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post Nov 30 2009, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(MakanTidurSaham @ Nov 17 2009, 10:38 AM)
Warning! : Those people who're trying to sell you the idea to buy other high price share or US stocks, were actually trying to divert your investment and even trying to drift money out of Malaysian stock market to suppress KLCI.
By the way, never never never buy warrants. Doesn't matter how high is the return. It's an investment tool designed to serve as a BLACK HOLE. All money will be suck in when it expired. Tremendously reducing liquidity in the stock market, all this designed to kill small investors.
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Where is the usa criticizer? is he on school holidays too?
I am selling the idea of shorting usa stocks / etf too, not only buying icon_rolleyes.gif

Let's see, buffet concept, holding period is forever & don't try to time the market
Also, the share must have strong moat & are leaders, eg. for klse

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Jesse Livermore started only with the small wages he earned, i not sure about buffet?
Thus, it is possible to invest / play in any markets & earn from it rolleyes.gif
Seek & you will find...

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I do not have the chart from day 1 for above
Here is my free analysis of saag, since we not able to hear from you brows.gif
Base on Livermore principle of selling to sheeps on the way down
Looking at volume in apr09 & price of .22, whoever was accumulating
I would say, they have successfully transfer most of their bag to the sheep thumbup.gif

A technical rebounce would be in jul09 at .26
Notice the price at .24, when it crack below .26
That was to inform the sheep all is fine & sunny, no worries at all nod.gif
Actually, because they not fully unloaded to the sheeps yet laugh.gif
If you look at the volume from then onwards, whoever goreng saag, had cash out big time whistling.gif

On the bright side, the next support is between .14 to .15
Whoever was trap at .18, looking at volume, it would be hard to go higher, unless you sapu it all by yourself
Next resistance is at .26, looking at volume, it would be hard to go higher, unless you sapu it all by yourself also
Anyway, would like to hear your defence analysis via FA, lagging quarterly facts or figures & etc cool2.gif










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post Nov 30 2009, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(mazda626 @ Nov 30 2009, 08:22 PM)
Jesse Livermore making big from short position (down ward). He smell the signal right BEFORE the crash. He emerged as champion. But then he forget 1 thing that is very basic in life. Once successfull avoid - Women, Gamble & Liquor.

SAAG no harapan oredi. Better stay away until the fundamental change.
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yup, u r rite cool2.gif but he also make it big from buying upwards
teori does not equal practice & practice is not as easy as it seems nod.gif
means we mus go around look like ah pek, so wun get trap by sexy ladies, gambling, liquor & etc laugh.gif - no offense

there's a new saying around tis forum, so hilarious, i sure get the red kad from the referee brows.gif
but the referee girl / guy ah? rclxub.gif if girl, then i wan red kad - if guy, nvm...

siao lien eh, zho lang mai ahneh hau lien. kong lai kong ki, lu mah si jit jiak yeow siu kia. tui choo kio lu eh lau peh hoh hoh eh ka lu, ha mi si MANNERS

WARNING : below extremely not for gal readers & buffet lovers shocking.gif
LAST WARNING : dun klik it, sure rosak ur day, garanti

but curiousity really kills the cat cool.gif
if u do open & no reaction, means u r a pure buffet - sure success in market rclxms.gif
if not, die la, wil also kena crash vmad.gif

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post Dec 1 2009, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(MakanTidurSaham @ Dec 1 2009, 10:31 AM)
No fear mongering today? What happened to the fear mongers?  hmm.gif
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Following the market & buying again + shorting at same, buy the dip scenario party still on, how was the holiday?
I saw so many worried saag holders, they look extremely blur, since dunno what to do & whoever recommended to buy, was not found during saag trip to longkang hmm.gif

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=206...id=aJBx8htrQNTg

Hedge Funds Buying as Individuals Sell in Bull Signal

Nov. 30 (Bloomberg) -- Hedge funds are shoveling money into stocks as individuals exit at the fastest rate in a year, a sign to professional investors that the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index is poised to extend its gains.

