Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Bump Topic Topic Closed RSS Feed

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 when is ASTRO going digital (HD) ?, beyond 720p

views
     
zdan
post Jun 20 2009, 12:31 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
137 posts

Joined: Sep 2005
QUOTE(stJimmy111 @ Jun 18 2009, 06:14 PM)
If u stay in apartment maybe can, high enough to hide from the view below, summore malaysia police juz give them kopi money they go away d.. lol.
*
Enforcement in not by Police but from MCMC. Please don't provoke them. .if you want to use then go ahead.Thousand of people been using already. Just set low profile.


Added on June 20, 2009, 12:34 am
QUOTE(optiplex @ Jun 19 2009, 06:46 PM)
My taman at least 4-5 houses using big dish at their roof... No one bother to complain them... The dish been there at least more than a  year.
*
why should we complain, it does not effect your health and does not interfere your TV or even your pocket. come to sarawak, thousand of them using it. drool.gif

This post has been edited by zdan: Jun 20 2009, 12:34 AM
zdan
post Jun 23 2009, 10:20 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
137 posts

Joined: Sep 2005
QUOTE(Qash-M @ Jun 22 2009, 10:38 PM)
Any news on Measat 3-a launch program? icon_question.gif
*
still monitoring, now entering it into orbit. parked at 91.5E (co-located Measat 3)carry 12 Ku and 12 C transponders.
zdan
post Jun 24 2009, 09:54 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
137 posts

Joined: Sep 2005
QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jun 23 2009, 09:19 PM)
I believe it is the bandwidth that is allocated to the broadcasts. They cram quite a bit of channels but there is not enough bandwidth allocation. I believe they are selling the bandwidth to more profitable purposes , ie, telecommunications, other nations broadcasters, news agencies...
*
Yes you're right. They put as many channel as possible in one transponder thus will cramp the bandwidth. As for Picture Quality frame (frame size 702 x 588) there's not much diffrence if you used good quality composite video cable or Monster S-Video cable.!

Currently 5 HD providers on MEasat 3 C band, but not for MAlaysian..!! Pity to all Malaysian... cry.gif

Hopefully next M3A transponder will have HD transmission for MAlaysian.




Attached image(s)
Attached Image
zdan
post Jul 9 2009, 12:25 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
137 posts

Joined: Sep 2005
QUOTE(putih @ Jul 9 2009, 10:40 AM)
I think we even lose out to Vietnam in internet infra. That's my observation about a year ago. Pathetic steemix.
*
to add...

IN vietnam they already have a HDTV. About 9 HD channel being transmitted via Vinasat 1. At this moment all channel is free to view (FTA). Previously they hired a Measat2 transponder and now they have their own satellite system.

for those can read viet go this link.

http://www.vtc.com.vn/


While in Malaysia the only one provider will not bother about what people say. They just feed it and make asumption that Malaysian know nothing about HD. I know the Measat3 already equip with HD capabilities transponder.

are we left behind or just a matter of time.. unsure.gif


Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image
zdan
post Nov 2 2009, 04:17 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
137 posts

Joined: Sep 2005
Astro will go for HD but when? nobody knows, since there's no other provider to compete them. They monopolised the sky.

Vietnam TV already on HD, Thailand still on testing, India got many HD channels and Singapore HDTV via DVB-T transmission. In Japan most TV in HDTV! In Malaysia.....lu fikir la sendiri..


Added on November 2, 2009, 4:31 pm
QUOTE(alimantap @ Nov 2 2009, 12:03 PM)
is it possible and feasible for astro to go HD? like for audience who might not have budget to buy TV that support it? maybe they consider that
*
Please open your mind, the current astro receiver is DVB-S where HD is in DVB-S2. To receive the HD signal the DVB-S2 receiver is required. Most LCD tv is ready for HD. (HD ready) mean that it can display the HD video content but the result will be in SD.

Feasible or not, current technology and customer requirement looking for a quality audio/videos. Measat is already have this faclities. People will look and asked for a better service.

This post has been edited by zdan: Nov 2 2009, 04:31 PM
zdan
post Nov 2 2009, 11:20 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
137 posts

Joined: Sep 2005
QUOTE(MrM @ Nov 2 2009, 07:17 PM)
SG has cable TV, malaysia only satellite leh.. satellite a lot costly for investment. Each satellite also limited transponder ..
Analog HD should be faster to implement then Digital HD .
I guess my relative is receiving SG Analog HD TV channel at JB.
*
Haiya bro, you still left behind aaa.!! doh.gif The analog transmission is something in history, now almost transmission using digital or they shift into digital. Astro using DVB-S while in SG using DVB-T. DVB mean Digital Broadcasting and S stand for satellite, T for terrestrial.

