. prices are rm66k for the CKD and rm76k for the CBU. both are 1.6 models.
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Jul 2 2009, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(skybar @ Jul 2 2009, 02:43 PM) just called the SA in klang. they said arriving in august. got 2 models CKD and CBU. prices are rm66k for the CKD and rm76k for the CBU. both are 1.6 models. any news bout 2.0??? |
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QUOTE(fookeesan @ Jul 2 2009, 02:46 PM) any news bout 2.0??? not sure about the 2.0L. perhaps u can call any of the naza kia branches and share us some info. |
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Jul 2 2009, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(skybar @ Jul 2 2009, 02:43 PM) just called the SA in klang. they said arriving in august. got 2 models CKD and CBU. prices are rm66k for the CKD and rm76k for the CBU. both are 1.6 models. RM66k?! this is seriously cheap, how about the features and accessories? did they removed some to save the cost? |
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Jul 2 2009, 04:11 PM
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I more interested for the CBU. 10K difference is quite acceptable for me.
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QUOTE(amduser @ Jul 2 2009, 03:37 PM) RM66k?! this is seriously cheap, how about the features and accessories? did they removed some to save the cost? as for the difference between the CKD and CBU not confirm yet but the SA assure me the extra 10k u pay is worth every cent. |
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QUOTE(skybar @ Jul 2 2009, 02:43 PM) just called the SA in klang. they said arriving in august. got 2 models CKD and CBU. prices are rm66k for the CKD and rm76k for the CBU. both are 1.6 models. if the CKD offer the same specs as the CBU, then i will go for the RM66k coz i heard Kia CKD model is actually disassemble the bonnets&doors, send it here then reassemble back. They can claim that as CKD model and sell cheaper, it still the same quality with CBU model. |
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Jul 2 2009, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE(skybar @ Jul 2 2009, 04:55 PM) as for the difference between the CKD and CBU not confirm yet but the SA assure me the extra 10k u pay is worth every cent. wow! looks tempting! |
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Jul 2 2009, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(madman.com @ Jul 2 2009, 05:12 PM) if the CKD offer the same specs as the CBU, then i will go for the RM66k i don't think the CKD and CBU will share the same features. perhaps engine and auto tranny same but other accessories eg leather seat, bigger sport rim, auto climate air con will sure lack coz i heard Kia CKD model is actually disassemble the bonnets&doors, send it here then reassemble back. They can claim that as CKD model and sell cheaper, it still the same quality with CBU model. |
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Jul 2 2009, 06:01 PM
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66k seems affordable. nicely priced for a 1.6. hoping 80k for a 2.0
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Jul 2 2009, 06:31 PM
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the SA just replied me the 2.0L will be released next year. no one know what price yet.
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Jul 2 2009, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE(skybar @ Jul 2 2009, 06:31 PM) the SA just replied me the 2.0L will be released next year. no one know what price yet. thanks a lot man! just a good timing...hahamay i ask 2.0 is 2 door or 4 doors?? |
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Jul 3 2009, 03:28 AM
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seriously they did replied to u??!!
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Jul 3 2009, 08:55 AM
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ceed? i thought the spectra5 is the ceed model already??
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Jul 3 2009, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE(fookeesan @ Jul 2 2009, 08:46 PM) thanks a lot man! just a good timing...haha no updates yet whether they will bring in 2 doors or 4may i ask 2.0 is 2 door or 4 doors?? Added on July 3, 2009, 9:28 am QUOTE(haroldz123 @ Jul 3 2009, 03:28 AM) seriously they did replied to u??!! other i din ask becoz i only interested in this forte.what about ceed n sportage? Added on July 3, 2009, 10:05 ami have called to several naza kia dealers to ask them when this model will launch in malaysia and guess what they said this model has arrive in malaysia can be launched anytime. the delay is because they trying to clear the old spectra model as many as possible. This post has been edited by skybar: Jul 3 2009, 10:05 AM |
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QUOTE(skybar @ Jul 3 2009, 09:27 AM) no updates yet whether they will bring in 2 doors or 4 thanks a lot skybar!! Added on July 3, 2009, 9:28 am other i din ask becoz i only interested in this forte. Added on July 3, 2009, 10:05 ami have called to several naza kia dealers to ask them when this model will launch in malaysia and guess what they said this model has arrive in malaysia can be launched anytime. the delay is because they trying to clear the old spectra model as many as possible. now will just wait for the launch of 1.6....i will go n check out... but will definitely wait for 2.0...... cant wait! |
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i just came back from naza kia found out that naza will not release the 2.0L becoz next year they will launch kia optima replacement. but this 1.6L they said most likely will be launched b4 merdeka.
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Jul 3 2009, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(skybar @ Jul 3 2009, 02:07 PM) i just came back from naza kia found out that naza will not release the 2.0L becoz next year they will launch kia optima replacement. but this 1.6L they said most likely will be launched b4 merdeka. oh no!  sigh............ now have to look for replacement.....  |
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Jul 3 2009, 05:33 PM
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They got say anything about Kia Soul ????
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QUOTE(madman.com @ Jul 3 2009, 05:33 PM) They got say anything about Kia Soul ???? dun think naza will launch this model this year. |
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Jul 4 2009, 12:48 PM
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wah.. 66K is really a bargain...
just pray its not a strips down version aka EX? think maybe the CBU units refers to SX variant.. |
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Jul 4 2009, 06:37 PM
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all the prices are just estimation from the salesman. but he promise the CBU unit won't exceed rm80k.
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Jul 4 2009, 08:31 PM
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Saw 2 Forte today. both s'pore plate
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Jul 4 2009, 09:12 PM
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Coupe is 2 door 1, right ? practical meh ?
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Jul 4 2009, 10:54 PM
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2 doors version of forte is call KOUP... its out long ago..before forte
try google a bit.. awarded car design too...  Added on July 4, 2009, 11:07 pmToyota (Vios) should worry about this.. but unless our perception about MIK (made in korea) change! that is.. haa.. funny that is in SG this car even threatening Altis.. range (almost the same price) but its not even close here.. haaa This post has been edited by Burgerlim: Jul 4 2009, 11:07 PM |
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QUOTE(skybar @ Jul 4 2009, 10:54 PM) i just came back from naza kia found out that naza will not release the 2.0L becoz next year they will launch kia optima replacement. but this 1.6L they said most likely will be launched b4 merdeka. does that mean naza will not be bringing this, at all? or much later in the future?QUOTE(Burgerlim @ Jul 4 2009, 10:54 PM) Toyota (Vios) should worry about this.. but unless our perception about MIK (made in korea) change! that is.. haa.. says alot about malaysian sentiment and mentalityfunny that is in SG this car even threatening Altis.. range (almost the same price) but its not even close here.. haaa |
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Jul 4 2009, 11:57 PM
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not sure whether when will release the forte 2.0Lin m'sia. i am looking forward to the 1.6L launching see whether it can perform better than vios/city
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Jul 6 2009, 11:54 PM
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hmm... 66k is a great price...
support the underdog... Added on July 7, 2009, 12:01 am QUOTE(eyerule @ Jun 21 2009, 06:18 PM) kia's resale value has a lot to do with naza's incredible discounts. look at the ria, only 63k now. those who bought it for 100k can't even sell their car can check with u where did u see the promo ah?63k for a new Ria? This post has been edited by hueyseng84: Jul 7 2009, 12:01 AM |
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QUOTE(Burgerlim @ Jul 4 2009, 10:54 PM) 2 doors version of forte is call KOUP... its out long ago..before forte The Koup is not officially available on the roads yet. And to be honest, apart from aesthetics I don't think the Koup has much improvement over the Forte. It's pretty much the same engine and has the same interior design, but I suppose it's another option for those who want something different from a family sedan. try google a bit.. awarded car design too... Added on July 4, 2009, 11:07 pmToyota (Vios) should worry about this.. but unless our perception about MIK (made in korea) change! that is.. haa.. funny that is in SG this car even threatening Altis.. range (almost the same price) but its not even close here.. haaa Almost every review online or in car magazines for the Forte resulted in thumbs up. Yet it's worth mentioning that all of them pointed out the same disadvantages, i.e. 4 speed auto tranny / jerky 5 speed manual box, hard interior plastics, relatively dated dash and console design, light steering, and 4-star ANCAP. I'm not sure about the prices in other countries, but in Australia the fully-kitted SLi is the best package you can get for your money although some may argue that the new Mazda3 offers a better drive with just a slightly higher price (27-28K). Speaking of which, the SLi is around 25-26KAUD and that is 2K cheaper than the 3, a whopping 4K cheaper than the 1.8L Civic / 2.0L Lancer; but the downside is the Forte's resale value is approximately 20% lower so it kinda balances out. The negative brand image of Korean marques is evident here in Australia as well as the general public still scoffs at Kias/Hyundais, regardless that the i30 was one of the best Aussie cars in 07 and now the Forte offers many unexpected surprises. Hondas are horrendously overpriced here (hence the 3 reigns supreme) - the joke is that the 1.5L City is priced similarly to the 2.0L Forte!! It's quite clear which is the better choice over here. I will be needing a ride next year due to job requirements and the Forte is one of the options available for me, but I'll be keeping an eye over the Mazda3 although my eyes hurt every time I look at the design. The 1.8L Civic, at 29K, is not worth the money while the Lancer offers nothing much except good engine performance. A fully kitted auto 2.0L Civic hits an absurd 34K and with that amount of money I'll be better off with a 118TSi Golf MKIV that is more refined. This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Jul 7 2009, 07:36 AM |
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sat into one (singapore car).. quite dissapointed with the interior.. not much improvement over the current kia cars.. build quality like local cars only.. only materials are slightly better. room feels like a small sedan only, although the boot is quite big..
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Jul 7 2009, 07:27 AM) The Koup is not officially available on the roads yet. And to be honest, apart from aesthetics I don't think the Koup has much improvement over the Forte. It's pretty much the same engine and has the same interior design, but I suppose it's another option for those who want something different from a family sedan. until now, i still dont know how to see the quality of interior, they looks all the same to me, as long as it doesn't giving out noise when get older then is ok. Almost every review online or in car magazines for the Forte resulted in thumbs up. Yet it's worth mentioning that all of them pointed out the same disadvantages, i.e. 4 speed auto tranny / jerky 5 speed manual box, hard interior plastics, relatively dated dash and console design, light steering, and 4-star ANCAP. I'm not sure about the prices in other countries, but in Australia the fully-kitted SLi is the best package you can get for your money although some may argue that the new Mazda3 offers a better drive with just a slightly higher price (27-28K). Speaking of which, the SLi is around 25-26KAUD and that is 2K cheaper than the 3, a whopping 4K cheaper than the 1.8L Civic / 2.0L Lancer; but the downside is the Forte's resale value is approximately 20% lower so it kinda balances out. The negative brand image of Korean marques is evident here in Australia as well as the general public still scoffs at Kias/Hyundais, regardless that the i30 was one of the best Aussie cars in 07 and now the Forte offers many unexpected surprises. Hondas are horrendously overpriced here (hence the 3 reigns supreme) - the joke is that the 1.5L City is priced similarly to the 2.0L Forte!! It's quite clear which is the better choice over here. I will be needing a ride next year due to job requirements and the Forte is one of the options available for me, but I'll be keeping an eye over the Mazda3 although my eyes hurt every time I look at the design. The 1.8L Civic, at 29K, is not worth the money while the Lancer offers nothing much except good engine performance. A fully kitted auto 2.0L Civic hits an absurd 34K and with that amount of money I'll be better off with a 118TSi Golf MKIV that is more refined. if i'm not wrong, the mazda 3 is around RM100k, whereby the forte is just around RM66k-70k? i still dont think that the sales of toyota vios or honda city is going to be affected due to their reputation in malaysia (malaysian mindset lar, not reputation ) |
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Jul 7 2009, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(amduser @ Jul 7 2009, 08:59 AM) until now, i still dont know how to see the quality of interior, they looks all the same to me, as long as it doesn't giving out noise when get older then is ok. I share your sentiments as well, it's really hard to understand what the reviewers meant by "hard interior plastics". Plastics are supposed to hard if i'm not wrong, the mazda 3 is around RM100k, whereby the forte is just around RM66k-70k? i still dont think that the sales of toyota vios or honda city is going to be affected due to their reputation in malaysia (malaysian mindset lar, not reputation ) It's crazy to expect a high level interior trim with soft leather wrappings everywhere at this segment, you get what you pay for. At the moment it's quite hard to know whether the Forte's interior will suffer from loose clanky parts but only time will tell. The dated design is a common complaint but for me it's still acceptable. The City/Jazz's interior is pretty similar, i.e. looks plain too, but I don't expect every car to have a spaceship cockpit like the Civic or the new Fiesta. Funky designs don't always work, just look at the crazy radio controls of the Gen2. There's a long term test review here and here, so it'll be interesting to see how the Forte fares in the long run. But the caveat is that it's not a very technical review, but rather an opinion about living with the car. If the Forte comes in at 66K it is likely to be an underpowered 1.6L. A C-segment with 1.6L is quite appalling if you ask me as the other rivals all have at least 1.8L. The brand perception is absolutely evident in M'sia. Anything slapped with a Honda badge will instantly get much love, but most people will agree that the Malaysian assembled Hondas are appalling in quality. Not forgetting overpriced too, but people don't seem to mind paying near RM100K for a 1.5L Jazz. Bloody hell, it's only 22-23K AUD !! I love the Jazz (great 7 speed semi-auto) but for RM 100K there are much better options around... This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Jul 7 2009, 10:38 AM |
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Jul 8 2009, 09:30 PM
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I believe KIA Forte is a good car.
Problem are: 1. KIA/Naza always kills its customer by slashing new car price after launching 1 to 2 years. Buyers who bought Spectra Novus 3 years ago at a price of RM73K can only sell aron RM35K due to the fact KIA is offering new Spectra 5 at only RM55K. Do u think ppl will buy the 3 years old Novus at aron RM55K???? Sellin RM55K is also consider a big loss, 24% compare to 2nd hand value of Toyota and Honda. So, to stop this and to help to maintain the 2nd hand, KIA has to take the lead. 2. Why KIA/Naza have to slash new car price after launching 1 or 2 years? Y so much stock to clear? If KIA/Naza has its own assembly & production line then they could control the volume of car to produce. I suspect KIA/Naza has to bring in a certain volume which is based on a quota and somehow to make it as if CKD, they must keep it here for a period or make some simple assembly. So when the demand is less than expected and KIA/Naza has to sell all balance volume to recover the cost he car, this is what u c see "Special discount price for new KIA/Naza car" but in actual fact that car was manufactured 1 to 2 years ago. That is why some new car has engine or gear box problem bcoz they have been kept idle for quite a long time. No matter how good is KIA/Naza car, if there is no improvement and stopage to this "Special discount prices", Malaysian will never have confident to buy any of its car. Not all M'sia mindset is dead. I will support any good car regardless of its brand if they do the business correctly and safeguard the interest of its car buyers. So, good luck to KIA Forte. Hope to see Forte a sucess in M'sia. |
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Jul 9 2009, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(leongwk15 @ Jul 8 2009, 09:30 PM) I believe KIA Forte is a good car. Not sure why Naza-Kia did that to previous old models, maybe they really have too many leftover stock that needs to be cleared. Price it too high, and people will scoff at the Korean image and choose a Japanese model instead. Price it too low, people will still look at it as a cheap, bargain car and relate it as undesirable. It's a catch-22 I suppose. Problem are: 1. KIA/Naza always kills its customer by slashing new car price after launching 1 to 2 years. Buyers who bought Spectra Novus 3 years ago at a price of RM73K can only sell aron RM35K due to the fact KIA is offering new Spectra 5 at only RM55K. Do u think ppl will buy the 3 years old Novus at aron RM55K???? Sellin RM55K is also consider a big loss, 24% compare to 2nd hand value of Toyota and Honda. So, to stop this and to help to maintain the 2nd hand, KIA has to take the lead. 2. Why KIA/Naza have to slash new car price after launching 1 or 2 years? Y so much stock to clear? If KIA/Naza has its own assembly & production line then they could control the volume of car to produce. I suspect KIA/Naza has to bring in a certain volume which is based on a quota and somehow to make it as if CKD, they must keep it here for a period or make some simple assembly. So when the demand is less than expected and KIA/Naza has to sell all balance volume to recover the cost he car, this is what u c see "Special discount price for new KIA/Naza car" but in actual fact that car was manufactured 1 to 2 years ago. That is why some new car has engine or gear box problem bcoz they have been kept idle for quite a long time. No matter how good is KIA/Naza car, if there is no improvement and stopage to this "Special discount prices", Malaysian will never have confident to buy any of its car. Not all M'sia mindset is dead. I will support any good car regardless of its brand if they do the business correctly and safeguard the interest of its car buyers. So, good luck to KIA Forte. Hope to see Forte a sucess in M'sia. Resale value is a funny thing. The 3 year depreciation for Korean makes is indeed much lower than the Japanese (usually around 15-20% less in Australia), but honestly not many people change their ride every 3 years. Speaking of which, if one bought a Forte at 25K here in Australia and after 3 years it's only worth half (3 year value of 50%), one loses 12500. Similarly if you get a top range Japanese make at 29K and after 3 years you lose 10150 (3 year value of 65%). You lose approx 2400 less, although you already pocketed 4000 extra originally. So at the end of the day, it'll be easier to choose the best package available for your budget. If you only have 25K to spare, the top range SLi Forte will be the best choice as it comes with everything the Japs can offer, well, with the exception of the 4 speed auto tranny. If the demand for the Forte goes up, maybe the resale value will eventually increase to a level nearer to the Japs and hence makes it a better choice in the long run. Otherwise, resale value doesn't really make that much of a difference. Servicing and parts costs will probably be the issue here as the Koreans were notorious in this aspect in the past. Then again, it's not like the Japs are immune from this problem. We all know how "well" the CKD Hondas fare in our M'sian market. Caught another glimpse of the Forte again today... Peter Schryer and his team really did a good job there - the Forte looks distinctively European and upmarket. Not radical like the 3 French companies, not funky like Ford/Mazda, it's more subtle like the Germans. And it definitely looks nothing like its predecessors. Anyway, this probably doesn't concern the M'sian market that much, but if the Australians really price the Koup at a similar price to the sedan it would be an interesting one. Nevertheless, sedans are still the main demand in the SEA region so I won't be surprised if it isn't brought in back home. What attracts me more is this: QUOTE If there's one thing to make you pause and think before dashing out and buying a Cerato Koup right now, it's this: Kia plans to offer an in-house six-speed automatic transmission for the Koup around this time next year. http://www.carpoint.com.au/news/2009/small...below-26k-15607 Kia, 6 speed auto for the sedan please? To blow those Japs away... This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Jul 9 2009, 08:38 PM |
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Jul 11 2009, 01:58 PM
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Personally i think forte interior is much.. much better than vios../altis alike.. (yes.. agreed its full hard plastic!) but i do not think its dated... but design is subjective.. for some of the down side in review..
