To replace the Spectra means it's going to be in RM80k range.

The wait is almost over...

http://paultan.org/archives/2009/05/14/new...d-in-shah-alam/

And it is looking real good too ... hopefully they do price it lower than Vios or City considering that Msians are still skeptical on Kias'. A lower price would definitely help out as besides National cars we have another option.

No matter how good this car is gonna be,I can bet my nuts that in no way that this car is going to ever touch CITY and VIOS sales.No way.

M'sians are still too fond of Japanese makes and this one will definately be a good seller but will not affect city n vios sales.

i think the price will be around 75k to 80k, which is similar to spectra5 when it was launched. i don't think will be below 70k or else waja & persona will be much affected.

the car size is almost similar to the current civic, so why not this car rather than the smaller vios/city?



This post has been edited by atah: May 15 2009, 09:24 AM

Malaysian mindset is very much brand oriented and not product oriented. For each guy here saying Kia is on the right path of improvement, 10 guys out there are saying korean cars guzzle fuel, expensive parts, no power, etc ... and they worship japanese brands.

My prediction is, at best case the sales volume would be something like the current Hyundai Elantra unless Naza gives an attractive price.

This post has been edited by killdavid: May 15 2009, 09:45 AM

stupid people with stupid perception, especially those elderly, they dont want to change and dont want to be changed. i bet most of them never drive a korea car before, all is just listen to others, well, at least some of us also listen from friends and family...

as long as not japanese car then the car no good, japanese car have the best quality, ya, so-called "best" quality, korea car no good, car made by communist

japanese car save fuel, VVTI and VTEC very good, very powerful, you want to compare a 1.5 VVTI with 102hp on engine horsepower with a 185hp engine? not at the same range lar

japanese car spare part cheap and very easy to get, genuine some more, most of them being without knowing themself being conned, as long as the sales is over certain numbers, they will bring in more spare part, and why do we need original when 3rd party better with the same price?

unfortunately, there are many people who dont like to change the way they think just like what i said above, i personally encountered many this kind of people, mostly elderly, when some same age range with me also got....

spted in s alam.. ths is real guud.. but beter naza sells it..as naza brand. cheaper.

ya, when ppl heard about kia or hyundai, 1st thing they will say is high fc lah, no value lah, expensive spare parts lah... etc....

but in fact they never drive one before, just heard from friend's friend, cousin brother's son's friend, etc...

so i guess this is the challenge that naza and sime darby have to overcome before they can make good business.

saw this car yesterday in putrajaya. tried to catch up to get a look at the front but there's too much cars during lunchtime. the design looks cool anyway.

did u see naza logo or not?

I believe it will be rebatch as naza logo rather than kia. That will decrease the car's value despite the forte is a much better car compare to the B segment models like vios or city.

Furthermore with Naza's poor reputation on aftersales on its models like sutra, I not putting much hopes on this Naza Forte, although I would like to see some improvement.

Still people should not discard such a good value for money sedan here.

exactly, unless everyone start to say that kia forte fc very good, can reach 20km/liter

or the car is using VVTI or i-VTEC technology

i think some hyundai engine got cvvt.

This post has been edited by xshiro: May 15 2009, 12:25 PM

Well, if it has a Kia badge, Malaysians will complain too expensive. Slap on local badge and bring down, they'll complain about the badge. Willing to pay RM10-20k more for the Kia badge? A Forte is still a Forte.

Put on 2.0L they'll say too big. Put in a 1.6L DOHC CVVT with 124PS output and they'll say too small (but no complaints with 1.5Ls in the Vios/City).

Quality - nothing specific but just speculation. They've not inspected CKD New Optima, Sportage or Spectra5, no knowledge of how to benchmark. But as always, speculation is top priority for Malaysians! Have they compared Optima side by side with an Accord or Camry? Observed panel gaps, etc.?

http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/category/kia-forte/

This post has been edited by BikerVoodoo: May 15 2009, 01:09 PM

I think they should offer a few variants but obviously, a bigger c.c. like 2.0 is preferred (if I were to buy).

current models of kia and hyundai already using cvvt, which is equivalent to vvti/ivtec. most likely forte will be using the same engine as spectra5, 1.6 cvvt timing chain.

it will not be possible to have a 1.3 ton car with 1.6 engine to achieve 20km/l, then those ppl need to look for kelisa or viva or maybe savvy. i'll be happy for 12km/l for urban driving.



This post has been edited by atah: May 15 2009, 01:33 PM

if come out 1.6 ,sorry no way.
the looks already very good.

ya, 2.0 will be more suitable for this car but it will then affect the optima, unless they are bringing in the optima 2.4

but with 124hp, that's not too bad as it's already one of the highest for 1.6 engines



This post has been edited by atah: May 15 2009, 01:43 PM

1.6 is really a disappoinment...... 2.0 would be a perfect buy......