In SG where having small area, the DVB-T is the right solution as for country such Malaysia using DVB-S is better. (DVB-T now being under testing by RTM.) There's no such analog HDTV. More info at

http://www.corporate.mediacorp.sg/technolo...tv/abouthd5.htm

Astro is in digital but in high compress SD format. DVB-S, QPSK. kU-Band.
MediaCrop SG is digital, transmit in DVB-T.
No one will ever implement the HDTV in analog.

hope will explain. biggrin.gif
zdan
post Nov 3 2009, 09:08 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
137 posts

Joined: Sep 2005
QUOTE(SiriuslyCold @ Nov 3 2009, 12:04 AM)
yes but the HD is a digital broadcast

zdan, actually Japan had analog HD (the only country to do so, though. check the Wiki)
*
You're right but it was long time ago,

In Japan, however, even that limited standardization of HDTV did not lead to its adoption, principally for technical and economic reasons. Early HDTV commercial experiments such as NHK's MUSE required over four times the bandwidth of a standard-definition broadcast, and despite efforts made to shrink the required bandwidth down to about two times that of SDTV, it was still only distributable by satellite with one channel shared on a daily basis between seven broadcasters. In addition, recording and reproducing an HDTV signal was a significant technical challenge in the early years of HDTV. Japan remained the only country with successful public broadcast analog HDTV. Digital HDTV broadcasting started in 2000 in Japan, and the analog service ended in the early hours of 1 October 2007.

In Europe, analogue 1,250-line HD-MAC test broadcasts were performed in the early 1990s, but did not lead to any established public broadcast service.

Several systems were proposed as the new standard for the USA, including the Japanese MUSE system, but all were rejected by the FCC because of their higher bandwidth requirements. At the same time that the high definition systems were being studied, the number of television channels was growing rapidly and bandwidth was already a problem. A new standard had to be radically efficient, needing less bandwidth for HDTV than the existing NTSC standard for SDTV.


it just like NTSC versus PAL, where PAL dominate world color tv transmission.

Let see HDTV in Japan.

http://www.skyperfectv.co.jp/

just for reference..

zdan
post Nov 3 2009, 11:26 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
137 posts

Joined: Sep 2005
QUOTE(charhorfun @ Nov 3 2009, 11:08 AM)
I wonder if those Astro executives watch Astro at home? and curse like us when rain.
*
No time for that. perhaps... biggrin.gif

Astro also can be used as a early warning rain detactor. (E.W.R.D) wink.gif

That the nature of Ku Band.

This post has been edited by zdan: Nov 3 2009, 11:27 AM
zdan
post Nov 24 2009, 09:48 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
137 posts

Joined: Sep 2005
QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Nov 23 2009, 06:34 PM)
90cm is too small. we need something like 5-6 feet parabola dish. thumbup.gif
*
if used 5-6ft it will solved the rain fade problem (at least) and then we have a lot of option to view other than astro. Dont you think you dream become reality?? brows.gif
zdan
post Dec 2 2009, 01:16 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
137 posts

Joined: Sep 2005
QUOTE(neb @ Dec 2 2009, 12:15 AM)
from official source, I tend to believe measat 3A is located at 91.5°E
[attachmentid=1333464]
*
to be more precise check at *ww.lyngsat.com. or at *ww.satcodx.com

This post has been edited by zdan: Dec 2 2009, 01:27 AM
zdan
post Dec 2 2009, 04:57 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
137 posts

Joined: Sep 2005
QUOTE(kbteh @ Dec 2 2009, 12:26 PM)
just buy a dm unit,can do anything u like..
*
plus a little bit knowledge of linux, and then you can easily fly away.. rclxm9.gif


Added on December 2, 2009, 5:04 pm
QUOTE(neb @ Dec 2 2009, 02:17 PM)
being a Geostationary satellite, this satellite is not very stationary, right now wobbling at 91.46°E

got measat 3a info from norad:

Two Line Element Set (TLE):
1 35362U 09032A  09331.80517050 -.00000219  00000-0  10000-3 0  1084
2 35362 000.0032 313.3117 0003087 301.3702 193.5540 01.00271774  1624

converted to human readable:
NORAD ID: 35362
Int'l Code: 2009-032A
Perigee: 35,780.7 km
Apogee: 35,806.8 km
Inclination: 0.0°
Period: 1,436.1 min
Semi major axis: 42,164.7 km
Launch date: June 21, 2009
Source: Malaysia (MALA)
Comments: 12 Ku-band and 12 C-band transponders to provide C-band communications services throughout Asia, the Middle East and Africa, and Ku-band direct-to-home television broadcasting to Malaysia and Indonesia.

and then do a live tracking based on two-line-element data:
[attachmentid=1334143]
*
All commercial sat in geosynchronous orbit, said to be stationary but it not really stationary and it will drift due to many factor but dont worry bro, sat positioning will be control and monitor 24/7/365 by people at Measat Control Center at Gunung Mat Cincang.. Langkawi..

This post has been edited by zdan: Dec 2 2009, 05:04 PM
zdan
post Dec 3 2009, 04:10 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
137 posts

Joined: Sep 2005
QUOTE(reileong88 @ Dec 2 2009, 06:21 PM)
720p?
swt, why not 1920x1080
*
sometimes our eye cant differentiate between 1080 and 720. but 720p is good already.. as I'm already enjoyed at 1080i long time ago.

some sample capture form Truevision (1920x1080) and Luxtv HD. (1250x1080)

This post has been edited by zdan: Dec 3 2009, 08:59 PM


Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image Attached Image Attached Image Attached Image

Topic ClosedOptions
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0321sec    0.49    7 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 10th December 2025 - 03:12 AM