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post May 6 2009, 12:53 PM

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TS,
You need to specific what you want to discuss.
You got the share?
You got interest to buy it?
You want to goreng it?
or want to look detail into the company financial?

If not, this thread will be closed as there is no focus point to discuss on.

Cheers.
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post Jan 6 2010, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(MakanTidurSaham @ Jan 5 2010, 07:12 PM)
Basically this is truth about Malaysian stock market, Malaysian financial crime investigators and SC need not look very far to find the culprit of stock market manipulation.

Stock broking firm conspiring with Malaysian companies owners is the syndicates of stock market manipulation.

One piece of advice to those investors who put their money with the "O" stock broking firm. Their main profit doesn't come from brokerage fees, they made most money by trading against their clients (you and me). Suck our hard earn money dry.

If you want to revenge against them, simply spread the words, ask your friends to pull out from the "O" stock broking firm. Put them out of business once and for all. And you can save your friends from those financial criminals.

Choose Maybank Security. They have the best online trading tools, cheap brokerage fees if you choose a cash trading account. And they will not cheat or trade against their clients.
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Added on January 6, 2010, 12:34 am
QUOTE(MakanTidurSaham @ Jan 5 2010, 07:12 PM)
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Choose Maybank Security. 

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As far as I know, Maybank does not have security business that provide security (guard) service. laugh.gif

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post Mar 18 2010, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(sjz @ Mar 18 2010, 12:08 AM)
if i'm not mistaken, unlike NYSE of other market worldwide, short-selling is STRICTLY PROHIBITED in Malaysia right?
short-selling might leads to serious penalty, so i don't think there's a case of short-selling, if not SC should be taken action earlier..
From the official announcement, the situation now is -- they are selling ACTUAL SHARE (not short-selling) arisen from the conversion of exchangeable bond...
I only believe in what i see officially from BM.
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Short selling is definitely prohibited in Malaysia. Only regulated short selling on pre-defined certain counters are allowed. Even so, little people interested in it due to low liquidity issue.
As nowadays, with CDS and T+3 system in place, at T+2, your sold shares need to transfer to the buyer, so you can't possibly short sell without any share to deliver, as SC and Bursa will the first one to know after T+2.

NYSE can short sell, but they have put a stop on naked short-sell as well after the massive sell-down during the financial crisis.

Since after the mess financial crisis, most countries authorities have monitored closely on speculation short sell in general.
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post May 18 2010, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(sjz @ May 18 2010, 12:22 AM)
short selling is strictly prohibited in Malaysia right?
wonder how they can be able to do it? their remisier or stock broking firm or investment bank sure won't let them do that right?
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Any short selling is strictly prohibited.

One can be easily be found out by the investment bank, SC and Bursa as soon as T+2 after one sold the stocks which settlement and transfer of share need to be taken place time.



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post May 22 2010, 01:51 PM

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Renewal mandate of buyback authority means you allow the company to buyback the share only. Whether the company actually buyback or not, it is another story.

This is more about paperwok, as buyback authority generally ceased after 1 year.

You can seek for shareholder approval to buyback allow company to buyback the share, but company can buyback zero share. Then next year renew the buyback authority again, then still buy zero/little, then renew again.
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post Sep 6 2010, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(sjz @ Sep 6 2010, 03:28 AM)
more shares issued = percentage / share from the total share capital become diluted = nta become lesser...
rights issue price is RM0.08, but will give you SAAG-WA foc to encourage you to subscribe to the rights share...
if not nobody will buy the rights share at RM0.08, as the market only trading for RM0.06...
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How can company issue right issue at a price below the par value of the shares??
In this issue, the Par Value is Rm0.10, the least right issue price is Rm0.10.
Can SC approve the right issue price at Rm0.08? rclxub.gif

Issue right at RM0.08 with Par Value means you are straight away making a loss of Rm0.02 in the process in the account book. sweat.gif
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post Sep 13 2010, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(sjz @ Sep 7 2010, 08:06 AM)
because market only traded it's share 60%-65% of its par value..
so no choice.... smile.gif
their proposal is RM0.08 / rights share.
confirmed...

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Where got? rclxub.gif

The announced proposal is RI at Rm0.10 with free warrant given.
(RM0.10 which is as same as par value, as I mentioned before, it is impossible to issue RI at below par value, unless you go for capital reduction first to reduce the par value)


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post Sep 24 2010, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(MakanTidurSaham @ Sep 24 2010, 03:06 PM)
SAAG jump so high and nobody talks about it?