About $37.3 billion has been pulled from U.S. mutual funds since August, according to the Investment Company Institute. Hedge funds -- which lost half as much on average as the S&P 500 since stocks peaked in October 2007 -- boosted bets to the highest level since the end of that year in the third quarter and have kept buying, according to data compiled by Goldman Sachs Group Inc., industry consultants and Bloomberg.

“The more sophisticated investors are seeing the opportunity, but retail investors are still scarred,” said James Dunigan, the Philadelphia-based chief investment officer for the wealth management division at PNC Financial Services, which oversees $104 billion. “It suggests that the rally still has room to go.”

Before credit markets started to freeze in August 2007, the last time mutual funds saw outflows this big was in the nine months up to February 2003, just as the S&P 500 began a five- year rally. Now, the sales are offering opportunities to Paulson & Co., Christofferson Robb & Co. and Passport Capital Management LLC to bet the more than $11 trillion lent, spent or guaranteed by the U.S. government to end the recession will lift stocks.

Individuals, who account for 82 percent of mutual fund owners, took $21.4 billion more out of equities than they’ve added and put $312.8 billion into bonds this year through the end of October, according to Washington-based ICI.

Bearish Bests

Investments designed to profit when stocks retreat increased. So-called bear-market and long-short mutual funds attracted a record $10 billion this year through October, more than double the previous high in 2006, according to Morningstar Inc. So-called retail managers have opened 19 long-short funds, the most in a year.

By contrast, hedge funds raised their stakes by 21 percent to $604 billion in the third quarter, according to Goldman Sachs. They held $363 billion in short sales, or bets that stocks will drop, the data show. The funds now own 3.8 percent of the Russell 3000 Index, which includes the largest American companies, the highest percentage this year.

Hedge funds, mostly private pools of capital whose managers participate substantially in the profits from speculating on whether the price of assets will rise or fall, got $1.1 billion of net investments in the three months through September, according to Chicago-based Hedge Fund Research Inc. The increase was the first in a year for the $1.53 trillion industry.

March Rally

The S&P 500 advanced 15 percent in that period and has rallied 62 percent since reaching a low on March 9, for a 2009 return of 24 percent including reinvested dividends. The gauge added 0.4 percent to 1,095.63 as of 4 p.m. in New York.

“It makes sense hedge funds are getting long given that the market’s up so much in a six-month period,” said Harry Rady, who oversees $250 million as chief executive officer of Rady Asset Management LLC, a La Jolla, California-based manager whose hedge fund has been adding to stocks. “The Fed has said they’re not going to let the market go down and they’ve done it by pumping liquidity into a variety of markets and that’s spilled into the equity market. People have the confidence to take equity risk.”

Most U.S. stocks fell last week as speculation Dubai may default spurred concern that the recovery in the global financial system will stall, overshadowing fewer American jobless claims and increasing home sales. The Dow Jones Industrial Average slipped 0.1 percent to 10,309.92, while 273 companies in the S&P 500 declined compared with 224 that rose.

Buying Stock

Managers added to stocks in the last two months, according to London-based investment adviser Kinetic Partners, which includes two-thirds of the 50 largest U.K. hedge funds as clients, and Conifer Securities LLC in San Francisco, which executes trades for more than 100 of the firms.

About 900 went out of business during 2008 as the S&P 500 fell 38 percent, the steepest drop in seven decades, according to data compiled by Hedge Fund Research and Bloomberg.

Hedge fund assets may increase to $1.75 trillion by the end of 2010, Morgan Stanley’s Huw van Steenis wrote in a Nov. 23 report. Peter Clarke, chief executive officer of Man Group Plc, the biggest publicly traded hedge-fund manager, said in a meeting with reporters Nov. 23 that he expects the industry to receive as much as $50 billion a quarter next year.

New Cycle

“The whole idea of hedge funds is very flexible: you can use your initiative to back the horse that’s winning this particular race and then move on,” said Andrew Shrimpton, a hedge-fund adviser at Kinetic. “It’s the beginning of a new cycle, really. Money’s starting to flow in and there is ability to leverage up on that money especially if the collateral is liquid collateral such as equities.”

