I'm still a highschool student, form 5, just opened up my mind to what i'm gonna do in the future.
I'm just curious about this ADT Programme. Is it only in private U or also provided in government U?
The total number of students is limited to join this programme? Or is this an open programme for anyone interested?

I'm thinking of taking the Graphic Design course. So, I've done some research about the ADTP, I stumbled upon INTi college. They told me I have to do foundation for 1 year in one of their colleges and proceed to any US or UK university for the 2nd, 3rd and 4th year.
If anyone joined this programme, please do reply here. I need some info about this ADTP.

If I am not mistaken, ADTP is the term used by Sunway. Inti uses AUP.
They are generally the American Transfer Program where you do sort of a twinning with American universities.

Well, I guess AUP is provided mostly in private colleges. I do know UiTM has the ADP program, but I am not sure if it's exclusive for JPA, MARA, PETRONAS scholars.

NO limit for this kind of programme la as long as you have money.

But, as the name goes, AUP is mainly for American universities. Indeed, some UK universities do accept AUP but you need to be very excellent and you can't hope for the best universities there. With AUP, you can get into some excellent universities in America although you are still practically impossible for Harvard, MIT, CalTech. But universities like Purdue, Carnegie-Mellon are possible. Taylor's said Cornell is one of their partner, not sure how true it is.

OMG BLOODVANILLE ? REMEMBER ME ? I'M THAT GUY THAT GAVE YOU BM NOTES FOR PMR IN PLAYPARK FORUM LOL !

This post has been edited by xMika: May 5 2009, 11:47 AM

so it's called AUP in INTi.. I see.. That really gave me some ideas about this programme. Anyway what does AUP stands for? Hmm..Thanks very much bro for the insight..


WOOOTTTT... You know.. today, unexpectedly i thought about u when surfing the PMR thread!! LOL! Cant believe you're here tooo!! DUDE U ROCK! How's your SPM btw?

Hi TS, I'm an AUP/ADTP student currently at Inti Penang, and going to transfer to US by the end of this year.

You may go this thread to get more information about this course, they are all AUPians and at US right now.

Studying Oversea

Actually it's the same between AUP and ADTP, American University Program / American Degree Transfer Program. As what I know, Inti, Sunway, Taylor offer this program.

After your SPM, you just need 5 credits to enroll for this program, this is a 2+2 program, 2years at Malaysia, and 2years at US. 2years at Malaysia is kinda foundation, we study something like form6 syllabus but of course easier than form6 But don't think it's easy, at least it's not that hard, still alright for me

Hi

Thanks for the link to the thread! Will be giving it a read some time now.
So after SPM, 5 credits should be between A and C am I right? At least 5 credits? Good to hear that *phew*.

I see.. 2+2 programme. But in the INTi page, they wrote there that we can also take 1 year in INTi and proceed the 2nd 3rd and 4th year in US? I'm wondering if there's people doing this 1 year foundation.. hmm maybe they wrote the wrong info then?

What if we have taken Form 6 / matrics? Still must take the 2 years foundation? Well, you must be excited to go to US! Gogo jiayou

LOL ! My SPM ? Not really good .. 8A 1B .. BM get 3B I dropped bio
Waiting for the UTM UPU rayuan now ... july only get to know, before that, going for form 6 incase my appeal not approved.

8A 1B = NOT GOOD?!??!?! @_@"
Wow congrats dude! Please share some tips T_T.. I'm really slacking off my time maybe coz i dont find that interest in studies yet!! uh help

lol. no tips to give already T_T you know what, i always fail my sejarah in school exams, miracle happens when SPM got 1A lol. Same thing happens to add maths .. Just revise & do lots of exercise.. get tips from your school or tuition teacher

Btw, you wanna take the american degree program ? Its much easier compared to UK-degree because their education system different. American degree gives separate exams while UK degree all compilation. If fail 1 just take back that paper, no need resit for the whole thing again.

This post has been edited by xMika: May 5 2009, 02:50 PM

oh great.. you're such a genius.. lol! people like me, if fail will always keep failing unless i use some of my muscles to study @_@
lol!
so what's your next destination? UTM? Doing ADP or not? What course you're taking dude?

I'm taking Mechatronics .. now waiting for UTM diploma program to be approved .. i failed my 1st application, now appealing for 2nd intake.

ADP ? US living cost very high =.= no money ..

Dude, fyi you can apply for sponsorship/scholarship man or take a loan! With your result I believe you can get scholarship!
Good luck for your 2nd application bro.. I know u can do it. Mechatronics?!? Sounds very cool!