1. light steering... due to motor driven.. not too worry.. there is hydraulic version too.. for low end model.. so its a choice.. 2. jerky drive train.. not too sure too.. but.. its engine is smooth.. very smooth.. only complains its a 4 gears ver. 3. drive, here.. i must say its sound insulation still has room for improvements but that again depends on the kind of insulation they provided, for rpm > 4K.. its intrusive.. but i kind like the engine sounds... but its again much better then vios.. (very less busy).... 4. contradicts to some.. Vios actually has slightly bigger boot space.. hmm... (in litres term) see how perceptions could tell a very different story.. no offence Overall..lets let the ride tell the story, only worry now is NAZA as the distributor..hee.. to me ESP really works.. and FC is great too >13km/L (light footer) is achievable.. certainly in design term.. i like mz3 and civic better.. but mz3 here is sg is selling > 20K over.. 50K vs 69K (base model) civic is over 80K! so depending on country AD marketing.. lets hope for the best.. |
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Jul 12 2009, 01:00 PM
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At the end of the day, reviews can only help so much and it's still up to a test drive for first-hand experience to really know the potential of the car.
It's a bit unfair to compare the Forte to the Vios as they are both from different segments despite the Forte's cheaper pricing. But if Naza/Kia really prices it below the 80K mark it might just give the 90+K City/Vios a run for its money. Too bad it's likely to start with a underwhelming 1.6L instead of the 2.0L. Going back to the interior, it's dated when compared to other rivals but not necessarily so when viewed on its own. Having said that, I personally think it's funkier brother the Soul has a nicer dash and console. The boxy shape and radical curves allow the Soul to have a crazier design. Speaking of which, maybe I'll look out for the Koup as well, especially if it's price range is similar to the sedan. I don't really need two more doors to carry kids Oh well, half a year more before the decision is made.... fingers crossed. And there is some glimpses of future Kia models with the new H-shaped grill. There's the Sorento, a D-segment car (Probably Magentis/Optima) and a super mini, likely to be a Picanto. Sigh... if the Koreans can take drastic steps to reinvent their brand, why can't Proton/Perodua do so? |
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Jul 12 2009, 05:21 PM
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yes.. agrees.. looking forward.. to the test drive... soon..! hopefully..
Added on July 15, 2009, 1:23 pmhi, All http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2009/06...lt-forte-sedan/ look at this! This post has been edited by Burgerlim: Jul 15 2009, 01:23 PM |
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Jul 20 2009, 05:29 PM
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no more news on forte?
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Jul 20 2009, 09:01 PM
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i am also anxious to know when is the launching date.
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Jul 23 2009, 07:29 PM
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Call Kia dealer, they said end of the year only launch.
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Jul 24 2009, 08:20 AM
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Kia confirmed that Forte will be on sale late this year because they still have plenty of Spectra 5 stocks which they still can't sell off.
These Spectra 5 are some with manufacturing year 2007. Unless they drop the price down below RM46k maybe they will be able to sell more. Considering its already 2 years old car, it should sell at a cheaper price. So, Malaysian please wait. This is what they say "Poor management". Kia is killing itself. |
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Jul 24 2009, 08:27 AM
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QUOTE(leongwk15 @ Jul 24 2009, 08:20 AM) Kia confirmed that Forte will be on sale late this year because they still have plenty of Spectra 5 stocks which they still can't sell off. Probably due to Naza's problem rather than Kia's. These Spectra 5 are some with manufacturing year 2007. Unless they drop the price down below RM46k maybe they will be able to sell more. Considering its already 2 years old car, it should sell at a cheaper price. So, Malaysian please wait. This is what they say "Poor management". Kia is killing itself. The brand snobbery attitude by the local market doesn't help sales (along with poor reputation of older generation Korean makes), and the dealers have no choice but to drop the price to clear stock. Which in turn delays people in decision making when purchasing a particular Korean car. Hyundai has improved their image with the new i series but at Honda/Toyota prices it's probably going to be a deterrence as well. It's sad to know that the Forte isn't going to come earlier especially when our southern neighbours are already having fun with theirs. |
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Jul 24 2009, 09:25 AM
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end of this year???..the design basi already!..naza is killing kia brand in m'sia
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Jul 24 2009, 10:07 AM
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That is poor brand management by Naza Kia. In that case i really have doubts getting the forte from Naza Kia. What a waste.
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Jul 24 2009, 12:35 PM
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I totally agree with you guys.
I believe Forte is a good chance to bring Kia & Naza back in the market but with current disappointment, they are going down. Naza Kia has already brought in Kia Forte, all kept in yard. Delay of launching will make the Forte not really a new car when its launch year end. Looks like every car brand is delaying any new launch because there is plenty of existing model in stock. They are in the same trade and working together for their own benefit. Buyers is the one suffering. Better looks for others option. |
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Jul 24 2009, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE(leongwk15 @ Jul 24 2009, 12:35 PM) I totally agree with you guys. from june until august then now end of the year. if any Naza ppl reading this forum they better think twice on this decision.I believe Forte is a good chance to bring Kia & Naza back in the market but with current disappointment, they are going down. Naza Kia has already brought in Kia Forte, all kept in yard. Delay of launching will make the Forte not really a new car when its launch year end. Looks like every car brand is delaying any new launch because there is plenty of existing model in stock. They are in the same trade and working together for their own benefit. Buyers is the one suffering. Better looks for others option. the fact is, korean makes hardly attract fans in malaysia. and that small bunch of ppl who are interested aren't gonna buy spectra 5 if they know that forte is coming with a competitive price so regardless of how much stock they still have, spectra 5's gonna sit there waiting to rot. Naza will end up losing more because a lot ppl will go for other choices rather than waiting for forte. sad ppl, and to have waited this long i think i'm going to buy another make soon. bye bye Naza |
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Jul 27 2009, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE(silencer12 @ Jul 24 2009, 07:13 PM) from june until august then now end of the year. if any Naza ppl reading this forum they better think twice on this decision. like switching back to Vios n City??the fact is, korean makes hardly attract fans in malaysia. and that small bunch of ppl who are interested aren't gonna buy spectra 5 if they know that forte is coming with a competitive price so regardless of how much stock they still have, spectra 5's gonna sit there waiting to rot. Naza will end up losing more because a lot ppl will go for other choices rather than waiting for forte. sad ppl, and to have waited this long i think i'm going to buy another make soon. bye bye Naza hehe |
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Jul 27 2009, 04:33 PM
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forte is the new spectra right
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Jul 27 2009, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE(fookeesan @ Jul 27 2009, 03:53 PM) like switching back to Vios n City?? hahaha... maybe sx4, maybe elantra/avante... there are still choices around... not necessarily the 2 main jap makes hehe |
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Jul 28 2009, 09:57 AM
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i found this news on the net. naza three models will roll out this year.
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Jul 28 2009, 11:03 AM
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oh....only 2 doors is introduced...... probably they wont bring in 4 doors...haha
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Jul 28 2009, 11:53 AM
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i doubt the report. the 2 door koupe will not help win market share as the demand for 4 door sedan will be many folds more than 2 door sedan.
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Jul 28 2009, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Jul 28 2009, 11:53 AM) i doubt the report. the 2 door koupe will not help win market share as the demand for 4 door sedan will be many folds more than 2 door sedan. i agree as the 2 doors really put me off........ sigh..... end of forte for me.... |
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Jul 28 2009, 01:39 PM
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sauce for 4 door Forte
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Jul 28 2009, 02:24 PM
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Saw this ad http://carlist.my/listings.php?id=30208. It says it will be launched end July.
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Jul 28 2009, 02:31 PM
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seems like a reasonable price, would kick the hyundai i30 in its butt
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Jul 28 2009, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(musclemass @ Jul 28 2009, 02:24 PM) If the price really is < 70k I'm sooooo going to get this. |
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Jul 28 2009, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE(fookeesan @ Jul 28 2009, 11:03 AM) oh....only 2 doors is introduced...... probably they wont bring in 4 doors...haha there wont be wide market for 2 door, most of the malaysian are aim for 4 doorsmaybe kia soul will win satria neo.....MAYBE |
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Jul 28 2009, 03:14 PM
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now everything is weird......one announce 2 doors , the other 4 doors.... lets just wait
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Jul 28 2009, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(fookeesan @ Jul 28 2009, 03:14 PM) now everything is weird......one announce 2 doors , the other 4 doors.... lets just wait We getting Transformer version. |
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Jul 28 2009, 04:07 PM
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There are still doubts. Doubts about Naza, their quality, their after sales service and availability of parts. Anyone care to share experience ?
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Jul 28 2009, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE(mockv1per @ Jul 28 2009, 01:39 PM) sauce for 4 door Forte Same pic shown on paultan some time ago... Chrome parts with 17 inch alloys... looks like the high trim SLi or EX depending on which nomenclature Naza decides to use for the Malaysian market. I'd put my money and say they'll follow our southern neighbours and use LX and EX instead. http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/9015/nazaforte2large.jpg so, any more doubts? QUOTE(musclemass @ Jul 28 2009, 02:24 PM) Looks dodgy... too cheap to be true. At 66K it'll probably kill the Wajas and Personas. QUOTE(fookeesan @ Jul 28 2009, 03:14 PM) now everything is weird......one announce 2 doors , the other 4 doors.... lets just wait If it comes, it'll definitely have the sedan although I'm not sure how profitable would it be to bring in the Koup.This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Jul 28 2009, 07:46 PM |
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Jul 28 2009, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Jul 28 2009, 07:45 PM) Same pic shown on paultan some time ago... Chrome parts with 17 inch alloys... looks like the high trim SLi or EX depending on which nomenclature Naza decides to use for the Malaysian market. I'd put my money and say they'll follow our southern neighbours and use LX and EX instead. 17"? is they come in with 17" i will down size it to 15" if it can fit, 17" for 1.6cc is too underpower.Looks dodgy... too cheap to be true. At 66K it'll probably kill the Wajas and Personas. If it comes, it'll definitely have the sedan although I'm not sure how profitable would it be to bring in the Koup. |
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Jul 28 2009, 11:16 PM
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Hopefully it launch soon. As there is not much new laucnhing from others makers. I believe Naza / Kia has to launch it soon as I believe they have stock up a lot and if this miss this launch this year, next year buyer is actually buying year 2009 made car.
But, have to really the year of manufacture and the tyre date as there alot of this issue happening to Spectra 5 owners. Buy new but old manufactured car. Interest buyers please keep this in mind. |
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Jul 30 2009, 06:53 PM
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good news. i just received a sms from one of the kia dealers "100 units of Kia Forte just reach Malaysian kastam, waiting for memo of launching." most probably naza is going to launch in august.
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Jul 30 2009, 07:02 PM
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The Kia Forte actually arrived in Malaysia. Kept secretly by Naza. Don't be surprised to c the year the car was manufactured. The easiest way is to look at the year of the tyre.
Naza do not have the capacity to assemble so many variety of car model. Kia Forte is actually imported with just 1 or 2 parts assemble here to make it a CKD. |
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Jul 31 2009, 08:28 AM
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Typical rebadge procedure.
Bring in limited CBU units - register models at RTD/JPJ - swap badges - wait for top mgmt launch announcement Lv d looks n predicted pricing. Just hope Naza wont spoil resale value n post sales support like wat they did with Ria, 206 n Citra. |
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Aug 3 2009, 02:02 PM
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called the guy he said naza is not going to bring the 2.0L model.. just 1.6 forte...
my friend had seen this kia forte in malaysia as he is the kia authorize service dealer. he also mentioned there are total of 3 new models. |
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Aug 3 2009, 02:30 PM
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i saw on carlist....1.6L is 66k...
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Aug 3 2009, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(xshiro @ Aug 3 2009, 02:30 PM) i saw on carlist....1.6L is 66k... u juz bout 1 week late |
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hey guys i just found out this website offers a lot of pics and reviews on the new kia forte. forte forum
this is the most detailed forum so far and all the pics are very good quality. |
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Aug 3 2009, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE(phelix @ Aug 3 2009, 03:50 PM) i hv called so many SA but nobody can confirm when is the launching |
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QUOTE(skybar @ Aug 3 2009, 03:56 PM) i hv called so many SA but nobody can confirm when is the launching they accept booking already mah...after so many photos and reviewed.. is a good car to own. how much for the deposit?? any one know? source from one of the naza guy after launch need to wait for 2 month only can get the car. arhhh... |
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this car look sooo good on the road.
more n more of these comes flocking around jb road with singaporean plat of course |
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QUOTE(phelix @ Aug 3 2009, 02:02 PM) called the guy he said naza is not going to bring the 2.0L model.. just 1.6 forte... serious??? no 2.0 launch in future?my friend had seen this kia forte in malaysia as he is the kia authorize service dealer. he also mentioned there are total of 3 new models. |
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Aug 3 2009, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE(fookeesan @ Aug 3 2009, 05:13 PM) serious??? no 2.0 launch in future? NO... according to the SA... |
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Aug 3 2009, 07:34 PM
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but i read naza will introduce the koup version..its 2.5L...
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smart move i guess, i think the 1.6 segment is the best bet for forte to start..
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kia are improving very fast, I hope this is indeed a well build fun car, unlike the ckd honda shit...
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Aug 5 2009, 03:03 PM
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any Kia SA here?
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Aug 5 2009, 03:15 PM
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not bad at all kia forte.. i saw one outside nikko hotel yesterday .. white color with red color singapore plate...
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QUOTE(phelix @ Aug 5 2009, 03:03 PM) any Kia SA here? now u can book ur kia forte at all the naza kia branches or dealers. car is going to launch anytime in aug/sep. white color is the best.This post has been edited by skybar: Aug 5 2009, 04:34 PM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Aug 5 2009, 04:39 PM
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how much required for booking and how long we need to wait for the car?
heard stock ready that means early bird can collect car in a week time after launch? EDIT: do share with us the estimated price and spec.. below RM70k? This post has been edited by phelix: Aug 5 2009, 04:40 PM |
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QUOTE(phelix @ Aug 5 2009, 04:39 PM) how much required for booking and how long we need to wait for the car? for more info u can call this guy from carlist.my. kia SAheard stock ready that means early bird can collect car in a week time after launch? EDIT: do share with us the estimated price and spec.. below RM70k? i think he can provide u more detailed info |
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Aug 5 2009, 04:57 PM
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Are you serious that Naza Kia will be releasing the new forte soon?
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no one can guarantee when but it's going to launch by this year. prices estimated rm65k to rm75k.
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Aug 5 2009, 05:03 PM
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i've called him last week...
source is YES, Naza will bring this lovely forte in..but only limited to 1.6 with price tag estimated below RM70k, but need to wait 2 months after launch only can get the car with normal interest at 3.25 below 5 years and 3.4 for 7 years and 3.5 for 9 years loan. this is what i got... hopefully someone can share more latest news. |
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Aug 5 2009, 05:43 PM
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erhmmmmmm one of the picture shown above comes with sunroof?