Where are pessimists?
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You know why
A stock that fall from 0.50 --> 0.40 --> 0.20 --> 0.10 --> 0.06,
there is nothing excitement from 0.06 goes up to 0.09.

Wait until it can surge beyond 0.20, then a lot of people will talk abou tit.
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post Sep 24 2010, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Sep 24 2010, 03:26 PM)
so this stock can buy or not at 0.09 sen?
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This, you have to ask Makantidursaham better.

My advice is to look its
paid up capital
profit it made
the number of new shares keep on being issued due to conversion of bond.

I don't mean it will go up to 0.20 or not in the previous post.
Just there were many people "sapu"ing" during 0.1x-0.20 or even higher, so now surge from 0.06 to 0.09, for them, there is nothing to shout about nor has anything to happy about when it reach 0.09. That's why you see little people talk about it.
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post Sep 25 2010, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(alenac @ Sep 24 2010, 08:32 PM)
The rights issues r priced at 8 sen. So the management have to maintain it above the said price. if not  the rights will not be successfully subscribed and the underwriter gonna to lose their pants to take up the unsubscribed portion. That's the story! All those counterfeiting story r bulls!!!!!
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The right issue never being priced at 8 cents. You cannot issue right issue below your par value.

The right issue proposed is exactly as same at its par value 0.10, with freebie giving out as posted earlier.
SC will never approve the right issue below par value.

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post Sep 25 2010, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(Kinitos @ Sep 25 2010, 09:13 AM)
The difference of 2 cents likely to be capitalised from other reserves
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I don't know why people keep on saying right issue at 8 cents, as far as I knew, it never put such a statement or proposal at all
This is what the lastest proposal

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Proposals
SAAG CONSOLIDATED (M) BHD ("SAAG" or "the Company")
(i) Proposed renounceable two (2) call rights issue of up to 5,200,549,005 new
ordinary shares of RM0.10 each in SAAG (Rights Share(s)) on the basis of five
(5) Rights Shares for every two (2) existing ordinary shares of RM0.10 each
held in SAAG (SAAG Share(s)) together with up to 1,040,109,801 free detachable
warrants (Warrant(s)) on the basis of one (1) Warrant for every five (5) Rights
Shares subscribed (Proposed Rights Issue);
QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Sep 25 2010, 02:28 AM)
Cheeroy, is it possible to issue free warrants but placed the exercise price below par value?
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Yes, but it will be much complicated, as you need to fill up the disparity from somewhere, one way is just like Kinitos posted.

As if you place an exercise price below par value, every warrant converted to mothershare will result a loss to the company, not something you wish to see when you issue warrant nor existing shareholders want to see.
It defy the purpose of issuing a warrant and very detrimental effect on dilution as well as result losses for existing shareholders.

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post Sep 25 2010, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(wonder9k @ Sep 25 2010, 04:45 PM)
Sorry i have one question to ask regarding capital reduction, hope someone can help on this.

For example:
Company A's par
value is 0.50, with accumulated loss.
Company proposed capital reduction of 0.40, meaning par value reduce to 0.10 to eliminate accumulated loss so that it can make right issues.
but the current share price is traded at 0.40 which is below initial par value (0.50), can the proposed capital reduction go through eventually? because after ex-price of 40cents reduction, it will be zero. I am kind of confuse here.
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yes, it can be done.

The only thing you are not getting right is that,
If under capital reduction, par value being reduced from 0.50 to 0.10, generally practice is that they will consolidate with 5 shares become one aka 5 x 0.10 par value back into the 0.50 par value. Same par value back but with reduction of no. of shares.
Aka in the process 5 shares being reduced to 1 share.
So, the ex-capital reduction share price will become 2.00, as it is counted on the basic of 5 share become 1 share.

So 2.00 is equivalent to previous 0.40. This is how ex-market price works.

And with 2.00 ex-market price, company face less difficulty to issue right issue at 0.50 or even 1.00.
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post Mar 2 2011, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(OldKidz @ Mar 2 2011, 11:14 AM)
uhmmm means although now around 0.90 to 0.85 also not good enter time? will go lower thn it? queue to buy at 0.85 yesterday, not able to make it.

advice taken, gonna monitor it.
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LOL, you want to buy at 0.90 to 0.85?

So generous... laugh.gif



 

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