Thanks bro ^^ but the only concern is my BM get B, JPA all those scholarship cannot apply edi ... Loan ? See first ... You form 5 this year ? All the best to you >.<

I'm currently an AUP student.
You can choose whatever combo you want 1+3, 1.5+2.5, 2+2 or even after one semester you can transfer already but you might need to take your SATs

Well I can vouch for Cornell, one of my friends transferred there, Inti student (very high CGPA), you can basically go to any university that is willing to take your credits.

If you have taken Form 6/ A Levels/ other pre-U they will exempt some credits for example you've taken maths for STPM, you don't need to do Calculus 1 & 2.

Thanks bro .. Quite nervous @ the +Maths part.. My chemistry is also screwed up. URGH!

Oh I see! So you can choose any combo eh.. In order to take a SAT must complete 1 semester am I correct?
I see.. no more calculus if STPM was done. Thanks bro for the details. =)

Yeah you can choose any combo.
No you can take SATs anytime, even now. I've a friend who's in form 5 last year, he took SAT I with me before SPM, he planned to go to US without waiting for his SPM results ...
(This guy he didn't transfer, straight away go)

The thing is, if you do only 1 semester (or less than 30 credits worth of courses if I remember correctly) in AUP and you want to transfer, you have to submit your SAT results as well, its a rule of theirs, I'm not sure whether it applies to all the unis in US but most have this ruling for transfer students.

If you take STPM science stream, your science subjects will also be exempted (example: Bio I, II, Physics I, II etc etc)
It depends on what subjects you have done, credits will be exempted accordingly.
No problem, glad to help.

Wow! Can't believe taking SAT is available even before SPM.. well sounds nice but hard at the same time. @_@
If I do it now, I might just make a fool out of myself ahaha.

Thanks bro for the info!! =)

I rarely see anyone interested with design doing ADTP.
Most of the majors are like engineering, aviation, business, marketing, communication and psychology.
Maybe you should inquire LKW or TOA for design.

For ADTP it's better if you do more course work here because the fees is so much cheaper compared to the cost after you transfer.

newbie question here, whats ADPT and how ADPT work actually? i'm a form 5 too taking SPM this year and i wanna go oversea to take a degree in architecture right after SPM. but the fees is so high that my family couldn't afford.

for me,american degree transfer program is not very good
reason:
1.we have to study all the basic thing no matter you wan major sc subject or art subject (for eg,you wan major in engineering,but you have to study some basic subject like accounting and eco even it is not useful in your career)

2.you have to study those irrelevant subject like music,theater,philosophy,sociology,anthropology and so on

3.after you done the credit hour,you might not transfer all the credit hour to the university you aim (for eg,you done 60 credit hour in m'sia,maybe some university in US only accept ur 55 credit hour,so you wasted 5 credit hour) some college in m'sia will tell u which school(mostly are partner) accept what sub,so it's depends on the college u choose in m'sia for ADP

4.for art student,u will suffer from studying sc subject as i mention in reason 1

Yeah to be honest, there aren't many design majors around, still I don't think that should be a deterrent as long as you aim for a good design school in US.

It works like how a community college works. You take subjects that can be transferred into the university of your choice, why it exist is because community colleges credits are cheaper, this way you save money as you would do less credits in university cause you've cleared some of the subjects in college.
Most ppl do the foundational subjects in college and transfer to university.
I'm not sure how US's architecture program works, can't help you with this, sorry.
But overseas, the fees are indeed high.


The American system is fantastic for people who wants a balance and a change from the rigid British system.

A balance, which is why they require you to take subjects from a broad spectrum because Americans view education not as a specialization that leads to jobs but they want the students to also learn how to appreciate the finer things in life, which is why there's subjects like music and theater.

Subjects like philosophy, sociology and anthropology opens a student's mind to do actual thinking instead of just swallowing hard cold facts and regurgitating them out for exams.
My sociology lecturer told the class today during our first lesson,
"If you're not into thinking or are too lazy to think, drop this subject!"
Because you will fail.

And who says economics is not useful in our lives, regardless whether one majors in Chemical Engineering or Psychology, some knowledge regarding accounting and economics are highly useful.

Regarding no. 3 that's why its important to pick a uni as soon as possible.

In my humble opinion, the British system prepares graduates for jobs while the American system prepare their graduates for life.
This is of course a very subjective issue because everyone has their own opinions and they all differ as how mine differs from kim0215 so no flaming please.

i was a scholarship holder for adp and insisted to drop the stupid philosophy.
finally end up with argue with the office in school
haha
i said economics is not related and useful for that career,doesnt mean that it's not a useful knowledge,just give an example.u don't like to comment about eco,we can take account as an example too
haha.
so fast pick the uni also no use,cos some uni will not tell which is accepted until u send them ur transcript

One man's meat is another man's poison.