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Aug 5 2009, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE(jimmy.soo @ Aug 5 2009, 05:43 PM) erhmmmmmm one of the picture shown above comes with sunroof? the one with the sunroof is the 2.0SX model in s'pore. most high end model. |
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lol....... so we're definitely wont be seeing that in here lorr
1.6 one varient only they gonna bring in? hopefully it comes with safety spec |
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Aug 6 2009, 12:27 AM
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hey guys, actually i'm in love with this car when i saw it. but a lot of my frens against from buying kia cars. the major concerns are the realibility of the car, expensive spare parts & maintenance costs especially the bad service of NAZA....what do u guys think?
by the way, from the forte cerato singapore forum, noticed that a lot of problems mentioned...new car also got windscreen cracked..quite a no. of the owners are facing this |
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QUOTE(spiderwick @ Aug 6 2009, 12:27 AM) hey guys, actually i'm in love with this car when i saw it. but a lot of my frens against from buying kia cars. the major concerns are the realibility of the car, expensive spare parts & maintenance costs especially the bad service of NAZA....what do u guys think? ur rite a lot of my friends also anti kia becoz of their resale value and expensive spare parts. but what the heck the design is definitely better than vios, persona, waja and even altis. regarding the problems mention in the forum, heck even our national car also have lots of problem but still u see many people buying it. i myself also waiting to test drive the real thing then i will definitely order the white color. damn chun by the way, from the forte cerato singapore forum, noticed that a lot of problems mentioned...new car also got windscreen cracked..quite a no. of the owners are facing this try show this to yr friends who are anti kia. world car of the year nominees 2010 nomineeseven the kia forte is listed but can u find vios and city This post has been edited by skybar: Aug 6 2009, 01:06 AM |
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QUOTE(skybar @ Aug 6 2009, 12:58 AM) ur rite a lot of my friends also anti kia becoz of their resale value and expensive spare parts. but what the heck the design is definitely better than vios, persona, waja and even altis. regarding the problems mention in the forum, heck even our national car also have lots of problem but still u see many people buying it. i myself also waiting to test drive the real thing then i will definitely order the white color. damn chun resale value is not a prob to me actually. but scared of the realibility issues, i dun wan my car always visit garage lol. i'm driving hyundai now and on and off this car is giving me a lot of headache try show this to yr friends who are anti kia. world car of the year nominees 2010 nomineeseven the kia forte is listed but can u find vios and city that's why i'm bit scared to commit myself to korean car now~ |
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QUOTE(spiderwick @ Aug 6 2009, 01:09 AM) resale value is not a prob to me actually. but scared of the realibility issues, i dun wan my car always visit garage lol. i'm driving hyundai now and on and off this car is giving me a lot of headache new car got 3 yrs warranty. if this forte always having problems after 3 yrs heck just sell it off no choice. nowadays many car owners won't drive the same car for more than 5yrs. many car manufacturers in future will try the best hard to improve and always design new models to capture market. that's why i'm bit scared to commit myself to korean car now~ |
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QUOTE(skybar @ Aug 6 2009, 01:41 AM) new car got 3 yrs warranty. if this forte always having problems after 3 yrs heck just sell it off no choice. nowadays many car owners won't drive the same car for more than 5yrs. many car manufacturers in future will try the best hard to improve and always design new models to capture market. that's the problem - selling off the vehicle in a short period the depreciation loss is high especially for Korean Cars.I am aiming for this car as well but something is bothering me: - Service would it be expensive ? It must be done by Authorize center. This is also to make sure the 3 year warranty still valid - After sales service is it good, and warranty claim as well is it smooth ?? Current owner of Kia vehicle please enlighten us - after Warranty period for any change of parts is there alot of OEM parts ? - 2nd hand value (but this one doesn't concern me much, as once buy gonna use it for long 5 years above) - reliability of Korean cars ... due to the history is still short and we can't really compare with other country as their car tenure is shorter compare to Malaysia, in other words cars are cheap to buy in other country (Euro, US .... ) can be easily change. The reason above made me abit hesitate so far Korean car are doing well all around the world (US, Europe even singapore) they are increasing share market. FYI Toyota and Honda ori parts doesn't come cheap as well, what makes the maintenance cheap is the OEM parts which is available thought out the market, and there's alot of common parts so most Jap (Ring , seal, filter..... etc) The Forte made me well because of:- Design - The price Tag (less than 70 k can get such a car comparable to Civic , Mazda3 , Altis !! where these cars still cost around 100k if fitted with a 1.6/5 engine) - ANCAP 4 star rating (Waja only 3 star - after crash door cannot open) forget about the fuel consumption thingy so far the comparison given by users it sounds okay (10-15 km/l -), don't la go compare with your SLK (small little kancil) or any other 1000/13000 cc cars > lighter smaller engine capacity |
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QUOTE(titarium @ Aug 6 2009, 07:45 AM) that's the problem - selling off the vehicle in a short period the depreciation loss is high especially for Korean Cars. if u worry about the car maintenance i what i can tell u is toyota and honda their service aint cheap. no need worry for the spare parts, if take good care of ur car i don't think it can spoil easily. furthermore 3yrs is quite a long time anything can happen. so just enjoy ur ride first then only worry about the spare parts. heck who knows in 3 yrs time u might get rich and bought a merz or camry.I am aiming for this car as well but something is bothering me: - Service would it be expensive ? It must be done by Authorize center. This is also to make sure the 3 year warranty still valid - After sales service is it good, and warranty claim as well is it smooth ?? Current owner of Kia vehicle please enlighten us - after Warranty period for any change of parts is there alot of OEM parts ? - 2nd hand value (but this one doesn't concern me much, as once buy gonna use it for long 5 years above) - reliability of Korean cars ... due to the history is still short and we can't really compare with other country as their car tenure is shorter compare to Malaysia, in other words cars are cheap to buy in other country (Euro, US .... ) can be easily change. The reason above made me abit hesitate so far Korean car are doing well all around the world (US, Europe even singapore) they are increasing share market. FYI Toyota and Honda ori parts doesn't come cheap as well, what makes the maintenance cheap is the OEM parts which is available thought out the market, and there's alot of common parts so most Jap (Ring , seal, filter..... etc) The Forte made me well because of:- Design - The price Tag (less than 70 k can get such a car comparable to Civic , Mazda3 , Altis !! where these cars still cost around 100k if fitted with a 1.6/5 engine) - ANCAP 4 star rating (Waja only 3 star - after crash door cannot open) forget about the fuel consumption thingy so far the comparison given by users it sounds okay (10-15 km/l -), don't la go compare with your SLK (small little kancil) or any other 1000/13000 cc cars > lighter smaller engine capacity |
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Aug 8 2009, 03:24 AM
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will naza bring ceed too?
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Aug 8 2009, 09:40 AM
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ceed is only for european market. but naza will bring in soul. watch this commercial very funny
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75K is very very cheap event the hyudai I30 also cost u RM92K
is this car local assemble ? |
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QUOTE(monster2020 @ Aug 8 2009, 11:10 AM) 75K is very very cheap event the hyudai I30 also cost u RM92K what i found out from the SA is 65k CKD 75k CBU.is this car local assemble ? |
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will the soul be sold in malaysia?
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QUOTE(jasminelim @ Aug 8 2009, 11:37 AM) will the soul be sold in malaysia? yes...soul will be here as well... Added on August 8, 2009, 12:28 pm QUOTE(skybar @ Aug 8 2009, 11:29 AM) what i found out from the SA is 65k CKD 75k CBU. basically they just bring in the car...assemble small parts locally then they call it a CKD... WTF... why don't mazda follow the same way to avoid stupid tax? Added on August 8, 2009, 12:48 pmUS is going to launch the Kia Forte at September 6, 2009... maybe Malaysia will launch it around that date... hoho.. This post has been edited by phelix: Aug 8 2009, 12:48 PM |
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soul coming in ??!!
When?? When?? |
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Aug 9 2009, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(monster2020 @ Aug 8 2009, 11:10 AM) 75K is very very cheap event the hyudai I30 also cost u RM92K If the rumoured 65K is true, then Naza/Kia must having some tricks up their sleeves. It'll probably give the Persona a big kick in the butt and I'm not sure whether our government will allow this. Even at 75K it may sway some people from getting a Proton. is this car local assemble ? The Forte is a competitor to Civic/3/Corolla/Lancer but if the 1.6 is the sole model that was brought in it'll only be regarded as City/Vios/Latio class. Not sure whether it's good or bad for Naza/Kia - On one hand it might just nick some sales from potential City/Vios buyers as the Forte will give more space with less buck; yet on the other hand Kia might lose out on an opportunity to attack the C-segment market. A full spec 2.0SX at say 100K would probably worry Honda and Toyota as you pay 15-20K more for a mere 1.8L car with less equipment. But would people be willing to spend 100K on a Korean make? Badge snobbery is still something that's very prevalent in our market. QUOTE(phelix @ Aug 8 2009, 12:25 PM) US is going to launch the Kia Forte at September 6, 2009... I presume you mean the Koup.maybe Malaysia will launch it around that date... hoho.. The Forte sedan was already on sale in North America for some time. This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Aug 9 2009, 11:36 AM |
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Aug 9 2009, 11:40 AM
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Singapore also already have this car.
I know resale value is low but after 8 year my iswara also cant sale more than 15 k. |
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so.. any latest news?
cant wait to have this beauty on our road. gonna buy one but cannot wait for long time also. sigh... |
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Aug 10 2009, 02:30 PM
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I have much interest with the new forte over the common favours like vios/city. But seeing Naza's infamous reputation of bad aftersales and horrid discounting which leads to very bad deprecciation, i really have doubts to own a forte here
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Aug 10 2009, 03:00 PM
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vios is becoming like myvi already. see here and there also got vios.
although i'm very tempted to own a J manual (white) before... im considering to use the car more than 5 years.. so depreciation not an issue. maybe have a little doubt on how much kia improve in term of FC for the new release. just called the seller on mudah.my, same story mention that 100 units already in Kastam. and he dunno latest news as Naza didn't didn't update yet. but expected between end of august and early september before Hari Raya. rm1k booking fees and 10% for downpayment. |
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Aug 9 2009, 03:29 PM) If the rumoured 65K is true, then Naza/Kia must having some tricks up their sleeves. It'll probably give the Persona a big kick in the butt and I'm not sure whether our government will allow this. Even at 75K it may sway some people from getting a Proton. Haiyah.. they will use the usual trick la. For the first 3 years, they will flog it as Kia Forte at RM95,000. Then they will add on some Ah Beng plastic parts from Brothers, change the badge and relaunch it as Naza Tempeyek for RM70,000 while Najib and his entire cabinet jump up and down screaming 1Malaysia and Malaysia Boleh. Proton on the other hand will launch Proton Tenuk after successfully mating a Mitsu Lancer with a tapir under supervision of UPM. RM60,000. By that time, everybody is so happy with the win-win situation... nobody even remembers anything about AFTA anymore... |
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Jul 28 2009, 07:45 PM) Same pic shown on paultan some time ago... Chrome parts with 17 inch alloys... looks like the high trim SLi or EX depending on which nomenclature Naza decides to use for the Malaysian market. I'd put my money and say they'll follow our southern neighbours and use LX and EX instead. At 66K its a steal.. in sg this car sells for > 47.5kSGD! for base model without ESC (traction, cornering, EBD, ABS... ) but again it depends on the specs.. korean car is well known to have different batch diff specs.. Looks dodgy... too cheap to be true. At 66K it'll probably kill the Wajas and Personas. If it comes, it'll definitely have the sedan although I'm not sure how profitable would it be to bring in the Koup. full spec forte could match any MIJ car anytime.. from climatic a/c all the way to instrument cluster... at that price.. maybe it comes somewhat like EX (as in here in SG) model? 15" wheel..basic accessories? check it out at www.kia-cerato.com (me no sale of kia / naza...) QUOTE(amduser @ Jul 28 2009, 08:07 PM) 17"? is they come in with 17" i will down size it to 15" if it can fit, 17" for 1.6cc is too underpower. Forte at 17" 1.6 124bhp is just ok.. (a little underpower in pickup... cruising is v.good.. ) suspension is good too... but ride can be a little noisy depending on the insulation given... and very surprise.. many could achieve 12/13km/l FC.. that v.good.. considering of the wheel size.. 80/20% Highway/Urban... QUOTE(spiderwick @ Aug 6 2009, 12:27 AM) hey guys, actually i'm in love with this car when i saw it. but a lot of my frens against from buying kia cars. the major concerns are the realibility of the car, expensive spare parts & maintenance costs especially the bad service of NAZA....what do u guys think? FYI, from the forum too.. think many of those issues is due to new model.. and Forte manufactured after july 09 is fixed with the above Windscreen cracking problem..(some mould adjustment i think) so i dun think msia model should be affected... reliability wise.. other then those few little hickups..sensor.. lights etc.. its a fine car.. kr car has come a long way... try it and you could instantly forget about Vios.. (personal opinion)..by the way, from the forte cerato singapore forum, noticed that a lot of problems mentioned...new car also got windscreen cracked..quite a no. of the owners are facing this servicing by naza not too sure.. la... looking at the way they sell car... not too sure... HTH... This post has been edited by Burgerlim: Aug 12 2009, 03:49 AM |
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A few months back SA was telling, launching is in May than July and now they say Oct. Probably due to unsold Spectras?
And Yeah if you go to SG forum you will notice the car has some problems. FC is quite high and if you can get 13Km/L is considered very good.(the car is really damn heavy) And here those City owners who is averaging 13-14km/l making a big fuss of it..! Forte in Pic look good but in flesh it looks even better. Seen one in Red and another couple of Silvers. Quite tempting but will hold on to see WaLa (waja+Lancer) first and if nothing fits a used FD2 or new Altis will be good for me. This post has been edited by W.ROOK: Aug 12 2009, 08:15 AM |
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In my opinion if the stock for spectra is low they should launch Forte first, then give Spectra an unofficial discount this way they will get to boost sales figure up rather than wait. |
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any waja+lancer photos for sharing?
I dun think Forte FC is high, but at most average... comparing to vios / city should be close to Altis 1.6 or better i think since altis engine is really old... ? 2 cents. |
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i tot the price of forte is higher coz i saw review at cars.com mentioned that it's a direct competition to honda civic....so maybe the price shall be a bit lower than civic? i dunno liao...
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QUOTE(*7* @ Aug 13 2009, 12:01 PM) i tot the price of forte is higher coz i saw review at cars.com mentioned that it's a direct competition to honda civic....so maybe the price shall be a bit lower than civic? i dunno liao... forte price won't exceed rm80k. direct competition to the civic means it's considered a C-segment cat. that's what all the naza SA promise. |
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if they are bringing in 1.6 only...then it cannot be a civic competitor..
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still waiting for the real car to reach our island...
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the sales person told me they will launch forte after they clear off the old spectras...still got alot stock.and the price is around 70K from what they said...and first few batch might be CBU model. they also said local factory also assembling them already.
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ur rite. that's the problem with naza over stock cars, 3 yrs later give heavy discount. if forte launched b4 raya still can consider to buy. if launching is end of the year cannot buy becoz u will get a 2009 manufactured car registered in 2010.
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QUOTE(xshiro @ Aug 13 2009, 12:42 PM) if they are bringing in 1.6 only...then it cannot be a civic competitor.. Some of the reviews & forums said it's a direct competitor to civic & altis becoz they are all c-segment (compact) car. Whereas city & vios are sub-compact car. The classification is in terms of car dimensions not engine size.unless you are talking about the 2.0 model which i heard many times that naza wont bring it in... Comparison of car dimensions (L x W x H) : 1. Forte 1.6 (singapore ver) = 4530 x 1775 x 1460 mm, kerb weight 1326 kg 2. Civic 1.8 = 4540 x 1755 x 1435 mm, kerb weight 1240 kg 3. City 1.5 = 4395 x 1715 x 1470 mm, kerb weight 1140 kg Comparison of engine size: 1.Forte 1.6 (singapore ver) = capacity 1591 cc, power 122 PS (92 kW), torque 156 Nm 2. Civic 1.8 = capacity 1799 cc, power 140 PS (103 kW), torque 174 Nm 3. City 1.5 = capacity 1497 cc, power 120 PS (88 kW), torque 145 Nm So from the spec comparison above, i think it's fair to say Forte is almost as large as Civic, City is relatively smaller in size; Forte is also the heaviest, but only packed with an engine with output similar to City. Of course other factors to be considered for buyers are probably the look of a car, the major features, the brand, the price and after sale service. Performance and comfort wise, i think there are plenty of reviews by experts or users that are worth checking. For myself, i say i quite like the new Forte. |
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forte is heavier than city by almost 200KG
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QUOTE(amduser @ Aug 16 2009, 06:30 PM) forte is heavier than city by almost 200KG i don't think this car is built for power like the NHC. it's more on the stability and comfort ride. but still the 1.6 can reach up to 180km/hr. as for the 0-60 still unknown. found it from this forum forte top speedi wonder how is the 0-60 and 0-100 |
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QUOTE(JunZhun @ Aug 16 2009, 03:35 PM) Some of the reviews & forums said it's a direct competitor to civic & altis becoz they are all c-segment (compact) car. Whereas city & vios are sub-compact car. The classification is in terms of car dimensions not engine size. Not surprising, since the Forte is originally a C-segment car which comes with a 2.0 engine as a base model. The 1.6 is an old engine that's put in to suit the SEA market. In fact, North America gets the option of an 2.4 with 6 speed manual/5 speed auto while over here we only got 1 engine make to choose from, which is the 2.0. Comparison of car dimensions (L x W x H) : 1. Forte 1.6 (singapore ver) = 4530 x 1775 x 1460 mm, kerb weight 1326 kg 2. Civic 1.8 = 4540 x 1755 x 1435 mm, kerb weight 1240 kg 3. City 1.5 = 4395 x 1715 x 1470 mm, kerb weight 1140 kg Comparison of engine size: 1.Forte 1.6 (singapore ver) = capacity 1591 cc, power 122 PS (92 kW), torque 156 Nm 2. Civic 1.8 = capacity 1799 cc, power 140 PS (103 kW), torque 174 Nm 3. City 1.5 = capacity 1497 cc, power 120 PS (88 kW), torque 145 Nm So from the spec comparison above, i think it's fair to say Forte is almost as large as Civic, City is relatively smaller in size; Forte is also the heaviest, but only packed with an engine with output similar to City. Of course other factors to be considered for buyers are probably the look of a car, the major features, the brand, the price and after sale service. Performance and comfort wise, i think there are plenty of reviews by experts or users that are worth checking. For myself, i say i quite like the new Forte. The 2.0 Forte may have the greatest power in terms of numbers, but according to reviews it's handling and drive experience still lack the finesse compared to Civic and 3; and the 4 speed auto doesn't help. But as mentioned before, it's the overall package that's value for money although the majority of people are still quite reluctant to pay so much for Korean makes. |
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bro dantck i think this video applies the the forte 2.4 which is only available to the north america. no way the 1.6 can achieve such great pick up.
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emailed a sales guy of kiamalaysia, told me he got no idea abt the availability of this model in malaysia yet... r we still waiting for it?
