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4lenAngel
post Aug 31 2009, 04:11 AM

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QUOTE(prudential @ Aug 29 2009, 07:06 AM)
im not explaining about the investment link plan..

im answering the questions of somebody who asking how much the inflation rate..

please read carefully the whole thread before bluntly accusing about my simple post above..
i can project the investment return if somebody asking me how much he can expect if he commit Rm200 per months.
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How Much can i expect if im paying Rm200 / month in PAP ??
4lenAngel
post Sep 1 2009, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(numbertwo @ Sep 1 2009, 01:46 PM)
..but it is your 'simple post' that gives everyone impression that 8%-9% return (yearly) is achievable.

Anyhow, wasn't meant to offence you.

And why wouldn't you consider explaining to your prospect how unit trust works, let them aware of the fact that UT is very much based on market condition and how they manage it.  Giving a projection to a naive person is as bad as 'misleading' someone , and he /she will hold your statement true if he ever purchase the plan..
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ILP doesnt guarantee a return ... its all depends on the up n down of a market.
The amount agreed earlier may be just an estimation. Or it should be traditional LIFE INSURANCE.

But plz check if its ILP or traditional life insurance.( TS havent specify on that YET)
If its ILP and not traditional... upon maturity have TS checked the unit value b4 withdrawal ??whats the mortality rate ?

Usually nowdays insurance agents doesnt simply open their mouths and guarantee u after 20 or 30 years u'll get the amount..unless the policyholders asks,then the agents will explain if ILP certain amount will be invested in unit trust's managed fund under certain insurance company(which is saving apart from amount quoted for protections n etc.)
Eg.RM 200 premium / month.
RM 150 - protection/medical..etc <--- will be changed to unit values as well.
RM 50 - savings. <--- this is the cash tht will be the units and invested in funds.

Plz take note..

The advantage in unit Trusts is the spread of investments open to unit holders. In addition, Unit trust have lower risk when compared to shares. Professional investment service is provided by the fund managers and minimises paper works to the investing unit-holders.Income from dividend can also be reinvested.

But may be insurance agents doesnt tell all the policy holders this thing..
The administration fee,insurance charge,fund management fee,etc., of an investment-linked life insurance policy are usually not guaranteed. They are subject to regular review and they can be changed by the insurance company after giving a written notice over a specific period eg. 3 months.

But Diversification is good.. coz it spreads the risk.
DOnt ever put all the eggs in 1 basket. blush.gif

Ps: Traditional life insurance Policies does not allow policyowners the option of choice of investment portfolio.


This post has been edited by 4lenAngel: Sep 1 2009, 02:34 PM
4lenAngel
post Sep 1 2009, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(iamsuccess @ Aug 31 2009, 08:54 PM)
I am really confused. I was made to understand that I just have to pay every month for my ILP and because its gonna be like until I am 55 - 60 years old, I would have a substantial amount. But looking at the previous postings this might not be the case. Someone mentioned about fund switching. I am wondering how would we know when is the right time to switch funds?
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Check in the daily finance pages.. refer to ur agent or any UT consultants.
When the time is right.. diversify ur portfolio.
But make sure its accurate info. brows.gif
4lenAngel
post Sep 2 2009, 03:33 AM

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Hmm that, u have to ask who introduced the ILP.. If u are not satisfied u can write a memorandum to them.
agents juz doin the works..
4lenAngel
post Sep 2 2009, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(amerz @ Sep 2 2009, 09:18 AM)
almost all stand alone Health Insurance have this term:
Worst case scenario, get hit by CI and next year the plan has been stopped.
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Correct.. CI or TPD.. u wont have anything..


Added on September 2, 2009, 11:55 amJuz got the sum assured..after that ur acc is terminated.

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