Stock speculation is increasing after the Federal Reserve held its target rate for overnight loans between banks near zero since December. Three-month dollar Libor, a benchmark for lending by brokerages for stock purchases, fell to a record low of 0.254 percent this month.

Equity buying by hedge funds may be less bullish because managers are using options, short sales and credit-default swaps to protect their investments, according to Mark Yusko, president of Morgan Creek Capital Management LLC, an adviser to funds of funds in Chapel Hill, North Carolina. The Chicago Board Options Exchange Volatility Index, based on prices paid to insure against losses in the S&P 500, slipped to 20.05 last week, the lowest level in 15 months, before jumping to 24.74.

Shorting, Options

“Yes, hedge funds are buying stocks, but they’re also shorting stocks in record numbers and buying put options in record levels,” Yusko said in a telephone interview. “It basically neutralizes a lot of their equity exposure.” Puts are options that pay off when a stock, commodity or index declines.

Short interest on the New York Stock Exchange jumped in March and remains above historic levels. Stock sold short equaled 3.51 percent of shares outstanding at the end of October, or 40 percent above the average this decade.

“Most of the managers we know think the rally’s far overextended, that equities are way overpriced, and that they’re due for a very significant, long correction,” Yusko said. Morgan Creek manages about $9 billion for institutions and wealthy clients.

Valuations

The S&P 500 traded last week for 21.9 times the past year’s earnings from its companies, the highest since 2002. The Labor Department may say on Dec. 4 that the U.S. unemployment rate held at 10.2 percent this month, according to the median estimate of 65 economists surveyed by Bloomberg. A report this week is projected to show growth in construction spending slipped.

Paulson, the hedge-fund manager whose wagers against the U.S. housing market helped him earn an estimated $2 billion last year, bought Bank of America Corp. stock in the second quarter, while adding to stakes in gold companies. Charlotte, North Carolina-based Bank of America has climbed 127 percent since the end of March, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

Paulson told investors in a quarterly letter this month that he expects Bank of America stock to almost double in the next two years as writedowns ease.

Christofferson’s Brad Golding, whose CRC Financials Opportunities fund beat 95 percent of its peers in 2008 with a 109 percent gain, said he bought shares of Oppenheimer Holdings Inc. because the firm trades below book value, or the cost of its assets. The New York-based brokerage has rallied 23 percent since the end of the third quarter.

Favorite Stocks

Pfizer Inc., Bank of America and Apple Inc. ranked as the most popular stocks among hedge funds with more than 147 owning shares, according to Goldman Sachs’s survey of 13F regulatory filings. New York-based Pfizer, the world’s biggest drugmaker, added 45 percent since the S&P 500 fell to a 12-year low on March 9, while Cupertino, California-based Apple, maker of the iPhone, surged 141 percent.

“This is a phenomenon that should continue into next year and perhaps far into next year,” said John Burbank III, the chief investment officer of Passport Capital, a $2.1 billion hedge-fund firm in San Francisco that began adding shares halfway into the rally. Individuals “may never believe in equities again, we don’t know,” he said. “But hedge funds are generally increasing, partly because they’ve been conservative, and partly because they see opportunities to make money.”

To contact the reporters on this story: Lynn Thomasson in New York at lthomasson@bloomberg.net; Mary Childs in New York at mchilds4@bloomberg.net.
Last Updated: November 30, 2009 17:20 EST


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post Dec 1 2009, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(MakanTidurSaham @ Dec 1 2009, 11:43 AM)
I only come in to drop a line when the forum seems so quiet..

Last week's volume is around 100 million shares, dumping or accumulating? hehe, for the last 2 days, definitely fear mongering and big sharks accumulating.