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QUOTE(hAnn @ Aug 16 2009, 10:46 PM) emailed a sales guy of kiamalaysia, told me he got no idea abt the availability of this model in malaysia yet... r we still waiting for it? the forte is already inside naza warehouse. they are just waiting to clear off the spectra5 as many as possible b4 launching. but for sure it'll launch by this year. |
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Aug 17 2009, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE(skybar @ Aug 16 2009, 11:27 PM) the forte is already inside naza warehouse. they are just waiting to clear off the spectra5 as many as possible b4 launching. but for sure it'll launch by this year. great to hear this. any updates on the price? |
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Aug 17 2009, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(hAnn @ Aug 17 2009, 09:49 AM) great to hear this. any updates on the price? the price range from 65k to 75k. for more info u can call this guy at carlist |
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this car already launched in singapore a year back. the basic model is, to be honest, has nothing new. interior wise, its pretty decent. and it will not be called Forte because Kia insist only Korean Domestic Market can sell it as Forte. non KDM, use cerato or something.
but new car always good. so no problem meh. |
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Aug 17 2009, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE(iambenyap @ Aug 17 2009, 05:33 PM) oOoOo~ no i am not a dealer. just wanna help those forumers who are interested to book the car. i myself also waiting for the lauching.Sexy car....are you the dealer of that Kia Forte? |
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Aug 17 2009, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE(mokhzaini @ Aug 17 2009, 05:29 PM) this car already launched in singapore a year back. the basic model is, to be honest, has nothing new. interior wise, its pretty decent. and it will not be called Forte because Kia insist only Korean Domestic Market can sell it as Forte. non KDM, use cerato or something. Not exactly. North America calls it the Forte as well, whereas in Singapore it's called the Cerato Forte and over here in Australia it retains the old Cerato name. Not sure whether M'sia will follow our southern neighbours and call it the Cerato Forte or not, but does it really matter? And even if Naza rebadges it into a Naza rather than Kia, there's always the option of changing the emblem like how most people do with their Bestari 206. |
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Aug 18 2009, 12:43 AM
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well this car is push to start...dont give a bad impression la...if u havent test drive it guys..once u see the interior...u will amaze....is have usb for ipod...cd player...flip back mirror...the seat are good too...i sit inside before for car clinic...hehe=)
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Aug 18 2009, 12:57 AM
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I'm kinda lookin forward to this car as well..after seeing how the Hyundai i30 let me down..
I'm hoping the specs of the car is what we've seen in many website..but I have a feeling they might remove the Start-stop button for the car =/ |
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Aug 18 2009, 04:46 AM
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QUOTE(madman20 @ Aug 18 2009, 12:57 AM) I'm kinda lookin forward to this car as well..after seeing how the Hyundai i30 let me down.. Care to share why the i30 is a disappointment? Most of the reviews gave it thumbs up, but maybe they might be missing something. I'm hoping the specs of the car is what we've seen in many website..but I have a feeling they might remove the Start-stop button for the car =/ Start-stop button is nothing more than a fancy gimmick. Pictures of the new Kia Venga is out... another weapon from the Koreans to fight the Japanese, esp the Jazz, 2, and Yaris? Looking good I must say, in fact it looks much better than the i20. This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Aug 18 2009, 04:51 AM |
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Aug 18 2009, 08:25 AM
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[OT]It's mainly on the i30 price placement..the car itself is well made..
Looking at how Hyundai Malaysia priced the car with it's spec..it is a real disappointment.. See the standard items included here..and compare to ours..it's like bleehhh.. |
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Aug 18 2009, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(JunZhun @ Aug 16 2009, 03:35 PM) Some of the reviews & forums said it's a direct competitor to civic & altis becoz they are all c-segment (compact) car. Whereas city & vios are sub-compact car. The classification is in terms of car dimensions not engine size. Hi, bro, Comparison of car dimensions (L x W x H) : 1. Forte 1.6 (singapore ver) = 4530 x 1775 x 1460 mm, kerb weight 1326 kg 2. Civic 1.8 = 4540 x 1755 x 1435 mm, kerb weight 1240 kg 3. City 1.5 = 4395 x 1715 x 1470 mm, kerb weight 1140 kg Comparison of engine size: 1.Forte 1.6 (singapore ver) = capacity 1591 cc, power 122 PS (92 kW), torque 156 Nm 2. Civic 1.8 = capacity 1799 cc, power 140 PS (103 kW), torque 174 Nm 3. City 1.5 = capacity 1497 cc, power 120 PS (88 kW), torque 145 Nm So from the spec comparison above, i think it's fair to say Forte is almost as large as Civic, City is relatively smaller in size; Forte is also the heaviest, but only packed with an engine with output similar to City. Of course other factors to be considered for buyers are probably the look of a car, the major features, the brand, the price and after sale service. Performance and comfort wise, i think there are plenty of reviews by experts or users that are worth checking. For myself, i say i quite like the new Forte. Forte 1326Kerb weight is inclusive of a 75KG driver... should minus that off... its typically ~1250KG and in SG the power output for 1.6 forte is 124PS / 156Nm... only 1PS less then 1.6Civic available here.. QUOTE(myboo_1988 @ Aug 18 2009, 12:43 AM) well this car is push to start...dont give a bad impression la...if u havent test drive it guys..once u see the interior...u will amaze....is have usb for ipod...cd player...flip back mirror...the seat are good too...i sit inside before for car clinic...hehe=) Push button only apply to LHD, too bad for us.. and i can tell you the key look and feel.. ahem.. che*p.. but there are after market avail already... but wont be cheap lo... |
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Aug 18 2009, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(Burgerlim @ Aug 18 2009, 01:12 PM) Hi, bro, Although "kerb weight" normally exclude passengers or cargo weight, some manufacturers do include a 75kg driver weight. So you might be right coz those stats i google one, so correct me if i'm wrong ^^Forte 1326Kerb weight is inclusive of a 75KG driver... should minus that off... its typically ~1250KG and in SG the power output for 1.6 forte is 124PS / 156Nm... only 1PS less then 1.6Civic available here.. According to one of da website, singapore ver Forte 1.6 EX & SX both hav power output of 124bhp (or 122PS or 92kW) / 156Nm & kerb weight of 1326kg. Showing da power in PS instead of bhp merely becoz malaysia honda's spec showing power in PS By da way, i wonder naza got Merdeka promotion for da spectra stock clearance or not... it's mid of Aug dy still not launching da new Forte, if gotta wait till clear all spectra then sian lor... This post has been edited by JunZhun: Aug 18 2009, 11:44 PM |
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QUOTE(JunZhun @ Aug 18 2009, 11:00 PM) Although "kerb weight" normally exclude passengers or cargo weight, some manufacturers do include a 75kg driver weight. So you might be right coz those stats i google one, so correct me if i'm wrong ^^ hmm... According to one of da website, singapore ver Forte 1.6 EX & SX both hav power output of 124bhp (or 122PS or 92kW) / 156Nm & kerb weight of 1326kg. Showing da power in PS instead of bhp merely becoz malaysia honda's spec showing power in PS By da way, i wonder naza got Merdeka promotion for da spectra stock clearance or not... it's mid of Aug dy still not launching da new Forte, if gotta wait till clear all spectra then sian lor... i am not too sure which PS you are referring to (German horse power? Pferdestärke?), but i think here is the conversion ratio for PS to BHP, 1.0 PS = 0.98632 BHP, technically its 124PS / 91.2KW@6300 rpm for forte, it should 122bhp? i may be wrong.. .so you may want to verify this again? but from a marketing point of view they would want to show the higher number specification... As for the weight... SG Gov record showing 1236KG (iirc) while extracting from Kia Website (canada) these are 2.0 (Top 2 rows) and 2.4litres version... (bottom 2 rows) CURB WEIGHT, kg (lb.) LX, EX SX 5-speed manual transmission 1,228 - 1,289 (2,707 - 2,842) - 4-speed automatic transmission 1,243 - 1,304 (2,740 - 2,875) - 6-speed manual transmission - 1,294 - 1,343 (2,853 - 2,961) 5-speed automatic transmission - 1,301 - 1,350 (2,868 - 2,976) I dun think 1.6L should be anywhere close, and of course depending on local specification, i.e sound insulation could easily top 20-30KG? |
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QUOTE(Burgerlim @ Aug 19 2009, 02:18 AM) hmm... Hi bro u r right, spec sheet in singapore c&c kia's website shows tat da 1.6 Forte is indeed 124 PS, n da PS to BHP ratio is right too so tat means it's equivalent to 122 bhp. Thanks for highlighting.i am not too sure which PS you are referring to (German horse power? Pferdestärke?), but i think here is the conversion ratio for PS to BHP, 1.0 PS = 0.98632 BHP, technically its 124PS / 91.2KW@6300 rpm for forte, it should 122bhp? i may be wrong.. .so you may want to verify this again? but from a marketing point of view they would want to show the higher number specification... So if da 1.6 Forte to be launched in malaysia oso has 124 PS & kerb weight of 1236 kg (~9.97kg/PS) vs city's 120 PS & kerb weight 1140 kg (~9.5kg/PS), tat sounds not too bad right? |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:08 AM
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From forums, looks like the forte got some quality issues. Lots of reported cracked windscreen for no reason. Due to its design and fitting.
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Aug 20 2009, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Aug 20 2009, 11:08 AM) From forums, looks like the forte got some quality issues. Lots of reported cracked windscreen for no reason. Due to its design and fitting. every car sure got some minor problems. even our proton and perodua has so many complaints in the past but still u see a lot ppl buying it. if the car price is rm65k would u rather buy persona or forte? |
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Aug 20 2009, 07:28 PM
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mesti la forte
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Aug 20 2009, 07:41 PM
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Aug 20 2009, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE(skybar @ Aug 20 2009, 07:14 PM) every car sure got some minor problems. even our proton and perodua has so many complaints in the past but still u see a lot ppl buying it. if the car price is rm65k would u rather buy persona or forte? those are minor problems.even toyota car also have problems, especially the V-belt there, when kena water or cold start it noisy like sh!t |
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Aug 20 2009, 09:40 PM
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Here's the thing I don't get..when other brands such as Toyota, Honda or Nissan have minor problem..people just shrug it off..
And when it comes down to other car makers such as Proton, Perodua, Kia etc..such minor problems becomes a major problem for them =/ |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:32 PM
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Case 1:
"I just bought a Civic, b..." "Wah Civic, Honda vor, it must be a very nice car, eh today u must drive us to lunch" N u swallow da "but got some minor prob", minor prob become no prob Case 2: "I just bought a Saga" "Oh Saga ar, i oso drove one b4 lar, i tell u lar u gotta take care da power window, after some time it sure bo lak one; then da center lock ar... blah blah blah" U no need tell ppl oso assume ur car got prob dy, minor prob become big prob Disclaimer: The events depicted above are fictitious. Any similarity to any person living or dead is merely coincidental |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Aug 20 2009, 11:08 AM) From forums, looks like the forte got some quality issues. Lots of reported cracked windscreen for no reason. Due to its design and fitting. Hi, Bronot too worry, production starts from July (from korea) should not have this problem anymore... their engineers actually flew in to check on few "sample cars" (see how people work? )mold adjusted and tadaa... That is why (personal opinion) MIKorea is catching MIJapan while MIMsia is matching MIIndia... |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:55 PM
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all car got problem one la...haha...i like the forte becos of the look and the accesories..regardless what most ppl say about korean car..not to say persona is bad car or anything..just bored of its look
sendiri beli sendiri tanggung..haha This post has been edited by xshiro: Aug 21 2009, 12:00 AM |
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Aug 21 2009, 01:59 AM
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Impresive design with good price
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Aug 21 2009, 03:13 AM
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QUOTE(madman20 @ Aug 20 2009, 09:40 PM) Here's the thing I don't get..when other brands such as Toyota, Honda or Nissan have minor problem..people just shrug it off.. And when it comes down to other car makers such as Proton, Perodua, Kia etc..such minor problems becomes a major problem for them =/ back to 1995 my father bought new honda..after few month breakdown already...has to import something from japan lol. So my farther sell it & buy proton wira (my own now-still strong)..now my father bought to kia & one toyota...the conclusion is whether u toyota, honda, proton, or kia all can give u problem maa..i still can't get it why when toyota or honda give prob people can said "oh it small prob"..when p1/p2 or our national car marker car has problem, u will hear lot of **** swear at them....hehe...sorry off topic lol!! |
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Aug 21 2009, 08:08 AM
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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Aug 21 2009, 03:13 AM) back to 1995 my father bought new honda..after few month breakdown already...has to import something from japan lol. So my farther sell it & buy proton wira (my own now-still strong)..now my father bought to kia & one toyota...the conclusion is whether u toyota, honda, proton, or kia all can give u problem maa..i still can't get it why when toyota or honda give prob people can said "oh it small prob"..when p1/p2 or our national car marker car has problem, u will hear lot of **** swear at them....hehe...sorry off topic lol!! Ppl have higher hope when they pay less and want to get a lot a lot more from the local cars . Tell u, if Proton ever produce a car tht have a 2400cc engine, with their own design and all, ppl will expect Proton to sell it below 100k back to topic, I'm also thinking of advising my parent to get the Kia Forte, bt due to the windscreen crack thingy, i guess I need to either opt for another option or wait for the other batch tht already fix this problem to come. Btw, shame tht Naza wont bring the 2.0 version here, it can easily fight wif Civic intern on looks. |
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Aug 21 2009, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(madman20 @ Aug 20 2009, 09:40 PM) Here's the thing I don't get..when other brands such as Toyota, Honda or Nissan have minor problem..people just shrug it off.. Well if you look deeper, you will see the issue is not as simple as you point it to be. And when it comes down to other car makers such as Proton, Perodua, Kia etc..such minor problems becomes a major problem for them =/ We know that there are reports that new Honda car can't start, parts are ill fitted and etc. These are quality issues, correct. But they are isolated case. Probably due to human error or unoptimized process. They can be fixed. Small matter. The case with Forte crack windscreen, that is a big problem because it is a structural or design defect. Once you bought the car they can't just take back and redesign your car. You don't know if it is windscreen or your chassis mold problem. |
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Aug 21 2009, 04:37 PM
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Agree...
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Aug 21 2009, 09:44 PM
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but at least kia has rectified the problem within a few months, while the power window problem is still around for almost 10 years.....
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Aug 21 2009, 09:54 PM
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i would wait for the Chevrolet Cruze. There is already a compare in one of singapore's automotive site...and I like what I read.
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Aug 22 2009, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE(finkl1 @ Aug 21 2009, 09:54 PM) i would wait for the Chevrolet Cruze. There is already a compare in one of singapore's automotive site...and I like what I read. There's another comparison available here. http://www.caradvice.com.au/33990/comparis...uze-kia-cerato/ This review actually highlights how overpriced the City is in Australia, rather than reveal whether the Cruze or the Forte is a better car. The Cruze seems to get pretty decent reviews over here, although one of the major debates is about its fuel consumption where different reviewers have different experiences about it. Like the Forte, people generally seem to be impressed with the Cruze as it is a huge improvement over previous Korean makes. In terms of looks I think the Forte looks more easy on the eye athough the Cruze has a more sophisticated looking interior. Having said that, both the Cruze and Forte aren't filling up the roads just yet... which isn't surprising. Even the best-rated Mazda 3 that was launched last year took quite some time to be popular on the roads. Economy's not that good, people ain't going for new cars now; not when a 2, 3 year old 3 is only worth half price. This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Aug 22 2009, 12:41 AM |
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Aug 22 2009, 02:30 AM
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Aug 21 2009, 09:50 AM) Well if you look deeper, you will see the issue is not as simple as you point it to be. well... new chasis / design will usually face with this problem.. here and there... while agrees this may be a big one (lets hope they really fixed it). MIJ, Conti.. all have some kind of problem.. this problem is not unique to Forte.. SuZuKi share the same problem too... We know that there are reports that new Honda car can't start, parts are ill fitted and etc. These are quality issues, correct. But they are isolated case. Probably due to human error or unoptimized process. They can be fixed. Small matter. The case with Forte crack windscreen, that is a big problem because it is a structural or design defect. Once you bought the car they can't just take back and redesign your car. You don't know if it is windscreen or your chassis mold problem. Suzuki windscreen crack... remember last Mazda 3 lauched with some bad brake issue.. ended recalling all to change (at least here in sg..). and the different is that they correct up the problem / flaws soonest.. |
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Aug 22 2009, 04:46 AM
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QUOTE(finkl1 @ Aug 21 2009, 09:54 PM) i would wait for the Chevrolet Cruze. There is already a compare in one of singapore's automotive site...and I like what I read. but cruze will cost much more than forte... |
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Aug 22 2009, 07:50 AM
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from what i read in the SG forum, the windscreen crack is manufacturing problem rather than design problem, after replacement problem no longer recur so far.
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Aug 22 2009, 12:35 PM
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I read on the Suzuki Swift Forums that Suzuki Swift also has windscreen cracking problem also. Doesn't affect everybody. Apparently it may be a design defect because the windscreen is very curvy.
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Aug 22 2009, 05:33 PM
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just TT with Naza Kia sales person, he told me forte only lanuch in 2009 as Naza still a lot of old spectra stock.
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Aug 22 2009, 07:22 PM
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Naza can keep those Spectras, it still won't sell... they have earn so freaking alot of money from the people with all those bestari , ria and that dumb piece of sutera...
