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joe_89
post May 3 2009, 10:38 PM

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I think MUET can be replaced by a better test. But they've got a new format already so the standard should be slightly higher than before.

It won't be anywhere near a matter of life and death if you get Band 1. I saw some requirements for public universities and it says require Band 1 only. I personally got a 6 and so far it hasn't influenced me in any way significant.

I think minimum Band 4 is necessary.
joe_89
post May 5 2009, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(tineagle @ May 4 2009, 03:15 PM)
I couldn't agree with you more, well said.

When I sat for the exams back in 2007, we all were shock with the ones who managed to get Band 6.  Like you said, they didn't have an exceptional command of the language or anything.  They just answered the examination based on the standards and formats required; and voila! Band 6!

Only a handful of student managed to attain a Band 6.  Many of my english speaking friends, including myself only managed to pull in a band 5.

But its ok, to anything above band 3 is just a matter of bragging rights and self satisfaction. You'll see those that got band 5 wanting to resit and they still end up getting band 5.  I have a friend who even got LOWER the second time compared to her first attempt.
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Being a natural English speaker doesn't mean one is generally good in English already and expected to get a Band 6 in MUET or any other English tests/exams.

I only picked up English during my secondary years and my English is better compared to those who spoke English from young. I believe I have a better grasp in English in terms of pronunciation, spelling and grammars. Just that I don't speak as fluently but generally I can speak without much pauses. But I'm not saying I am good enough already because I realize I have so much more to learn. My point is, natural English speaker is not necessarily more superior than those who are not.

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joe_89
post May 5 2009, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ May 5 2009, 08:33 AM)
this is not about 'superiority', but about techniques in answering questions in muet........you are a perfect example of an english as a second language user, taught and couched in the exam techniques of muet........

generally, 2nd language users will find problem with creativity, use of simile, sarcasm, etc the nuances of a language native speakers use........it is called '1st language interference'..........
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It was implied that it's about superiority.

I know too I am THE perfect example biggrin.gif

I dont have problems using similes, idioms, creativity etc etc. smile.gif
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post May 5 2009, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ May 5 2009, 08:51 AM)
yes, the muet tests results would suggest someone who scores band 6 is superior than someone with band 5...... smile.gif

i am just pointing out that the difference between them is just exam techniques, which 2nd language users are better at........
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I didn't mean the test result suggests superiority. I was referring to the comment before mine tongue.gif

Anyway, I know what you mean. You have a very good understanding on the way MUET is structured and all.

 

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