But for me, America system is interesting. But British system also nice la..
Hahaha..
You can prepare yourself for life in British system, or prepare yourself for jobs in America also.

Well some might not think that way People nowadays need more challenges especially those who are already good in their majors such as multimedia and such. That's from my POV lah.

I agree. I have a sister in America, doing biotechnology and I was convinced by her daily routine. You can work, you can take other classes such as dance class, drama and perform in front of whites (especially) and spread some of our culture there. This might be a good or a bad thing, you choose.

Lol philosophy's one of my favorite subjects, had a great lecturer, really opened my mind to new ways of thought and introduced me to so many great philosophers. Probably cause I'm very interested in humanity and different ideals which you don't.
But econs and accounts are useful, in the future when you deal with business (whether you start one, or invest in one, or buy shares etc etc) its going to be very handy plus, when you start working, all that tax stuff, accounting knowledge is useful (otherwise your accountant con you, you also dunno, how?)

Choosing the uni, of course la choose a uni within your range, Americans applying to universities pick unis base
1. Safety schools (definitely can get in)
2. Reach schools (within reach but rejections are possible for whatever reason)
3. Dream schools (if you're lucky you get in)
When you apply, don't tell me you just send one application. By the 2nd semester at least have a rough idea of which uni you want to go (pick a few) and choose subjects that are transferable to those universities.

Well sort of, both education systems basically have good and bad points, and will suit different people depending on their preference.
I just find UK's system very specialize, rigid and not flexible, not suitable for me, I like a little leeway and more control over choosing my subjects.
I think education involving philosophy, politics, economics, psychology etc etc are important not for job prospects but for self development, my personal interests, hence the US system suits me better.
Its depends on the student on the direction they want to take regarding education.

Yeah! Challenges, and new stuff! Spice up your life a bit learning new things ^^

Yup. The strength of the American system is its liberal education, something I prefer over other systems. There are a lot of fun and useful classes to take and there are also a lot of pointless, totally ridiculous courses to be taken as well.

Best thing about liberal education in the US is that it enables you to take double majors or even an extra master degree within a typical 4 year degree program. I nearly ended up with a double major in engineering and economics but ended up with only an econ minor instead. Drats, should have just overloaded that last quarter.

i met a very bad lecturer
she was a part time lecturer(it's ok for me)
then she never tell us how to answer the philosophical question
she only said we did wrong for the previous question
then she never return our stuff.
then she didnt tell us our coursework mark after we finished the whole semester.
then everyday in class only ask our comment, at the end of class,my fren and i also didn't know what were the main point
haha

maybe i am unlucky to have this kind of lecturer in lousy school

in my opinion,US system study less for the major as we have to study everything

Well I love the thing about double majors too. You can expand the sprectum of your learning. If not, you can also take minor. My sister told me this yesterday, it made me even more excited and interested in studying overseas.

Hmm.. not exactly. Good lecturer or not, it still the interest that counts. ..and there are also possibilities of you getting good lecturers in other universities so you can't just criticize the whole US system based on what you alone experienced.

So far, my favorite subject is Engineering Graphic We talk and make joke with the lecturer and each other while we were drawing our homework.

My friend go for SAT after standard 6.
Just go for homeschooling. But the environment really swt.. cause those schoolmates are 20+ years old.

if u are interested but u couldn't know the technique to answer,so u wan a bad result and insist to take the exam?
i just said US system study everything,didnt mean that it's not good
and in my opinion,i not very like it because study less major for myself.
my fren who did ADP in taylor also didn't dare to take philosophy

Well exam results aren't everything, depends how kiasu you are la. Some people view studying as learning process, some people view studying as a "scoring process". They have no interest in what they're studying and just want to get it over with scoring the highest marks possible.

Didn't you use your consultation hours to speak with your lecturer about the marking system? Anyway my sympathies regarding your lousy Philosophy lecturer, you should lodge a complain with your college...

You got a scholarship for ADP right? If so, you surely would have sufficiently good results to apply for other pre-U like A levels, in my opinion, you would have fitted in, into A levels's style of learning perfectly. You didn't do your research about the difference in learning patterns between the UK and the US system prior to taking ADP.... aiya you shouldn't jump straight for the scholarship mah

This post has been edited by Jyou: May 6 2009, 04:59 PM

Sociology is getting scarier..
I think it's better for me to drop it ASAP