QUOTE(zerohunter @ May 29 2009, 11:04 AM)
Aiseymen, that's screenie is from xbitlabs ler, not his.. I posted about it a few days ago.. AMD® Socket AM2&AM3 Overclocking V17, The secret is yet to be unleashed...
AMD® Socket AM2&AM3 Overclocking V17, The secret is yet to be unleashed...
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May 29 2009, 11:08 AM
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May 29 2009, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE(8tvt @ May 29 2009, 10:07 AM) if not to discuss n cannot complain we are dumb fan boyish.. About the high defective rate it could be bcoz of the difference between the production method they use.. forever blackout.. open ur mind.. it's good though on par with intel 7 series.. ![]() 4ghz is nice.. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/displ...on-ii-x2_2.html AMD using that immersion lithography (or something) while intel uses a costlier method of lithography (can't remember the name).. But all n all both have their pro n cons.. Added on May 29, 2009, 11:16 am QUOTE(zerohunter @ May 29 2009, 11:11 AM) Sure, i think its a good dual core cpu if u wanna try.. High o/c ability.. Quite nice if u don't wanna spend too much This post has been edited by cloudwan: May 29 2009, 11:16 AM |
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May 29 2009, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ May 29 2009, 11:18 AM) computational lithograpy (intel) vs immersion lithography (amd) i supposed? Miahahaha, yup that should be it.. too deep to understand for college drop out like me... It is said that production cost for the AMD lithography does come cheaper compared to Intel's but at the same time it's not that refine as intel plus intel can use those high gate k or something bla bla.. Miahahaha i'm lost.. |
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May 29 2009, 11:30 AM
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May 29 2009, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ May 29 2009, 11:33 AM) Still Athlon X4..UNLESS 905e price almost near to Propus..then..we will see 905e(Phenom II X4,Energy Efficient,65W,6MB Cache,2.4Ghz) But i guess the price will still expensive..so Propus is the choice.. Anyway the comparison between Phenom II X2 and E7400 using stock clock or overclocked 1? The comparison was done on stock if i'm not mistaken.. |
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May 29 2009, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE(8tvt @ May 29 2009, 11:43 AM) if the X2 can reach the 5k 3dmark barrier.. gaming will be smooth.. If they want to release it last year that means they have to use the old 65nm manufacturing.. quite surprise with the performance.. amd should release last year.. huhu.. so i no need wait².. The die would a monster |
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May 29 2009, 12:09 PM
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QUOTE(8tvt @ May 29 2009, 11:50 AM) that's why they lost at the first place.. n keep delaying.. If they have the budget funds like Intel does i think migrating from 65nm to 45nm would be a breeze..seriously want to see more from amd.. seems that athlon II is good also.. But with the peanuts of a budget they have, u can't expect too much.. But then again i still applaud them for the size they are, the products they make still is quite competitive.. Added on May 29, 2009, 12:13 pm QUOTE(ah_khoo @ May 29 2009, 12:03 PM) that wud be too much to ask for bro, normal x2/x3 amd chips can hardly reach that figure w normal cooling, heck, even a mildly clock deneb can barely score that high. Hope their upcoming new architecture "bulldozer" would be a total overhaul of their architecture.. imo, amd still need to improve alot, especially in architecture, deneb are just slightly improved agena while offerin better oc headrooms. ipc wise intel is still more superior. it's gonna be long time waitin for u i guess... This post has been edited by cloudwan: May 29 2009, 12:13 PM |
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May 29 2009, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(8tvt @ May 29 2009, 12:14 PM) it's just good they can still keep up with same price tag in the same performance.. Miahahahah, kurang asam u, dulu always racun me buying MSI, bila orang pkai, now say gaygaybyte plak bagos.. saw gigabyte is quite ok.. why until now ppl say not good on amd? reviewer also more using it now.. i think more better than msi.. |
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May 29 2009, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE(8tvt @ May 29 2009, 12:20 PM) no don't get me wrong.. I know but sadly this M platinum cannot unlock my X3.. Huhuhuhu.. MSI is the first reach the market.. u also want the latest.. the budget mobo is not good.. platinum came with great features with the cheap price.. can't get that with other brand with the same price.. i look forward on the bios itself.. OC purpose ofcourse.. M dengki not releasing bios that can unlock it.. huhuhuhu.. |
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May 29 2009, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ May 29 2009, 12:31 PM) and 550... the currency more a less the same as ours... That would make the Phenom II X2 550BE around RM3xx, still ok ah.. comparing with currnt proc that available [attachmentid=992891] http://www.around.ro/produse/119/0/18 |
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May 29 2009, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ May 29 2009, 12:38 PM) u sure.. i estimate about 400-+.. se the 7750 selling at 250ron.. here about 220 right? not so much diffrent... 445ron about 400 la... hmmm Look at the screenie u posted, i was comparing it with the X3 710, here it's selling for RM4xx n the difference between it and the 550 in d screenie is quite a lot sooo it should make the 550 in the RM3xx region..my regor price..i hope its <300... i dont want to wait any longer... its like going to be 300-350... Just my 2 cents ah.. Added on May 29, 2009, 12:44 pm QUOTE(ah_khoo @ May 29 2009, 12:35 PM) yup, credits should be given to amd for pushin intel all d times considerin it's size is not even half or even 1/3 of intel. imagine what amd can do if they have half d resources owned by intel... Yup i read somewhere intel in 2006 or 2007 has R&D budget of USD1.4bill, AMD only USD4xx~500mill while for marketing Intel USD1.2bil n AMD only USD4xxmil i expect amd will still play d catch up game w/ their bulldozer, but they're closin d performance gap day by day while keepin d price competetive which is gud for d consumers especially fan boys like sis verdict & i... This post has been edited by cloudwan: May 29 2009, 12:44 PM |
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May 29 2009, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE(xcen @ May 29 2009, 12:52 PM) Now I don't know if I want to buy 550BE or 720 BE Just take the 720BE ah for it's confirmed 3rd core I plan to use my computer for the next 5 years or so and I don't know if my 550 BE will be at the disadvantage in the future because it only has 2 cores whereas 720BE still can tahan a bit coz 3 cores is quite good. |
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May 29 2009, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(8tvt @ May 29 2009, 02:17 PM) maybe now price higher.. but normally msi placed more features than others in the same price range.. What i was trying to stress is actually in R&D, when u have hell lot of moolah u can basically employ lots more research teams n do more at the same time comparing with the company with peanuts of a budget..haha me not influenced by the marketing or advertising.. just seeking true potential chip in the right time.. @xcen buy 955.. With that alone Intel has an edge over AMD.. |
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May 29 2009, 02:42 PM
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May 29 2009, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ May 29 2009, 02:45 PM) Eh no, they can bribe me, i'll take it anytime but don't ask me what i'm going to do with the money though..» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by cloudwan: May 29 2009, 02:47 PM |
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May 29 2009, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE(xcen @ May 29 2009, 02:49 PM) 3 years ago I was still stupid, conned by a business man that is confirmed bribed someway or another by Intel. I think during that time Athlon X2 is already available right?? He say AMD not stable go ask me get Pentium D. Regretted ever since That is why my next rig this year will definitely be AMD! |
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May 29 2009, 02:53 PM
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May 29 2009, 02:58 PM
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May 29 2009, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(ventrilocks @ May 29 2009, 03:17 PM) it utilize when u do some work that require a lot of core..well i7 not for me now..maybe 5 years later i will go for i7..but,when the time comes..new generation of proc will come..so i just take the new one.. By that time i7 would already be a low end cpu i think |
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