Thanks for the welcome (err, when SAAG thriving, you guys also went quiet mah)  laugh.gif
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You are the specialist on saag, you should have the answer and analysis on why saag is a buy
Dunno about the others, but I was over in usa thread & very sure buffet would not buy saag either hmm.gif
Isn't there any other share in your watchlist? since you claim big sharks accumulating in fear mongering?
It would be best to provide data for us to view in a neutral manner cool2.gif

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post Jan 4 2010, 09:44 PM

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everyone is entitle to their own opinion rclxms.gif
at end of day, as long as make $ with own due diligence, its all fine la cool2.gif
but u got no other shares to rekomen in forum ke shakehead.gif

artikel for forever fan, no worries, just a minor setback
Buffett Posts Worst Stock Performance Against S&P 500 in Decade
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=206...ammlga6dw&pos=5

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post Jan 5 2010, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(MakanTidurSaham @ Jan 5 2010, 07:12 PM)
Basically this is truth about Malaysian stock market, Malaysian financial crime investigators and SC need not look very far to find the culprit of stock market manipulation.

Stock broking firm conspiring with Malaysian companies owners is the syndicates of stock market manipulation.

One piece of advice to those investors who put their money with the "O" stock broking firm. Their main profit doesn't come from brokerage fees, they made most money by trading against their clients (you and me). Suck our hard earn money dry.

If you want to revenge against them, simply spread the words, ask your friends to pull out from the "O" stock broking firm. Put them out of business once and for all. And you can save your friends from those financial criminals.

Choose Maybank Security. They have the best online trading tools, cheap brokerage fees if you choose a cash trading account. And they will not cheat or trade against their clients.
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weird & u r investing in bolehland share market
only O does tis & all others r innocent... wow!
lemme check dictionary on definiton of hypocrite vmad.gif
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post Jan 7 2010, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(persie @ Jan 7 2010, 04:05 PM)
for 0.17 u should sell now and take profit and fot 0.255 u sholud sell now and cut loss. jump to other stock.
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makantidursaham owns the proprietary desk for saag
his only tips from mbb security servis
GARANTI BUAT DUIT nod.gif
but dunno its ikan bilis or shark besar, make the duit laugh.gif
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post Jan 13 2010, 01:48 AM

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QUOTE(MakanTidurSaham @ Jan 13 2010, 12:06 AM)
Have you seen my private message with Zaman98 that I posted here before, he admitted to me he is a shark with unthinkable amount of cash (check back my older posts). He is not the only shark swimming around here in this forum. There're many of them.

Many of them are syndicates working for both the companies and major stock brokering firm, especially the "O" stock brokering firm (they are the main forces among stock market manipulators), they'll trade against their clients, that's how they make money, so beware. They got every info about you financially. They know exactly which stock you bought and sold, they know exactly how much money you left in the account with them. Sadly, all small fishes are naked in the open to them.

My advice to readers, don't put your money with the "O" stock brokering firm.
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its true! kita seharusnya melindungi diri sendiri cool2.gif

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post Nov 24 2010, 04:04 PM

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boring la yawn.gif all fun manager on holiday, woi! u r the lyn inhouse investment advisor for saag
give just 1 excellent reason to buy, when

still losing money
http://biz.thestar.com.my/marketwatch/fin_...?searchstr=9652

saag itself do not dare to buyback share
http://biz.thestar.com.my/marketwatch/buyb...?searchstr=9652

even staff do not dare to exercise esos
http://biz.thestar.com.my/marketwatch/capchg.asp?symbol=SAAG

doraley sell down their stake
http://biz.thestar.com.my/marketwatch/scha...?searchstr=9652

sales dropping
http://biz.thestar.com.my/marketwatch/fund...?searchstr=9652

since u r buffet fan, technical analysis does not matter
http://biz.thestar.com.my/marketwatch/coms...asp?symbol=9652

price longkang & u have average down so much. pray hard, maybe can up, unless u r also giving it all away laugh.gif
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cum la, invest in real warren shares

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QUOTE(MakanTidurSaham @ Nov 24 2010, 03:19 PM)
Well, 0.20? end of this year. That might not be possible, maybe mid 2011.

One thing for sure, this is the one counter to invest.
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post Nov 24 2010, 04:29 PM

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no problem, but if u can check the graph with volume & longer time frame, it would help ur investors to know their tenggelam level with u since last year whistling.gif
doesn't the v shape recovery cums along with good fundamentals doh.gif to complete the v shape
anyway a big terima kasih to our in house lyn investment advisor on solving the graph issue, on how cum saag only got half the v shape rclxms.gif

QUOTE(MakanTidurSaham @ Nov 24 2010, 04:20 PM)
Sulifei, thanks for showing us the half V shape chart of SAAG.