Not to mention their AP...and stop monopolizing and delaying the rightful Kia models coming in. We have missed alot of quite receptive models such as the KiaCeed and ProCeed ( which carries the same engine bloc as the i30 i think ). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kia_cee%27d and here's what it looks like in Incus and tuned. http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2007/05/kia-c...ning-house.html Verssus BK. http://www.bodykitsandalloywheels.com/2009...m-ibher-design/ NAZA...please stop giving malaysians CRAPS. This post has been edited by finkl1: Aug 22 2009, 07:24 PM |
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Aug 22 2009, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE(MaXfly @ Aug 22 2009, 05:33 PM) just TT with Naza Kia sales person, he told me forte only lanuch in 2009 as Naza still a lot of old spectra stock. now bukan 2009 meh ? or u mean 2010 ? I have a hardcore hyundai fans from cari.com told me spectra 5 already sold out ~ |
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Aug 22 2009, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE(finkl1 @ Aug 22 2009, 07:22 PM) We have missed alot of quite receptive models such as the KiaCeed and ProCeed ( which carries the same engine bloc as the i30 i think ). The Ceed got a facelift recently with the Schryer grill incorporated into its front fascia. Some like it, some don't... yet no one can argue that its console design is horrendously out of fashion regardless of the red dials and buttons, as it still uses the old 2006 components. |
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Aug 23 2009, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Aug 22 2009, 11:57 PM) That's because the Ceed is exclusive for the European market... so no, neither Naza nor Kia will be bringing them in. Hmm..I've been reading around here that C'eed is exclusively for the European market..but our up north neighbour also have the C'eed in their model range..Kia C'eed @ Thailand *PS: Use the Sitemap and look for the C'eed link*..their site not coded properly for Firefox =/The Ceed got a facelift recently with the Schryer grill incorporated into its front fascia. Some like it, some don't... yet no one can argue that its console design is horrendously out of fashion regardless of the red dials and buttons, as it still uses the old 2006 components. |
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Aug 23 2009, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE(madman20 @ Aug 23 2009, 12:06 AM) Hmm..I've been reading around here that C'eed is exclusively for the European market..but our up north neighbour also have the C'eed in their model range..Kia C'eed @ Thailand *PS: Use the Sitemap and look for the C'eed link*..their site not coded properly for Firefox =/ Maybe Thailand is the only country outside Europe that has it...But hatches are less welcomed on our shores compared to sedan, and the Forte is technically a newer car than the Ceed, so it makes more sense for Naza/Kia to focus on Forte rather than the Ceed. Kia's site is really bad with Firefox |
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Aug 24 2009, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(MaXfly @ Aug 22 2009, 05:33 PM) just TT with Naza Kia sales person, he told me forte only lanuch in 2009 as Naza still a lot of old spectra stock. So will our Forte be fully locally assembled or will we be getting a Korean unit with small parts assembled here ? Maybe your friend can answer this. |
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Aug 25 2009, 01:55 PM
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Hmm..I do hope you could dig up more info MaXfly =)
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Aug 27 2009, 03:18 AM
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Poison. Poison. Sorry to the toyota altis in front. Comparing looks,
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Aug 27 2009, 03:34 AM
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Here is some pictures:
1.) Internal. Dashboard middle looks like city  
2.) Cerato Forte 
3.) Headlamp 
4.) Rearlamp 
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Aug 27 2009, 06:45 AM
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so pretty @@
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Aug 27 2009, 08:39 AM
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People... at least put up the source mah...
QUOTE(Vannus @ Aug 27 2009, 03:18 AM) Poison. Poison. Sorry to the toyota altis in front. Comparing looks, http://www.ceratoforte.sg/expose-your-fort...forte-t1193.htm
QUOTE(blueapple @ Aug 27 2009, 03:34 AM) Here is some pictures: http://www.ceratoforte.sg/expose-your-fort...-forte-t675.htm1.) Internal. Dashboard middle looks like city
2.) Cerato Forte
3.) Headlamp
4.) Rearlamp
Graphite is still the best colour... looks grey under artificial light but shows a shade of blue under the sun. Spicy red looks hot but a little too dark. The racing red of the Koup looks more "racy" Another long term review... http://www.themotorreport.com.au/39675/200...-review-part-3/ Looking good too, and with the facelifted Civic looking uglier than its earlier version (plus high price) and the 3's love-me-or-hate-me looks, Forte has a chance to join the C-segment party. Yet there ain't much rolling on the streets here in Melb. |
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Aug 27 2009, 10:12 AM
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sigh........cant wait dy le.......when is it gonna launch?
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Hmm..2 more adverts posted on KLue KLassifieds and mySimplifieds...both are the same person though
http://www.klue.com.my/classifieds/9906 http://www.mysimplifieds.com/new-kia-forte...edium=klueshare I've emailed him asking when available..waiting for reply now =P |
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i have asked so many kia SA till now no one can confirm date of launching. my fav color would the the clear white of coz. but of coz white color it's very hard to maintain. i guess hv to wash car 2 times per week, wax every month and polish every 6months.
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Aug 27 2009, 10:38 AM
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I'm looking forward to see the Metallic Blue...damn smexy
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Aug 27 2009, 10:41 AM
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i would happy to have the black one.
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Aug 27 2009, 01:43 PM
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Hi Skybar,
"This car is hard to maintain?" Which sg forum are u referring to? Would like to know what issue it has? Realiability? Spare parts? Service? Thanks |
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Aug 27 2009, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(leongwk15 @ Aug 27 2009, 01:43 PM) Hi Skybar, what i meant is white color hard to maintain. everytime after rain can see spots on yr car body."This car is hard to maintain?" Which sg forum are u referring to? Would like to know what issue it has? Realiability? Spare parts? Service? Thanks |
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Aug 27 2009, 04:15 PM
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OIC,
Good to know is only the white colour and not the car itself I misunderstood and thaught that this car is physically in term of engine maintenance. So, what others finding about this car? I mean any others problem that we should take note? |
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Aug 27 2009, 04:48 PM
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if raining season, you need to wash your car everyday, unless can u "tahan" the dirty spot on your car.
white colour is freaking hard to keep it clean @@ i will not take white color anymore for my next car!! p/s: although white colour is the best colour compare to other colour. |
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Aug 27 2009, 09:08 PM
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QUOTE(Vannus @ Aug 27 2009, 03:18 AM) Poison. Poison. Sorry to the toyota altis in front. Comparing looks, will get this beauty next year...hope this november already posting to schooll..huu
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Aug 29 2009, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE(madman20 @ Aug 27 2009, 10:31 AM) Hmm..2 more adverts posted on KLue KLassifieds and mySimplifieds...both are the same person though bos, any news?http://www.klue.com.my/classifieds/9906 http://www.mysimplifieds.com/new-kia-forte...edium=klueshare I've emailed him asking when available..waiting for reply now =P |
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Aug 30 2009, 01:06 AM
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QUOTE(hAnn @ Aug 29 2009, 11:41 PM) bos, any news? Unfortunately, no reply from the person =/ |
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Aug 30 2009, 01:10 AM
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Wanna trade in my wira as well for this .. ^^
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Aug 30 2009, 01:25 AM
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QUOTE(Vannus @ Aug 30 2009, 01:10 AM) Wanna trade in my wira as well for this .. ^^ Planning to do the same..just wondering..which wira model are you driving? I'm driving the 1.3Gli..hope to get a high trade-in value =S |
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Aug 30 2009, 11:45 AM
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Wira SE 1.5GLi. ^^ year 04..low trade in I think. RM23k -25k
But I enough edi with my wira. ^^ even though it's cheap to maintain. Want to get this gaya car for a good price. |
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Aug 30 2009, 07:05 PM
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Oh..at least better value than mine..nevertheless..I also abit tired with mine already..since 2002.. =S
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Aug 31 2009, 07:44 PM
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No news on this recently?
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Aug 31 2009, 07:49 PM
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naza wait gov take out the import duty, so baru can fight proton ~
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Aug 31 2009, 08:46 PM
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Nothing on my end as well =/
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Sep 1 2009, 08:01 AM
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QUOTE(ryan man @ Aug 31 2009, 07:44 PM) No news on this recently? Perhaps it is delayed due to pending NAP announcement. |
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Sep 1 2009, 10:07 AM
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the main reason behind the delay is the over stock spectra 5. just saw 1 silver forte SG plat at NKVE yesterday. damn chun. worth to wait.
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Sep 1 2009, 10:13 AM
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not only spectra5, normal spectra LS oso have to sell finish ..i think spectra5 almost finish already ..but LS might still have alot
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Sep 1 2009, 10:15 AM
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anyone actually pay the deposit for forte?
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Sep 1 2009, 10:42 AM
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gosh pls launch faster.... my current car is dying
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Sep 1 2009, 11:14 AM
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wah... if remove import tax.. then.. can sell even lower liao issit... think this will soon become national car... haaa...
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Sep 1 2009, 01:42 PM
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waiting for the official price and release date..if <70k is good for a 1.6L car..
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Sep 1 2009, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(phelix @ Sep 1 2009, 10:15 AM) anyone actually pay the deposit for forte? don't dare to pay deposit as no one can confirm the price yet. if price at rm80k i would rather buy honda city. |
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Sep 1 2009, 05:02 PM
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Yes better to wait for the actual price released before booking.
Also, it is advisable to view the car 1st as they maybe some changes or less in accesories for Malaysian models, as usual. From Paul Tan's website, it is stated that the Forte will be using the same engine as the Spectra 5. Is this good or bad? |
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Sep 1 2009, 05:11 PM
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engine same as spectra5? hehe...got 2.0 version ? my 1.6 feels abit heavy.
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Sep 1 2009, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE(skybar @ Sep 1 2009, 04:12 PM) don't dare to pay deposit as no one can confirm the price yet. if price at rm80k i would rather buy honda city. the sales mentioned if the car price is higher u can choose to get full refund. |
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Sep 1 2009, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE(phelix @ Sep 1 2009, 05:25 PM) the sales mentioned if the car price is higher u can choose to get full refund. even if they can give full refund but still hv to go through many procedures. dun want go through so many procedures. |
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Sep 1 2009, 06:55 PM
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why would u want a naza/kia car when u got toyota/honda/nissan/mazda/mitsu to choose? i reli dun understand u lo. lol.. this forte looks like a copy of honda civic.. even the rim also same as 2.0 civic
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Sep 1 2009, 07:06 PM
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Not everyone is into those Jap cars =/
It may be a copy, but it is much cheaper and it much more practical..loads of reviews on the net says this car is really matching up with the above mentioned brands..in fact..those Japs were warned to watch their backs |
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Sep 1 2009, 07:51 PM
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i am looking for mazda 6 2.5 actually... or might be a Audi A4..
so before i actually can get that car i'm looking for a cheap and nice car to drive for few years... forte is the best option for now... RM70k i have no burden at all can even reduce the repayment year to 3 years. swift is good but is too small for me. |
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Sep 1 2009, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE(madman20 @ Sep 1 2009, 07:06 PM) Not everyone is into those Jap cars =/ CBU is definitely good i think..but NAZA is the main problem here..It may be a copy, but it is much cheaper and it much more practical..loads of reviews on the net says this car is really matching up with the above mentioned brands..in fact..those Japs were warned to watch their backs |
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Sep 2 2009, 01:32 AM
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QUOTE(law1777 @ Sep 1 2009, 06:55 PM) why would u want a naza/kia car when u got toyota/honda/nissan/mazda/mitsu to choose? i reli dun understand u lo. lol.. this forte looks like a copy of honda civic.. even the rim also same as 2.0 civic lets say if the price is right <70kwhy would u wanna go for a b-segment car for more than 80k while u can get a c-segment for less than 70k? kia is not that bad afterall  which i seriously hope they will be even betterAdded on September 2, 2009, 1:33 amthe only thing u wanna think of will be the resale value. tho resale value is based on the market This post has been edited by jimmy.soo: Sep 2 2009, 01:33 AM |
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Sep 2 2009, 08:21 AM
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My main concern is the engine power of 1.6cc. Will it be underpowered or just good enough? Launching the 1.6cc will makes its price more competetive. Kia is selling Forte 2.0cc in Singapore. Better do a test drive once its launched.
NAZA has killed itself for the past few years, hopefully they have learned their lesson and hope Forte will bring back them alive. I just hope KIA move in and handle their car themselves. This will definetly be very much better than NAZA. |
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Sep 2 2009, 08:47 AM
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QUOTE(law1777 @ Sep 1 2009, 06:55 PM) why would u want a naza/kia car when u got toyota/honda/nissan/mazda/mitsu to choose? i reli dun understand u lo. lol.. this forte looks like a copy of honda civic.. even the rim also same as 2.0 civic Korean makes hv really come a long way compared to 10yrs ago. Despite the negative feedbacks on them, u still cant deny d progress they hv made compared to our 'jaguh kampung'.Car designs n looks r not much different from each other now n is basically a subjective matter. U might as well mention why clothing designs by different makers are more or less d same case especially those that follow d trend? No offence but mayb some guys might say ur gf/wife is even you insist she's |
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Sep 2 2009, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE(leongwk15 @ Sep 2 2009, 08:21 AM) My main concern is the engine power of 1.6cc. Will it be underpowered or just good enough? Launching the 1.6cc will makes its price more competetive. Kia is selling Forte 2.0cc in Singapore. Better do a test drive once its launched. erhmmmm for the power, maybe u can take the sentra 1.6 as an example... sentral 1.6 still ok lor, a little bit underpoweredNAZA has killed itself for the past few years, hopefully they have learned their lesson and hope Forte will bring back them alive. I just hope KIA move in and handle their car themselves. This will definetly be very much better than NAZA. but when u step the pedal to metal, its quite nice also when the engine roars |
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Sep 2 2009, 10:33 AM
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I do agree with you, taking Sentra as an example. 1.6cc should be fine for normal driving. What is the weight of the 1.6cc Forte? I can't get any info from their website.
So, now, the biggest questions is 1) When is the launching? 2) Any sneak preview? 3) Why our car writter is keeping silent about this car? The only thing I got is from Paul Tan which is also a basic review. 4) What would be the launching price? Regards. |
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Sep 3 2009, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(leongwk15 @ Sep 2 2009, 10:33 AM) I do agree with you, taking Sentra as an example. 1.6cc should be fine for normal driving. What is the weight of the 1.6cc Forte? I can't get any info from their website. hi, all some update.. So, now, the biggest questions is 1) When is the launching? 2) Any sneak preview? 3) Why our car writter is keeping silent about this car? The only thing I got is from Paul Tan which is also a basic review. 4) What would be the launching price? Regards. driving 1.6 here in sg, hmm... not exactly powerful but not underpower at all... comparing to Waja.. its pretty similar... but only concern is this car really like to cruise... otherwise ..FC suffer to like 10l/100km.. (start stop) so.. think not that good for city driving... in highway.. it could reach 7-8l/100km easily.. here to share... KOUP is LAUNCHING.. in SG too... now... and not very far diff in $$$... those likes 2 doors should keep a look out for it... launch photos.. http://www.ceratoforte.sg/general-discussion-for-forte-owners-f2/hot-kia-road-show-vivo-kia-koup-t1341-50.htm#53831 KouP! site |
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Sep 3 2009, 01:28 PM
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sigh, SGP is just beside us and yet we're unable to get the forte and koup
so sad... |
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Sep 3 2009, 01:53 PM
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[quote=jimmy.soo,Sep 3 2009, 01:28 PM]
sigh, SGP is just beside us and yet we're unable to get the forte and koup so sad...[/qu that what we call MSIA BOLEH , BN BOLEH , NAZA BOLEH!! |
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Sep 3 2009, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(Burgerlim @ Sep 3 2009, 11:39 AM) hi, all some update.. Thanks for the info.driving 1.6 here in sg, hmm... not exactly powerful but not underpower at all... comparing to Waja.. its pretty similar... but only concern is this car really like to cruise... otherwise ..FC suffer to like 10l/100km.. (start stop) so.. think not that good for city driving... in highway.. it could reach 7-8l/100km easily.. here to share... KOUP is LAUNCHING.. in SG too... now... and not very far diff in $$$... those likes 2 doors should keep a look out for it... launch photos.. http://www.ceratoforte.sg/general-discussion-for-forte-owners-f2/hot-kia-road-show-vivo-kia-koup-t1341-50.htm#53831 KouP! site Could you furnish me, in cruise mode what is the RPM for 100km/h and 120km/h? What is the mileage of your car now? FC 10l/100km. Maybe it will be better once is driven thru. Any other complain or problem about this car? Does your Forte comes in full spec? Like keyless ? I hope KIA Malaysia will bring in the full spec and not the lowest spec. Normally Singapore has better spec like Leather seat and so on. |
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Sep 3 2009, 02:31 PM
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Oh wow...they already have the Koup there?! Shiaaaaaaaaaattt
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Sep 3 2009, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(Burgerlim @ Sep 3 2009, 11:39 AM) hi, all some update.. thanks for the info.. wonderful car...driving 1.6 here in sg, hmm... not exactly powerful but not underpower at all... comparing to Waja.. its pretty similar... but only concern is this car really like to cruise... otherwise ..FC suffer to like 10l/100km.. (start stop) so.. think not that good for city driving... in highway.. it could reach 7-8l/100km easily.. here to share... KOUP is LAUNCHING.. in SG too... now... and not very far diff in $$$... those likes 2 doors should keep a look out for it... launch photos.. http://www.ceratoforte.sg/general-discussion-for-forte-owners-f2/hot-kia-road-show-vivo-kia-koup-t1341-50.htm#53831 KouP! site even though alot of ppl say copy this copy that.. still a wonderful car.. QUOTE(leongwk15 @ Sep 3 2009, 02:14 PM) Thanks for the info. i guess we should be able to get only low spec.. full spec... just koup 2.0... according to paultan...Could you furnish me, in cruise mode what is the RPM for 100km/h and 120km/h? What is the mileage of your car now? FC 10l/100km. Maybe it will be better once is driven thru. Any other complain or problem about this car? Does your Forte comes in full spec? Like keyless ? I hope KIA Malaysia will bring in the full spec and not the lowest spec. Normally Singapore has better spec like Leather seat and so on. QUOTE Last I heard, Forte 4-door will be offered as a CKD 1.6, Forte Koup as a CBU 2.0 but things may have changed now. |
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Sep 4 2009, 06:25 PM
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Low spec?Well..as long the price is right.. =/
And I hope they do not take away too much from the standard accesories |
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Sep 7 2009, 12:30 AM
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QUOTE(leongwk15 @ Sep 3 2009, 02:14 PM) Thanks for the info. hi, there.. Could you furnish me, in cruise mode what is the RPM for 100km/h and 120km/h? What is the mileage of your car now? FC 10l/100km. Maybe it will be better once is driven thru. Any other complain or problem about this car? Does your Forte comes in full spec? Like keyless ? I hope KIA Malaysia will bring in the full spec and not the lowest spec. Normally Singapore has better spec like Leather seat and so on. 1. at 100 its ~2.6k (still run in..) so never over 120yet... IIRC 3K AT 100 for Manual 2. <1000, yes... FC improves as we drive in.. to about 5-6k clocked.. avg 8.5l/100km now.. 3. only complain so far is the sound proofing, could have been better.. (top calss avante.. still edge out slightly..) but its still very quiet in cruising... 4. Full specs? mind SX so with better specs but nope.. no push start.. (only LHD) but latest model may have (koup comes with that) but at 1k SGD extra..!! other specs v.good (can forget about vios / city too) ESC (ABS, CBC, EDB etc... ), 17", 6 dics console.. 4 disc brake.. climate a/c, heated mirror, EC rear view mirror, MDPS... all in.. HTH.. Added on September 7, 2009, 12:34 amI seriously dun think forte is copying anything... thought it looks similar in to Civic Type R coupe.. but copying? i dun think peter sch.. would... on his reputation and ability... This post has been edited by Burgerlim: Sep 7 2009, 12:59 AM |
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Sep 7 2009, 08:49 AM
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When are they going to release this car, from SG saw 1 silver with BK, damm nice arrr...damm you naza faster release this car.
