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allenultra
post Aug 12 2009, 11:07 PM

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I see the TS's plan more likely a unit-linked policy by HLA.
Unit-linked policy is available even 20 years ago, consulted a HLA agent about that.
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post Sep 1 2009, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(hazairi @ Sep 1 2009, 12:08 AM)
TS, i felt sorry for your mom. Honestly I feel like wanna 'maki hamun' that agent for taking advantage at your mom.
They only think about themselves. *Sigh*
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Its not the agent actually.

Its the nature of unit-linked product. There is risk involved.
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post Sep 1 2009, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(hazairi @ Sep 1 2009, 01:03 AM)
Well, based on what TS wrote:

The agent told her she would get back 60K++ upon maturity

The agent didn't tell her that the investment would have risk..
Hence, the agent is taking advantage at her mom..
A devilish agent..
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Well, I'm agree on that.
Years back, people buy insurance because they "give face" to their friends when they come selling.
End up they bought the lousy policies and never let others review their policies. My parents the same too.

Now I'm checking the surrender values of our policies, consider switching to other policies with far better protection and coverage.
It isn't easy to meet a good agent nowadays, or it just people unwillingly to go and find appropriate person (ignorance perhaps, just stick with their agents [friends, relatives] )



am_eniey, it is the dark part of insurance agent......not the insurance.
Insurance is good actually, and we as consumer must also refer the policies clearly before commit to it.
I believe most of us here are well educated, simple english on a policy shouldn't be something tough?
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post Sep 2 2009, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(4lenAngel @ Sep 2 2009, 11:54 AM)
Correct.. CI or TPD.. u wont have anything..


Added on September 2, 2009, 11:55 amJuz got the sum assured..after that ur acc is terminated.
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Somehow I do have a policy where if I being hit by CI/TPD/OAD, I will collect my sum insured but my rider attach will continue. Eg. my medical and CIWP.
I do feel the extra premium paid for the protection is worth it.
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post Sep 2 2009, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(amerz @ Sep 2 2009, 05:18 PM)
hmm, your H&S rider is attach to ILP?

can u verify that your H&S policy writing don't have this term:

This policy is renewable at the option of policyholder until the occurrence of any of the following:

(g)termination of coverage for all policies in a certain market and the Company withdraws  this policy completely from the market accordance with the Portfolio Withdrawal Condition’.

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Oops. Mine is traditional plan. H&S rider attached to it. Not an ILP.

I need to read my policy to verify that, I bought HLA Premier Life for myself and my siblings. smile.gif


I will try check if any of the HLA unit-linked product comes with such feature as well.

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post Sep 2 2009, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(amerz @ Sep 2 2009, 08:02 PM)
HLA website seem not working properly~ shakehead.gif

Thanks, really appreciate if you can verify the renewal term on HLA H&S.
coz currently I'm searching for stand alone H&S.
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HLA standalone medical package, MedGlobal IV (MG4) does have the "term" u mentioned.

I believe PJusa is compiling a standalone H&S package database. If u can wait, wait for it.
Else PM her about the information she has collected.

Get the package while you are healthy. smile.gif

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post Sep 16 2009, 07:46 PM

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Zack Styler, pay for 15 years and at year 20, the amount is slightly double the amount u saved. To me, isn't a good deal.

I saw other plan, pay 6 years will double at year 20 (35 yrs term). Another plan, pay for 10 years and will double at year 20 (till age 88)
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post Sep 16 2009, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(Zack Styler @ Sep 16 2009, 09:55 PM)
Any other plans that offer S/B for a certain years onwards?  smile.gif
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HLA Cash Builder.
Offer cash out from the end of year 1, till policy maturity, which is at year 35 smile.gif
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post Sep 17 2009, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(Zack Styler @ Sep 17 2009, 11:54 AM)
Yeap, I am now looking for plan almost like HLA Cash Builder, but probably better returns..Still surveying.. tongue.gif
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As I know, Prudential and Manulife have similiar kind of plan available too. Not sure the return somehow.

 

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