It reminds me of the V shape recovery theory. It has convinced me to double up my investment in SAAG.
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post Nov 24 2010, 06:04 PM

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he is our lyn inhouse investment advisor for saag laugh.gif manyak expert punya, dun play play
if u dunno how to swim, garanti sure sink 1
can't wait for his next share picks for us to hav more variety, too bad cannot short them hmm.gif

QUOTE(GregPG01 @ Nov 24 2010, 05:57 PM)
if you check his first post on this SAAG thread and the price then and you will know that "cut lost" is never in his books 1.
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post Nov 25 2010, 12:02 AM

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sagging does fall under goreng category! fa is pure sux, wonder does warren approve of mts fa tactics whistling.gif
this lyn inhouse investment advisor for saag got the guts & determination to see it thru to the end, cum rain or shine
its good! but kindly do it in shares with good fa, then ur performance can vastly improve
look at its volume, under good fa condition, its a buy call, for sagging, its consider as distribution doh.gif
all this only shows makantidursaham has been averaging down to the benefit of doraley

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this counter is a good example for newbies to learn something nod.gif do terima kasih to mts if he owns it & finally raise the sagging price
all those investors who followed lyn inhouse investment advisor call to buy at 0.205 who made money. do stand up, be counted & back him up
I agree he is the best analyst for shorting shares cool2.gif other than that, mts need to rocket to houston international space station on his own wink.gif


QUOTE(GregPG01 @ Nov 24 2010, 11:21 PM)
i hate to do this. but sorry, here's your call vs price action. next time, remember to cut lost in speculative counters.
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post Nov 25 2010, 12:19 AM

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ya lo, kesian him sad.gif maybe should set up a tabung kebajikan called kena-makan-tak-dapat-tidur-saham which is dikecualikan dari cukai kerajaan
and buy book by benjamin graham for him to reread + giv him some berkshire hathaway share, so he can read annual report on wat warren bought

QUOTE(zamans98 @ Nov 25 2010, 12:15 AM)
Yes, please stand-up for MTS. Kesian him, talking alone in the dark until forgot where is North or South..

MTS - don't just bank on 1-2 cts price movements. from 11cts to 13 cts is nothing dude. U knows it well.

So far mine was -15cts correct from my SELL CALL.

You are -25cts from your TP. Buy? huh, I'm ashamed to put figures here  doh.gif
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this is a comedy thread, must be part of cartoon network
there is a real difference between theory & practice, otherwise gonna pay mahal tuition fees to learn it doh.gif

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reminds me of an old mafia quote: Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?




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nah, mts is funnier! I really can't do what he can do rclxub.gif
now if only can get him to stock picks for us in usa thread, then it'll be shortings galore thumbup.gif
for now, his silent followers will only come out of the woodwork once saag ever up 2 cents

QUOTE(zamans98 @ Nov 25 2010, 03:30 PM)
Hahah, you're real funny man...

Neva mind, he got a lot of money to average down. let him fight the force alone.  whistling.gif
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in market uptrend, goreng counters goes up
all the other liners should can follow suit, provided those goreng jerung can get enough bank loan to do it
otherwise, those liners will tidur

no position in this sagg, coz fa no goodie
if u repeat tis process on tis similar type of shares in future
1 day will meet one tat goes to pn17, then can kiss sayonara

but everybody mus pay their tuition fee. hav paid mine for penny stocks, not touching them again & good luck
better go buy citibank. cheap & got branding sumore, in long run, it'll beat sagg anytime laugh.gif
our in house lyn expert on sagg will be here come rain or shine
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base on the news, this changes the entire equation
the FA did not forsee this & mts should be happy, coz he buying since 30sen?
mts can now guide on its next future price, as the in house lyn advisor for sagg
I have no position in this & wat is the expected profit from here? have they change their core business? laugh.gif

 

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