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Sep 7 2009, 10:15 AM
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Saw 1 too in Ipoh, maroon colour frm SG, damn nice.....First glance, thought it was Evo with luxury looks lol
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Sep 7 2009, 10:30 AM
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Naza is a sore losser la, scared after release this car will affect spectra old stock sales, local proton pesona, and want to protect honda and toyota sales? damm la, faster release this, we as "rakyat" want the best. Be like SG, the best will prevail. This is what we call fair competition what.
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Sep 7 2009, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE(Vannus @ Sep 7 2009, 08:49 AM) When are they going to release this car, from SG saw 1 silver with BK, damm nice arrr...damm you naza faster release this car. yeah can't wait to get one as in for now is the best for my budget and looking.
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Sep 7 2009, 11:39 AM
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anyway this car how also looks better than city,vios,pesona, on par with civic and lancer i think.
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Sep 7 2009, 01:10 PM
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This car looks awesome! THe rear taillights remind me of Audi A4
Yes,this car looks good ! But really have to sit in the car and feel it . And its still just a KIa,nowadays,ppl are very concerned about the important badge.You know,ppl feel proud owning a H or T or M badge. So unless Kia or Naza can price this beauty at a super super price,I still dont see many people getting it. |
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Sep 7 2009, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Sep 7 2009, 01:10 PM) This car looks awesome! THe rear taillights remind me of Audi A4 i hv seen this car in kl twice and i can say it's totally awesome. if naza were to sell this car below rm70k surely i would be tempted to book 1 unit.Yes,this car looks good ! But really have to sit in the car and feel it . And its still just a KIa,nowadays,ppl are very concerned about the important badge.You know,ppl feel proud owning a H or T or M badge. So unless Kia or Naza can price this beauty at a super super price,I still dont see many people getting it. |
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Sep 7 2009, 02:06 PM
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Wow..the bodykit is really nice..and yeah..even the lowest spec at below 70k..I think it is still worth it..save abit..get the same body kit..
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Sep 7 2009, 05:55 PM
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If rm6xk for 1.6sx version, then drive this car to SG to install the beutiful Bodykit. I read somewhere it's around 600sgd that is less than rm1.5k. Good value for a gorgeous car.
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Sep 7 2009, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE(Vannus @ Sep 7 2009, 05:55 PM) If rm6xk for 1.6sx version, then drive this car to SG to install the beutiful Bodykit. I read somewhere it's around 600sgd that is less than rm1.5k. Good value for a gorgeous car. So when are you going to buy one?? |
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Sep 7 2009, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE(Vannus @ Sep 7 2009, 05:55 PM) If rm6xk for 1.6sx version, then drive this car to SG to install the beutiful Bodykit. I read somewhere it's around 600sgd that is less than rm1.5k. Good value for a gorgeous car. Lol..but gotta consider the incidentals spent to go there..petrol..hotel/place to stay...food and drinks =P |
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i hear Naza will bring new car next year..
Not forte, but latest PICANTO thats is good news, because forte will sell in malaysia under KIA badge This post has been edited by ardhawk: Sep 7 2009, 08:33 PM |
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Sep 7 2009, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE(ardhawk @ Sep 7 2009, 08:22 PM) i hear Naza will bring new car next year.. i dont care it is under which brand . Not forte, but latest PICANTO thats is good news, because forte will sell in malaysia under KIA badge |
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QUOTE(ardhawk @ Sep 7 2009, 08:22 PM) i hear Naza will bring new car next year.. Not forte, but latest PICANTO thats is good news, because forte will sell in malaysia under KIA badge QUOTE(limbu @ Sep 7 2009, 08:43 PM) i dont care it is under which brand . For me Kia badge looks nicer..since only 3 letter..Naza's 4 letter seem to look abit too cramp and the letters are slightly smaller =PNevertheless..whichever it is badged under..doesn't matter to me..bwaahahaha |
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Sep 8 2009, 10:44 AM
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the car havent launch yet ?
i think the price will be over 70K ...coz when new RONDO( rm 80K +) launched, citra 80K+ down to 65K then now spectra5 rm 77K down to 60K ....i think FORTE might be around 75K |
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QUOTE(bobbychin @ Sep 8 2009, 10:44 AM) the car havent launch yet ? i think most probably naza will come out with 2 versions. 1 with full spec and the other basic model. all SA also guarantee price won't exceed rm80k.i think the price will be over 70K ...coz when new RONDO( rm 80K +) launched, citra 80K+ down to 65K then now spectra5 rm 77K down to 60K ....i think FORTE might be around 75K |
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Sep 8 2009, 11:30 AM
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75k still acceptable for me..
i can't wait to get one.. once it launch... i'll book on first day... Naza.. u hear me?? LOL |
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QUOTE(dARKaNGEl @ May 11 2009, 12:47 AM) Rumour is that Forte might come in 3rd quarter of the year and heard pricing might be around 75K. eh 75k? it's freaking cheap. what's the cubic capacity for this car?As for Kia Ceed, not sure. I haven't seen any Ceed in S'pore too. |
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QUOTE(shah_ho_nam @ Sep 8 2009, 11:38 AM) eh 75k? it's freaking cheap. what's the cubic capacity for this car? naza will only launch the 1.6l model for sedan in m'sia. but in SG u can get the 2.0l model and the koup model also just launched. damn everything is slow here. |
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Sep 8 2009, 12:54 PM
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so confirmed naza will bring this in instead of KIA right?
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Sep 8 2009, 01:20 PM
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hmm sry newbie here . this car better then vios or city /? since the price range also same...tq
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Sep 8 2009, 01:24 PM
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i'm driving spectra5 1.6 , can we import then 2.0 engine and modify it here? 2.0 can race with VW GTI?
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Sep 8 2009, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE(nagflar @ Sep 8 2009, 01:20 PM) hmm sry newbie here . this car better then vios or city /? since the price range also same...tq in term of look and features, forte are better, but not so sure about the fuel consumption compare to vios. |
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Sep 8 2009, 01:28 PM
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well same price, but totally different category
vios/city is b-segment while this is c-segment |
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Sep 8 2009, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE(bobbychin @ Sep 8 2009, 01:24 PM) i'm driving spectra5 1.6 , can we import then 2.0 engine and modify it here? 2.0 can race with VW GTI? vw gti 2.0l got turbo...2.0l na sure lose |
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Sep 8 2009, 01:43 PM
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I do believe Vios will have a better FC.
That is why if KIA is serious of a come back. It should be priced below RM70K. Or else, not many will take the risk to buy this car. |
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Sep 8 2009, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE(amduser @ Sep 8 2009, 01:26 PM) in term of look and features, forte are better, but not so sure about the fuel consumption compare to vios. according to the SG forum most forte owners claim their car can reach 11km/ltr-13km/ltr. so i don't think the FC is a main issue here only the price. forte FC click this link to get more info.Added on September 8, 2009, 2:03 pm QUOTE(jimmy.soo @ Sep 8 2009, 12:54 PM) so confirmed naza will bring this in instead of KIA right? naza is the sole distributor for kia in m'sia. whether they would change to naza forte that one i can't confirm.This post has been edited by skybar: Sep 8 2009, 02:03 PM |
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Sep 8 2009, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE(leongwk15 @ Sep 8 2009, 01:43 PM) I do believe Vios will have a better FC. bit by bit.. i dun think Vios is anywhere close to this car.. Tested both before buying into this MIK... space / spec / size / look out and in / features, you name it... That is why if KIA is serious of a come back. It should be priced below RM70K. Or else, not many will take the risk to buy this car. Altis yes and no... as many pointed out its C-seg.. in most car review.. this car is targeting on Civic, M3, Nissan... and Corolla (altis).. HTH... yes FC not better then vios / city but lets not forget its on 17" rims 205/215 - 45 profile, i am getting 7.5l/100km now / 13.3km/l (80/20% H/C) which i think is fantastic for a 1.25t car with 17" wheel... those Ex users here (in SG) could manage 6.xl/100km which is on par if not better... much much less busy driving... (aka far more quiet)... at least here.. since AD will have say in term of insulation level. in SG the car price is steadily going up (COE contributes too) and think its still selling like hot cakes... from 43k to 49k liao... still people buying over... personally prefer Mz3 but.. price is another 18k more! haaa... HTH... Added on September 8, 2009, 4:57 pm QUOTE(Vannus @ Sep 7 2009, 05:55 PM) If rm6xk for 1.6sx version, then drive this car to SG to install the beutiful Bodykit. I read somewhere it's around 600sgd that is less than rm1.5k. Good value for a gorgeous car. Hi, Brothe Standard BK on forte is from AD and it claim to be 1.5k SGD! haaa... i dun think at this time you could get it at 600SGD... we original buyer still waiting for the installation like hell... like 4-5mths backlog... This post has been edited by Burgerlim: Sep 8 2009, 04:57 PM |
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Sep 8 2009, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE(Burgerlim @ Sep 8 2009, 04:55 PM) bit by bit.. i dun think Vios is anywhere close to this car.. Tested both before buying into this MIK... space / spec / size / look out and in / features, you name it... walao~Altis yes and no... as many pointed out its C-seg.. in most car review.. this car is targeting on Civic, M3, Nissan... and Corolla (altis).. HTH... yes FC not better then vios / city but lets not forget its on 17" rims 205/215 - 45 profile, i am getting 7.5l/100km now / 13.3km/l (80/20% H/C) which i think is fantastic for a 1.25t car with 17" wheel... those Ex users here (in SG) could manage 6.xl/100km which is on par if not better... much much less busy driving... (aka far more quiet)... at least here.. since AD will have say in term of insulation level. in SG the car price is steadily going up (COE contributes too) and think its still selling like hot cakes... from 43k to 49k liao... still people buying over... personally prefer Mz3 but.. price is another 18k more! haaa... HTH... Added on September 8, 2009, 4:57 pm Hi, Bro the Standard BK on forte is from AD and it claim to be 1.5k SGD! haaa... i dun think at this time you could get it at 600SGD... we original buyer still waiting for the installation like hell... like 4-5mths backlog... i just back from SG.. went to orchard, Jurong and Bkt. Batok area but doesn't have the chance the see a Forte OTR... too bad... i did see alot of 2008 M3 and some 2010 M3... 1.5k SGD and waiting for 4 - 5 months?? Kia singapore can do better than this right? |
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Sep 8 2009, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(xshiro @ Sep 8 2009, 01:32 PM) vw gti 2.0l got turbo...2.0l na sure lose after put in 2.0 engine add turbo lo ..coz the car is designed to fit in 2.0 engine ma,sure got space for turbo.Added on September 8, 2009, 5:23 pm QUOTE(nagflar @ Sep 8 2009, 01:20 PM) hmm sry newbie here . this car better then vios or city /? since the price range also same...tq this car cannot compared with vios or city. if compared with altis then better. for the same price i think you'll only get Spec J vios, which basically is "kosong" coz no accessories or safety features. Just the vios body and engine. I would presume this kinda car is just as good as proton saga.Korean cars are giving more attention on safety, but the FC will surely higher coz its heavy after putting in all kinda equipments for safety and comfort. This post has been edited by bobbychin: Sep 8 2009, 05:23 PM |
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Sep 8 2009, 05:32 PM
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Does anyone has any inside tips on what kind of specs we will get. We always get watered down specs compared to other country.
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Sep 8 2009, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE(phelix @ Sep 8 2009, 05:10 PM) walao~ Aiyaa..should've gone to their showroom =Pi just back from SG.. went to orchard, Jurong and Bkt. Batok area but doesn't have the chance the see a Forte OTR... too bad... i did see alot of 2008 M3 and some 2010 M3... 1.5k SGD and waiting for 4 - 5 months?? Kia singapore can do better than this right? QUOTE(killdavid @ Sep 8 2009, 05:32 PM) Does anyone has any inside tips on what kind of specs we will get. We always get watered down specs compared to other country. Yeah..I wonder how "toned-down" our specs are =S |
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Sep 8 2009, 08:22 PM
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QUOTE(phelix @ Sep 8 2009, 05:10 PM) walao~ yup. unfortunately the bodykit is not from KIA, but 3rd party.. they screwed up on the gov approval.. causing re-mold and now they got backlog like 4 to 5 months... !!i just back from SG.. went to orchard, Jurong and Bkt. Batok area but doesn't have the chance the see a Forte OTR... too bad... i did see alot of 2008 M3 and some 2010 M3... 1.5k SGD and waiting for 4 - 5 months?? Kia singapore can do better than this right? after all these while waiting.. i sianz half and thinking of selling it off when i got it.. since forte is so nice too without the bodykit... its not a racing car afterall.... |
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Sep 9 2009, 08:34 AM
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QUOTE(Burgerlim @ Sep 8 2009, 08:22 PM) yup. unfortunately the bodykit is not from KIA, but 3rd party.. they screwed up on the gov approval.. causing re-mold and now they got backlog like 4 to 5 months... !! Hi Burgerlim,after all these while waiting.. i sianz half and thinking of selling it off when i got it.. since forte is so nice too without the bodykit... its not a racing car afterall.... Any chance of taking some photo of your Cerato, especially the interior? V would like to know what specs or goodies Spore Cerato is getting? Everybody here in Msia is having a guessing game about the interior. Thank you. |
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Sep 9 2009, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(leongwk15 @ Sep 9 2009, 08:34 AM) Hi Burgerlim, bro.. No problemsAny chance of taking some photo of your Cerato, especially the interior? V would like to know what specs or goodies Spore Cerato is getting? Everybody here in Msia is having a guessing game about the interior. Thank you. No need to take mine.. see this.. ceratofortebrightsilver and many more here.. New interior.. Even more here.. Many more here... Hope these helps, btw, sg forte keeps getting better.. (poor us current owner) with newest batch confirm come with push button! haaaa.. and new interiors too.. with much better / softer interior.. initial version all comes in hard plastic.. so depending on NAZA.?  Hope these helps. This post has been edited by Burgerlim: Sep 9 2009, 11:28 AM |
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Sep 9 2009, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE(Burgerlim @ Sep 9 2009, 11:28 AM) bro.. No problems Don't think V (Msian) here gets such goodies like your Spore version. Especially it is going to be assembled by NAZA. JUst look at Rondo, 2nd row seat is not a 60:40 foldable. So its pretty hard for ppl to align and get out of 3rd row. Real KIA ROndo has 60:40 foldable seat.No need to take mine.. see this.. ceratofortebrightsilver and many more here.. New interior.. Even more here.. Many more here... Hope these helps, btw, sg forte keeps getting better.. (poor us current owner) with newest batch confirm come with push button! haaaa.. and new interiors too.. with much better / softer interior.. initial version all comes in hard plastic.. so depending on NAZA.? Hope these helps. |
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Sep 9 2009, 11:49 AM
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I would say pay more attention to the car safety equip like ESC / AB and Brakes etc.... which by nature is very hard to MOD...
anyway for interiors there are just too many aftermarket to spice up.. so... |
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Sep 9 2009, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(Burgerlim @ Sep 9 2009, 11:28 AM) bro.. No problems Nice No need to take mine.. see this.. ceratofortebrightsilver and many more here.. New interior.. Even more here.. Many more here... Hope these helps, btw, sg forte keeps getting better.. (poor us current owner) with newest batch confirm come with push button! haaaa.. and new interiors too.. with much better / softer interior.. initial version all comes in hard plastic.. so depending on NAZA.? Hope these helps. Cerato come standard with hid headlight and led? |
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Sep 9 2009, 12:22 PM
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of course.. those are MOD lor... as you can see.. this car is very very poisonous...
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Sep 9 2009, 01:25 PM
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I would like to see the original spec such original dashboard when KIA deliver the car. Not those who make modification and add on.
It will be good if there is photo of the original spec. |
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Sep 9 2009, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE(Burgerlim @ Sep 9 2009, 12:22 PM) of course.. those are MOD lor... as you can see.. this car is very very poisonous... bro u can check from singapore kia's website... |
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Sep 9 2009, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(leongwk15 @ Sep 9 2009, 01:25 PM) I would like to see the original spec such original dashboard when KIA deliver the car. Not those who make modification and add on. Bro, its all there.. the silver car BK is standard from SG AD too.. and the interior is original.. It will be good if there is photo of the original spec. for original.. you may follow the 3rd link... So.... |
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Sep 9 2009, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE(Burgerlim @ Sep 9 2009, 01:42 PM) Bro, its all there.. the silver car BK is standard from SG AD too.. and the interior is original.. Thanks alot. U guys r lucky to have the Forte 1st than Msia.for original.. you may follow the 3rd link... So.... Could please just update us any problem (if any) such as NVH and so on? Also, the FC, any imrovement from week to week as your car is doing more mileage and run in. Thanks. |
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Sep 9 2009, 05:59 PM
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No worries bro, M'sia will get it eventually..
Certainly.... NVH? Superb for the class... is all i would say (despite early batches comes with more minor problems.)... only picking now is the slight engine noise.. also the electronics design is a little weird sometimes...(no issue just get to know) which if could be lowered then its a perfect value car!!! before 1k it was like 8.5l/100km (super light footed...) now after its like 7.5l/100km... (80HW/20C) yes! its > 13km/l max out on highway.. i could reach 6.5l/100km (travelling NSHW i think.. ) so.. really no complains in FC dept... MIJ should really rush back to the design table.. now.. haaa. |
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Sep 9 2009, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE(Burgerlim @ Sep 9 2009, 11:49 AM) I would say pay more attention to the car safety equip like ESC / AB and Brakes etc.... This is why there are some complaints over here in Australia that the basic S model should have all the electronic stuff as standard instead of an option pack. Nevertheless, I think some of these complaints are overboard as the lower spec Japanese rivals also don't come with the full electronic kits. I personally feel that the Forte looks uglier with the body kits because it loses the sleek and elegance look and becomes more ah beng. Waiting for the Koup to arrive in Australia... still hesitant to get the radical-looking Mazda 3 despite having a better ride and 5-speed auto. Oh yeah... post pics of your Forte!! This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Sep 9 2009, 06:38 PM |
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Sep 9 2009, 10:58 PM
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wow... nice TV Ad.
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Sep 10 2009, 08:11 AM
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There is so much advertisement and good review for this Forte.
Hope it is really that good or compartable to Japanese made. The main problem from Spore owner is windscreen cracked but KIA confirmed those were the 1st bacth. Other than that, nothing much except the FC. |
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Sep 10 2009, 09:49 AM
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if FC is of the main concern really.. then one should be looking at the avg usage of Forte.. for City driving expect about 9~10l/100km... pretty decent i would say..
but if you cruise on highway alot.. then..viola.. Forte match every MIJ brands on the same level.. but please dun compare to Vios directly.. its different cat other then the price... i think.. Vios.. <1ton... ppl here tested Forte for 180km! stable..in stock condition. Hope this helps.. bro leong |
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Sep 10 2009, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(Burgerlim @ Sep 10 2009, 09:49 AM) if FC is of the main concern really.. then one should be looking at the avg usage of Forte.. for City driving expect about 9~10l/100km... pretty decent i would say.. You are rite!!but if you cruise on highway alot.. then..viola.. Forte match every MIJ brands on the same level.. but please dun compare to Vios directly.. its different cat other then the price... i think.. Vios.. <1ton... ppl here tested Forte for 180km! stable..in stock condition. Hope this helps.. bro leong MIJ entry cars nowadays is very light to achieve very good FC. For example Spectra 5 (Forte not availble yet in Msia) hood cover and door is much heavier and solid than my Vios. Korea made car is more solid and heavy which is good for safety. What is the weight of Cerato 1.6cc? Is Cerato 1.6cc engine same as Spectra 5 1.6cc engine? Msia salemans says its the same engine. I was think Cerato is using newer engine. Regards. |
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Sep 10 2009, 11:45 AM
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nope.. its a newly re-tuned.. added some power more smooth.. core the same lar.. just like toyota.. altis engine block is 10~20years old..!
forte is about 1250kg.. |
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Sep 10 2009, 12:03 PM
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Eh..if I'm not mistaken..it's still using the same Spectra5 engine for the 1.6..but retuned..
Only the 2.0 and 2.4 is using a totally new engine?o_O |
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Sep 10 2009, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE(Burgerlim @ Sep 10 2009, 11:45 AM) nope.. its a newly re-tuned.. added some power more smooth.. core the same lar.. just like toyota.. altis engine block is 10~20years old..! what do you mean by retune?forte is about 1250kg.. probably can you provide the differences |
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Sep 10 2009, 01:00 PM
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i believe what he meant is its using the same old engine with some tuning to make it smoother in terms of acceleration
same old 1.6l engine.... hmmm but 1 weird thing is, spectra with the same engine sucks petrol like nobody's business while this dont? maybe because of the tuning? |
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Sep 10 2009, 01:32 PM
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that was the old spectra engine....spectra5 actually using Hyundai elentra's 1.6 engine. upgraded with CVVT version.
even the platform is same with elentra. KIA and Hyundai shares alot of things. |
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Sep 10 2009, 01:45 PM
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yup.. same chassis / same engine fundamental even produce in the same factory! heee...
CVVT 1.6 retuned.. to have better power, better curve.. torque.. etc... cos while we generally mentioned engine, there are many components that could makes it a better unit... 124PS is not all, it has to be drivable.. CVVT is another Tech that makes it more Economical... not too sure if old elantra comes with that.. though... |
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Sep 10 2009, 01:59 PM
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ooh... so in 1 word it shares the same engine with spectra 5 the one that comes with CVVT
and they retuned it to become better responsive. hmm like that ok what, not that bad afterall |
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Sep 10 2009, 02:37 PM
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From the KIA Cerato Spore forum,
It seems that the Spectra 5 is using Gamma 1 engine and Cerato is using Gamma 2 engine, which is newer. Is this true? |
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Sep 10 2009, 02:38 PM
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the current engine with 121Ps is quite ok, can accelerate fast if really step on the pedal. but under normal condition, acceleration is okok onli, depends on driver i would say..want more power step in it more and burn more money.
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Sep 10 2009, 03:05 PM
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Newbee here ... hope they bring in CBU 2.0 at elantra price 93k. Will choose over mazda3 despite lesser handling.
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Sep 10 2009, 03:57 PM
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actually naza not only holding forte, they also hold the launching of Kia Soul.
Forte or Soul?? anyone? |
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Sep 10 2009, 05:08 PM
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the forte i would say its almost confirm, u can search through the website and u will find lots of ppl talking bout its launching. Naza is actually waiting for the right timing to do the launching for forte. But as for soul, i think still gonna wait for a longer time.
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Sep 10 2009, 05:19 PM
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of course its confirmed, just dunno when is the right time they will launch it only
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Sep 10 2009, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE(leongwk15 @ Sep 10 2009, 02:37 PM) From the KIA Cerato Spore forum, i think 1.6 version is BETA II engine. Gamma engine is 2.0 versionIt seems that the Spectra 5 is using Gamma 1 engine and Cerato is using Gamma 2 engine, which is newer. Is this true? |
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Sep 10 2009, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE(jimmy.soo @ Sep 10 2009, 01:00 PM) i believe what he meant is its using the same old engine with some tuning to make it smoother in terms of acceleration Don't confuse yourself with Spectra and Spectra5 engines..both are totally different engines like bobbychin mention belowsame old 1.6l engine.... hmmm but 1 weird thing is, spectra with the same engine sucks petrol like nobody's business while this dont? maybe because of the tuning? QUOTE(bobbychin @ Sep 10 2009, 01:32 PM) that was the old spectra engine....spectra5 actually using Hyundai elentra's 1.6 engine. upgraded with CVVT version. even the platform is same with elentra. KIA and Hyundai shares alot of things. QUOTE(leongwk15 @ Sep 10 2009, 02:37 PM) From the KIA Cerato Spore forum, Yeah..Gamma I if I'm not mistakenIt seems that the Spectra 5 is using Gamma 1 engine and Cerato is using Gamma 2 engine, which is newer. Is this true? |
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Sep 10 2009, 06:12 PM
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So, confirm Forte is using Gamma 2.0 engine same as Spectra 5 but with tuned up to achieve power and better FC?
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Sep 10 2009, 09:32 PM
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Anyone know if Forte will have manual transmission for Malaysia market?
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Sep 10 2009, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE(Shinichi @ Sep 10 2009, 09:32 PM) Anyone know if Forte will have manual transmission for Malaysia market? I hope they will have the manual..even if there isn't much included with the trim..if can get the car to replace my current wira i'll be happy =p |
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Sep 10 2009, 11:17 PM
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i dont think it will come with manual trasmission... doubt about that
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Sep 11 2009, 04:15 AM
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QUOTE(jimmy.soo @ Sep 10 2009, 11:17 PM) i dont think it will come with manual trasmission... doubt about that ohh ..i prefer manual than auto |
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Sep 11 2009, 08:25 AM
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I believe KIA/Naza is only bring in 1.6cc Auto at the moment to test the market.
I was hoping that they bring in the 2.0cc as well for those who wants real power for the car. |
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Sep 11 2009, 08:54 AM
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the question is when??
someone who claim that he's salesman and got contact with naza said that the beauty will be released somewhere between early september and before hari raya... n no news heard until today... |
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Sep 11 2009, 09:01 AM
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QUOTE(leongwk15 @ Sep 10 2009, 06:12 PM) So, confirm Forte is using Gamma 2.0 engine same as Spectra 5 but with tuned up to achieve power and better FC? but FORTE is 1.6 not 2.0 for our market ....if same with spectra5, then should be BETA II |
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Sep 11 2009, 09:41 AM
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Hi, Bobby
Forte is using Gamma II engine.... 1.6 is very efficient... not too sure if msia market they change.. cos even honda does that so.. its everyone guess.. Forte comes with full manual even for 2.0... (us/ canada even comes with 6 manual! ) so.. options is there.. only AD to decide... what to bring in... read into all the details.. forte can be really full of features...(up to electrical seats and all... but its the market that decides what is going into the car... |
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Sep 11 2009, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(iluvena @ Sep 11 2009, 08:54 AM) the question is when?? so far no SA can confirm the actual launch date. but it will be by this year coz they want ppl buy new car for cny. another factor is to wait after the 2010 budget is announced. so my prediction is oct/nov naza will launch the fortesomeone who claim that he's salesman and got contact with naza said that the beauty will be released somewhere between early september and before hari raya... n no news heard until today... |
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Sep 11 2009, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE(Burgerlim @ Sep 11 2009, 09:41 AM) Hi, Bobby if they ar using gamma II then different from spectra5 engine already...no information regarding gamme II in wikipedia.Forte is using Gamma II engine.... 1.6 is very efficient... not too sure if msia market they change.. cos even honda does that so.. its everyone guess.. Forte comes with full manual even for 2.0... (us/ canada even comes with 6 manual! ) so.. options is there.. only AD to decide... what to bring in... read into all the details.. forte can be really full of features...(up to electrical seats and all... but its the market that decides what is going into the car... |
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Sep 11 2009, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(skybar @ Sep 11 2009, 10:48 AM) so far no SA can confirm the actual launch date. but it will be by this year coz they want ppl buy new car for cny. another factor is to wait after the 2010 budget is announced. so my prediction is oct/nov naza will launch the forte I believe it will be launched either in OCT or NOV.1st They will wait for the Govt announcement of the AP issue at the end of Sept. 2nd They may also wait for the Govt to announce the 2010 budget. For sure Forte will be laucnhed end of this year as the 1st Batch is manufactured in year 2009. Ppl may not want to buy a car in year 2010 which is manufactured in year 2009. So ppl wait lor. |
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Sep 11 2009, 11:41 AM
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At 75k should tempt potential vios buyers. 4 speed auto, 125 hp for 1250 kerb weight. Wider stance 1775 mm ( more than civic) and 4530 length vs vios‘ 4300 mm. If specs are better- we‘ll see these road bullies on my state‘s B-roads.
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Sep 11 2009, 12:05 PM
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spectra5 FC can get 8.0L/100km...is it save??and forte also using the same engin rite??not economical lor...
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Sep 11 2009, 01:28 PM
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depends on what road you're driving lo ... 8L/100km most probably 70% highway 30 % city .
if 100% city roads, then might be 10l/100 km oso ... to say economical or not, that is very subjective. plz dont compare with CITY or VIOS coz this if defferent segment car. and their weight is defferent too. Spectra5 has 16inch sports rim and many other gadgets on it. So far i feel its equipments are more than enough for normal user. |
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Sep 11 2009, 01:32 PM
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if a full tank of petrol (60 - 70) can fetch around 300 - 400km is more than enough laaaaaa
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Sep 11 2009, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE(Myter @ Sep 11 2009, 12:05 PM) spectra5 FC can get 8.0L/100km...is it save??and forte also using the same engin rite??not economical lor... If 8L/100km for city driving 70% and highway 30%, it is consider good. This is the range for 1.5 - 1.6cc segment car |
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Sep 11 2009, 02:21 PM
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Oh.. as mentioned..
i am getting 7.5l/100km. (80H / 20C)... on 17" just over 1k servicing.. so.. i say its fantastic... but... unless you want to compare.. to hybrid..lo.. btw.. full tank could fetch 570km.. its onboard computer shows all these. (aka.. instrument cluster... like instant FC. avg FC..etc etc..) and its pretty accurate.. so.. no complain... for me... i think its as good as altis FC... IIRC... |
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Sep 11 2009, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE(Burgerlim @ Sep 11 2009, 02:21 PM) Oh.. as mentioned.. 7.5L/km with 17" wheel consider OK. May improve when the engine is "run in". If 15"wheel, I believe another saving of fuel by 10%. i am getting 7.5l/100km. (80H / 20C)... on 17" just over 1k servicing.. so.. i say its fantastic... but... unless you want to compare.. to hybrid..lo.. btw.. full tank could fetch 570km.. its onboard computer shows all these. (aka.. instrument cluster... like instant FC. avg FC..etc etc..) and its pretty accurate.. so.. no complain... for me... i think its as good as altis FC... IIRC... Sure cannot compare to Vios and City, which is lighter and smaller. |
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Sep 11 2009, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(leongwk15 @ Sep 11 2009, 02:54 PM) 7.5L/km with 17" wheel consider OK. May improve when the engine is "run in". If 15"wheel, I believe another saving of fuel by 10%. LOL-ed on your typo ...7.5L per km ....are you driving a tank ? Sure cannot compare to Vios and City, which is lighter and smaller. Seriously 7.5 L /100km is really decent. Same with my friend's latio. |
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Sep 11 2009, 05:03 PM
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wow.. it looks like you are really looking into ultra extraordinary FC for a C-sec car.. avg Civic FC also about 11~12km rite..?
just for info too.. if cruising all the way.. managed to clock 6.5l/100km too... so... its > 15km/l... so avg 12km is v.achievable.. i think. |
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Sep 11 2009, 09:17 PM
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QUOTE(bobbychin @ Sep 11 2009, 09:01 AM) but FORTE is 1.6 not 2.0 for our market ....if same with spectra5, then should be BETA II forte in singapore is using the same gamma engine as spectra5, with some minor tuning in ecu. should be the same here. |
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Sep 12 2009, 02:47 AM
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QUOTE(bobbychin @ Sep 11 2009, 01:28 PM) depends on what road you're driving lo ... 8L/100km most probably 70% highway 30 % city . haha not on the same segment ah that vios n city with this forte..if 100% city roads, then might be 10l/100 km oso ... to say economical or not, that is very subjective. plz dont compare with CITY or VIOS coz this if defferent segment car. and their weight is defferent too. Spectra5 has 16inch sports rim and many other gadgets on it. So far i feel its equipments are more than enough for normal user. |
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Sep 12 2009, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE(atah @ Sep 11 2009, 09:17 PM) forte in singapore is using the same gamma engine as spectra5, with some minor tuning in ecu. should be the same here. from what i read in wikipedia, they says it was BETA II engine, but nvm about all that .I have more to reveal about my spectra5, which might be similar to the Forte in terms of specs. today i went up genting with 3 friends ... 4 person in the car...going up genting was really hard, really no power..no joke...1250Kg car with 4 persons (total weight about 300kg) ..just imagine 1.55tonnes with 1.6 engine..really tak boleh naik. even using 2nd gear on manual mode,its hard to exceed 40km/h on certain slopes.sometimes need to go down to 1st gear too accelerate the car after sharp and steep corners. So the verdict is that , only other cars "potong" me , and I cannot "potong" other cars. really, no joke about this. This is 1 real heavy car to move up to genting, kaki genting shoudn buy this car. ok, then coming down from genting...not much problem maneuvering around the corners as the car is stable, corners all ok. problem is about the same with other cars i think.. the brake pads are hot and smelly. and it became kinda "spongebob" brake pad. stopping power is greatly reduced when the pad is heated up although on 4 disc brakes. The culprit is of course the weight again, as more brake power is needed to stop a heavy car from rolling down. I'm not saying this car is not good, how often do we go up genting? thats y earlier i've said kaki genting shouldn buy this car, others should be ok.. |
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Sep 13 2009, 02:05 AM
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even my gen2 to go uphill at no problem at all man.. still can potong some of the car... campro better than your BETA II engine?
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Sep 13 2009, 08:51 AM
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its not because campro is better than betaII , its becoz gen2, is about 300kg lighter than spectra5...try masuk another few fella into the car to get the 1.55 ton weight, u'll see wat ur campro can do.
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Sep 14 2009, 11:48 AM
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wow.. bobby.. nice update..
I am not too sure if you step the pedal all the way... though... will try on Cameron / Genting v.soon and shall update you.. i realize the program for Forte is not like most MIJ, you really need to step deeper / hard for the ECU to know "hei... i need more power.." Conti.. like pedal.. personally feel if step hard.. it comes with all the power.... (at FC cost.. though.. )Not too sure of Spectra 5 in msia.. (below?), the specs comes with 108hp... but i dont think its not enuf to pedal to genting.. but never to expect much i think.. but really even sometime my Waja 1.6 mit engine (about 109hp) really feel week too in some of my trip up...  Oh fyi, Forte's Gamma II engine comes with 124ps.. so think its >15% more from Spectra BetaII engine? i saw some posts of forte genting trip and no one complains with the power.. so finger cross... hope that helps...too.. |
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Sep 14 2009, 01:26 PM
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beta II is rated at 121ps...shouldn be a big difference ma. not much complain about this car going up genting la, maybe i did not step on the accelerator hard enough. car still new ma, just over 2.5K. it was my 1st time driving up genting though, not familiar with the road yet,so dont dare to press on accelerator kaw kaw..scared i fly off from the hill.
the hill at genting and cameron is different, genting 1 is short and steep, hile cameron is long and less steep. going up cameron will surely much easier. |
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Sep 14 2009, 01:36 PM
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hi, bobby..
yes.. i agree.. Genting is more steep... and ill be trying that on forte and update.. sure many had tried... so.. far no complains from my regular forum about the engine.. 121.. is sure healthy for such a road... i would think.. but until proven, finger crossed.. |
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Sep 14 2009, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE(Burgerlim @ Sep 14 2009, 01:36 PM) hi, bobby.. Hope to hear from your drive to Genting soon? A detail write up please. Thanks.yes.. i agree.. Genting is more steep... and ill be trying that on forte and update.. sure many had tried... so.. far no complains from my regular forum about the engine.. 121.. is sure healthy for such a road... i would think.. but until proven, finger crossed.. I was back in Ipoh last weekend and saw a Black KIA Forte with Spore plate. Just got a glimpse only as the Forte was coming from the opposite direction. The exterior looks good and bigger in size than Vios. Its a real nice car. Alot of improvement compared to previous Spectra. |
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Sep 14 2009, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE(iambenyap @ Sep 14 2009, 03:20 PM) huh? its not even launched yet lar bro.... what r u trying to point out? that advert appears on the net for quite some time already... |
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Sep 14 2009, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(leongwk15 @ Sep 14 2009, 03:00 PM) Hope to hear from your drive to Genting soon? A detail write up please. Thanks. Glad you see the real car.. heee....I was back in Ipoh last weekend and saw a Black KIA Forte with Spore plate. Just got a glimpse only as the Forte was coming from the opposite direction. The exterior looks good and bigger in size than Vios. Its a real nice car. Alot of improvement compared to previous Spectra. yes.. i would totally forget about vios to this, nothing to compare.. just different segment except the price... please people.. dun flame me.. (really untill u sit in and compare.. ) Altis? maybe.. i would say.. after 2 weeks with this car.. went back to drive my old waja.. i can safely say its 2 different world.. all together.. road handing, pose.. all... tried >150.. stable.. stick.. on road..(must be of the 17" 215 tyre..), only if sound proof can be better (its already beri good!..but as many advice maybe not to add any more unnecessary load of sound proof to it. so i choose to live with it.) but still in love of my old work horse...  |
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Sep 14 2009, 05:21 PM
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btw wanna ask , does spectra5 or forte have ARB installed on it ? or strut bar?
17" 215 tyres is stock or modified? 2.0 engine? This post has been edited by bobbychin: Sep 14 2009, 05:22 PM |
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Sep 14 2009, 09:55 PM
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hi, Bobby
i think forte share platform with hyundai elantra/avante? and i does not comes with strut bar.. ARB? donno what is that yes.. 17" is stock for SX (Aka lux version) 1.6 too... |
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Sep 14 2009, 10:39 PM
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yes, Spectra5/cerato uses the same platform with elantra. ARB is anti roll bar.
it looks like this : http://i1.lelong.com.my/UserImages/Items/0...MaxAudio@18.jpg i check the rear wheel area just now after washing my car, i found something similar in that shape. so i presume it already come with ARB. maybe gonna add strut bar soon . 1 more question i would like to ask burgerlim , how much is the tyre secommended tyre pressure for the forte? my spectra5 is 30psi, which i think is not enough for my 205/50/16. sorry for asking spectra5/forte question here. But no harm rite? just little chat while waiting for the forte to come to malaysia. |
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Sep 14 2009, 11:37 PM
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QUOTE(Burgerlim @ Sep 14 2009, 11:48 AM) wow.. bobby.. nice update.. spectra5 here comes with 121ps gamma engine, forte with same engine but different tuning got 124ps.I am not too sure if you step the pedal all the way... though... will try on Cameron / Genting v.soon and shall update you.. i realize the program for Forte is not like most MIJ, you really need to step deeper / hard for the ECU to know "hei... i need more power.." Conti.. like pedal.. personally feel if step hard.. it comes with all the power.... (at FC cost.. though.. )Not too sure of Spectra 5 in msia.. (below?), the specs comes with 108hp... but i dont think its not enuf to pedal to genting.. but never to expect much i think.. but really even sometime my Waja 1.6 mit engine (about 109hp) really feel week too in some of my trip up... Oh fyi, Forte's Gamma II engine comes with 124ps.. so think its >15% more from Spectra BetaII engine? i saw some posts of forte genting trip and no one complains with the power.. so finger cross... hope that helps...too.. |
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Sep 15 2009, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(bobbychin @ Sep 14 2009, 10:39 PM) yes, Spectra5/cerato uses the same platform with elantra. ARB is anti roll bar. Thanks,it looks like this : http://i1.lelong.com.my/UserImages/Items/0...MaxAudio@18.jpg i check the rear wheel area just now after washing my car, i found something similar in that shape. so i presume it already come with ARB. maybe gonna add strut bar soon . 1 more question i would like to ask burgerlim , how much is the tyre secommended tyre pressure for the forte? my spectra5 is 30psi, which i think is not enough for my 205/50/16. sorry for asking spectra5/forte question here. But no harm rite? just little chat while waiting for the forte to come to malaysia. unfortunately Forte rear suspension uses coupled torsion beam.. aka cheap suspension.. as in toyota... a cut down from Avante multilinked dept... about ARB, no not to front and back. nope... if i am not wrong UR racing already developed full range of ARB kit for forte.. courtesy of sg forte drive up to KL... But if local version comes with ESP.. then its working fine.. cornering pose is superb.. pointing to the direction well... very little roll... (but i didnt try at 150! so please dun assume..heee)... pressure no diff.. about 30psi..is sufficient... for the 17" depending on your driving... usu city / highway diff.. abit.. think many bros here can advice... HTH... Added on September 15, 2009, 9:52 am QUOTE(atah @ Sep 14 2009, 11:37 PM) spectra5 here comes with 121ps gamma engine, forte with same engine but different tuning got 124ps. ya.. as in avante engine.. btw... even hyundai avante 121ps is already uptuned for better fuel efficiency.. 14km/l..! woo...forte too in that range... but really forte engine is a tad noisier... maybe due to sound proof.. i donno... This post has been edited by Burgerlim: Sep 15 2009, 09:52 AM |
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Sep 15 2009, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(Burgerlim @ Sep 15 2009, 09:50 AM) Thanks, Forte with the "rear suspension uses coupled torsion beam" aka cheap suspension should be sufficient and good handling form normal driving speed and condition? Maybe Burgerlim can advice this???unfortunately Forte rear suspension uses coupled torsion beam.. aka cheap suspension.. as in toyota... a cut down from Avante multilinked dept... about ARB, no not to front and back. nope... if i am not wrong UR racing already developed full range of ARB kit for forte.. courtesy of sg forte drive up to KL... But if local version comes with ESP.. then its working fine.. cornering pose is superb.. pointing to the direction well... very little roll... (but i didnt try at 150! so please dun assume..heee)... pressure no diff.. about 30psi..is sufficient... for the 17" depending on your driving... usu city / highway diff.. abit.. think many bros here can advice... HTH... Added on September 15, 2009, 9:52 am ya.. as in avante engine.. btw... even hyundai avante 121ps is already uptuned for better fuel efficiency.. 14km/l..! woo...forte too in that range... but really forte engine is a tad noisier... maybe due to sound proof.. i donno... About the sound proof, Burgerlim, is Forte really that bad? Compare to new Vios, which is better? Thanks |
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Sep 15 2009, 02:06 PM
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hi,
no suspension no issue.. at all during normal drive, and in-fact quite surprise of the car handling with it... only time is when you cross hump lor.. its slightly choppy. (v.v.slight only..) aya..toyota / honda also.. mah.. so no complains la.. for sound proof.. its very very good already... just that top grade avante (lux class sg ver) is a tad better there lor... no complain.. really.. just that it could be better.. mah.. since the rest of the car is so good... HTH |
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Sep 16 2009, 09:06 AM
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every is just OK for the price..everything can be better, but of course come with a price. but for the KiA car price we're having, i think we're already getting much more than proton cars.
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Sep 16 2009, 10:31 AM
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I AGREE!
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Sep 16 2009, 06:35 PM
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Oh yeah... KOUP's coming down under...
http://www.caradvice.com.au/41417/kia-cera...up-first-steer/ Too bad it's going to be more flash than substance as it's still the same 4 speed 2.0L engine as the sedan. Maybe there will be a high end turbo charged version with the inevitable 6 speed manual (maybe a 5 speed auto too) by the end of next year; but the trade off would be a higher price which people are still unwilling to pay for a Korean brand. At 26K AUD (RM78K) for a 2.0L coupe, we're already getting a better deal than M'sia or S'pore. Now where can I find the money? This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Sep 16 2009, 06:37 PM |
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Sep 17 2009, 10:53 AM
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bro, i dun think you can compare car $$ in Aus vs Sin/Mal... la...
haaa.... in SG Koup is 4K more.!!! but comes with some fancy stuff like push button start (RHD) too... so |
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Sep 17 2009, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(Burgerlim @ Sep 17 2009, 10:53 AM) bro, i dun think you can compare car $$ in Aus vs Sin/Mal... la... U guys dont get push button start for forte sedan in Spore? Is it the coventional key start? For 1.6cc and 2.0cc?haaa.... in SG Koup is 4K more.!!! but comes with some fancy stuff like push button start (RHD) too... so |
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Sep 17 2009, 11:17 AM
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its coming.. but for old batch no for all models.. push module for LHD only... Only with the recent Koup launch.. they make this push button avails.. but at $$$.. and alot of it... :lol...
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Sep 17 2009, 12:24 PM
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bush button sounds good, but is it reliable? i hate it when my buch of keys starts swinging when i drive over bumpy roads.
normal key start can modify to push start rite? |
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Sep 17 2009, 12:40 PM
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QUOTE(bobbychin @ Sep 17 2009, 12:24 PM) bush button sounds good, but is it reliable? i hate it when my buch of keys starts swinging when i drive over bumpy roads. can modify but i heard u still need to insert ur key then push the start button...normal key start can modify to push start rite? correct me if i'm wrong.. sound stupid tho... Added on September 17, 2009, 12:41 pm QUOTE(Burgerlim @ Sep 17 2009, 11:17 AM) its coming.. but for old batch no for all models.. push module for LHD only... Only with the recent Koup launch.. they make this push button avails.. but at $$$.. and alot of it... :lol... how much it cost to you?i really like smart entry + push start. This post has been edited by phelix: Sep 17 2009, 12:41 PM |
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Sep 17 2009, 03:01 PM
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Burgerlim, have u made your Genting trip?
What is your Forte capacity 1.6cc or 2.0cc? What colour? Mileage reading now? |
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Sep 17 2009, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE(bobbychin @ Sep 17 2009, 12:24 PM) bush button sounds good, but is it reliable? i hate it when my buch of keys starts swinging when i drive over bumpy roads. Yup.. aftermarket avails, here its about 400sgd..iirc.. normal key start can modify to push start rite? QUOTE(phelix @ Sep 17 2009, 12:40 PM) can modify but i heard u still need to insert ur key then push the start button... heard of this too.. but iirc.. newer push start system dun need to do this anymore... correct me if i'm wrong.. sound stupid tho... Added on September 17, 2009, 12:41 pm how much it cost to you? i really like smart entry + push start. original system from AD cost 1k! but they kind of throw in some more goodies... QUOTE(leongwk15 @ Sep 17 2009, 03:01 PM) Burgerlim, have u made your Genting trip? Bro, sorry my soon is kind of next months.. so.. What is your Forte capacity 1.6cc or 2.0cc? What colour? Mileage reading now? mine is 1.6... Cheers.. |
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Sep 17 2009, 05:23 PM
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burgerlim, can you check if your car have anti roll bar? I'm abit suspicious of mine...looks like its connected to a plastic bar instead of the suspension.
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Sep 17 2009, 06:01 PM
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nope.... tot i replied you previously..? heee...
maybe you 1 2 post a picture.. should be something like this? Forte StrucBar |
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Sep 17 2009, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE(Burgerlim @ Sep 17 2009, 10:53 AM) bro, i dun think you can compare car $$ in Aus vs Sin/Mal... la... Of course. It's just that the 1.6L in both the Koup and the sedan is probably not the best option for the Forte, especially when one of the attractive points about this car is the 2.0L ThetaII's higher output compared to other C-segment rivals. The old 1.6 engine doesn't do the Forte justice but the market back home in Msia and Spore would probably welcome a smaller capacity engine. haaa.... in SG Koup is 4K more.!!! but comes with some fancy stuff like push button start (RHD) too... so Not sure what the Aussie spec Koup will come with though, it's only mentioned that it has the same equipment trim as the SLi that is more or less equivalent to SX. And the additional mood speakers of the Soul of course. We're actually lucky to have the Koup on our shores, whereas Europe will have to make do with the Ceed and Proceed variant. However, they manage to get the funky Venga while we'll be stuck with the Picanto This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Sep 17 2009, 07:12 PM |
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Sep 18 2009, 10:16 AM
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yes, i agree... forte/koup should have the entry at 2.0...
but there are many factors to a market demand such as Duty, Tax structure, Cost of use.. etc... Generally this applies to countries / cities where car is a premiums and it applies to all brands. i.e SG Civic comes in 1.6 too.. Camry in 2.0? BMW 5 series in 2.0!! Good thing is that Forte 1.6 is actually very very efficient (at the expense of power of course) and is running in <~8l/100km easily... (12.5Km/l combine). and for the 2.0 its like 9~10l/100km so.. as this makes the car much more affordable... considering we save on road tax, ins etc etc... too... cheers. This post has been edited by Burgerlim: Sep 19 2009, 11:02 AM |
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Sep 19 2009, 10:26 PM
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Burgerlim,
Wat is ur mileage now? Any special service requirement? Like need more than 4L engine oil and etc? Some renault engine require more than 5L engine oil. Thks |
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Sep 19 2009, 11:52 PM
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Arrr. . I'm sick of waiting..
No news for the launchings date for this car yet? It should be around august.. Now, october is just around the corner.. I wonder why all the car's blogger is so quiet about this. . |
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Sep 20 2009, 12:30 AM
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QUOTE(ryan man @ Sep 19 2009, 11:52 PM) Arrr. . I'm sick of waiting.. if its not this coming october, den it should be around end of this year... probably november or december. No news for the launchings date for this car yet? It should be around august.. Now, october is just around the corner.. I wonder why all the car's blogger is so quiet about this. . not sure tho *sigh* |
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Sep 20 2009, 12:42 AM
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It's hard to keep hopes high where there isn't any news/article/rumours movement on the car around our region =/
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Sep 20 2009, 09:23 AM
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Tired of waiting going for City Instead ... what the diff if I wait for City compare to this Forte which we gonna get a 2009 car and is laying around the warehouse for quite some time
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Sep 20 2009, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(titarium @ Sep 20 2009, 09:23 AM) Tired of waiting going for City Instead ... what the diff if I wait for City compare to this Forte which we gonna get a 2009 car and is laying around the warehouse for quite some time Depends on how desperate you are for a new car. Again, it's worth remembering that the Forte is a C-segment car(albeit the 1.6L is still B segment level). If you can afford to wait, perhaps you would like to wait till the Forte is launched and test drive both of them before making a decision. |
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Sep 21 2009, 12:24 AM
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What is the different between Cerato and Forte???
Some NST reader asked about the launching date of Cerato in this week CBT. Answer is, Malaysia will only get Forte and expected to launch in Nov. I am curious what is the different between Cerato and Forte? |
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Sep 21 2009, 12:41 AM
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QUOTE(leongwk15 @ Sep 19 2009, 10:26 PM) Burgerlim, nope... normal oil requirements, 3.5l and you know..i am surprised when they always overfilled the engine oil !!! after even highlighting before servicing.. so.. Wat is ur mileage now? Any special service requirement? Like need more than 4L engine oil and etc? Some renault engine require more than 5L engine oil. Thks This post has been edited by Burgerlim: Sep 21 2009, 02:17 PM |
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Sep 21 2009, 10:09 PM
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5,355 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Cera
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QUOTE(leongwk15 @ Sep 21 2009, 12:24 AM) What is the different between Cerato and Forte??? Nothing different, it's just a name.Some NST reader asked about the launching date of Cerato in this week CBT. Answer is, Malaysia will only get Forte and expected to launch in Nov. I am curious what is the different between Cerato and Forte? Forte is the new name that is supposed to replace the "Cerato", but in SG Kia calls it the Cerato Forte while in Australia it is simply Cerato. But of course, different countries might have different trims for example North America gets a 2.4L as the top spec model while we only get 2.0L. Some say M'sia is only going to get 1.6L although things might change in the future. This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Sep 21 2009, 10:13 PM |
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