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 AMD® Socket AM2&AM3 Overclocking V17, The secret is yet to be unleashed...

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post May 29 2009, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(zerohunter @ May 29 2009, 11:04 AM)
@8tvt

from where u get the screenie? u really own a x2 550? i tot it's not in the market yet?
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Aiseymen, that's screenie is from xbitlabs ler, not his.. I posted about it a few days ago.. doh.gif
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post May 29 2009, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ May 29 2009, 10:07 AM)
if not to discuss n cannot complain we are dumb fan boyish..
forever blackout.. open ur mind..

it's good though on par with intel 7 series..
user posted image

4ghz is nice..
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/displ...on-ii-x2_2.html
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About the high defective rate it could be bcoz of the difference between the production method they use.. hmm.gif
AMD using that immersion lithography (or something) while intel uses a costlier method of lithography (can't remember the name)..
But all n all both have their pro n cons..


Added on May 29, 2009, 11:16 am
QUOTE(zerohunter @ May 29 2009, 11:11 AM)
haha, i seldom on9, hehea........so u guys think tat x2 550 really a good proc to try out?
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Sure, i think its a good dual core cpu if u wanna try.. High o/c ability.. Quite nice if u don't wanna spend too much smile.gif

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post May 29 2009, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ May 29 2009, 11:18 AM)
computational lithograpy (intel) vs immersion lithography (amd) i supposed?  hmm.gif

too deep to understand for college drop out like me...  sweat.gif
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Miahahaha, yup that should be it.. laugh.gif
It is said that production cost for the AMD lithography does come cheaper compared to Intel's but at the same time it's not that refine as intel plus intel can use those high gate k or something bla bla.. sweat.gif
Miahahaha i'm lost.. laugh.gif
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post May 29 2009, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ May 29 2009, 11:28 AM)
It is BE as stated in picture..isnt it?
aah..the unlock is good what tongue.gif
later permanent lock baru tau whistling.gif
Lets just wait and see what these beasts gonna do tongue.gif
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Miahahaha, so TS u still going for the Athlon X4 or suddenly sudah berubah hati?? whistling.gif whistling.gif tongue.gif
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post May 29 2009, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ May 29 2009, 11:33 AM)
sleep.gif
Still Athlon X4..UNLESS 905e price almost near to Propus..then..we will see tongue.gif
905e(Phenom II X4,Energy Efficient,65W,6MB Cache,2.4Ghz) whistling.gif
But i guess the price will still expensive..so Propus is the choice..
Anyway the comparison between Phenom II X2 and E7400 using stock clock or overclocked 1?
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Usually the e series are much more pricier.. sweat.gif
The comparison was done on stock if i'm not mistaken.. hmm.gif
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post May 29 2009, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ May 29 2009, 11:43 AM)
if the X2 can reach the 5k 3dmark barrier.. gaming will be smooth..
quite surprise with the performance.. amd should release last year.. huhu..
so i no need wait²..
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If they want to release it last year that means they have to use the old 65nm manufacturing.. sweat.gif
The die would a monster doh.gif doh.gif
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post May 29 2009, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ May 29 2009, 11:50 AM)
that's why they lost at the first place.. n keep delaying..
seriously want to see more from amd..

seems that athlon II is good also..
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If they have the budget funds like Intel does i think migrating from 65nm to 45nm would be a breeze..
But with the peanuts of a budget they have, u can't expect too much.. sweat.gif
But then again i still applaud them for the size they are, the products they make still is quite competitive.. thumbup.gif


Added on May 29, 2009, 12:13 pm
QUOTE(ah_khoo @ May 29 2009, 12:03 PM)
that wud be too much to ask for bro, normal x2/x3 amd chips can hardly reach that figure w normal cooling, heck, even a mildly clock deneb can barely score that high.  sad.gif
imo, amd still need to improve alot, especially in architecture, deneb are just slightly improved agena while offerin better oc headrooms. ipc wise intel is still more superior. it's gonna be long time waitin for u i guess...  nod.gif
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Hope their upcoming new architecture "bulldozer" would be a total overhaul of their architecture.. smile.gif

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post May 29 2009, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ May 29 2009, 12:14 PM)
it's just good they can still keep up with same price tag in the same performance..

saw gigabyte is quite ok.. why until now ppl say not good on amd?
reviewer also more using it now..
i think more better than msi..
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Miahahahah, kurang asam u, dulu always racun me buying MSI, bila orang pkai, now say gaygaybyte plak bagos.. mad.gif vmad.gif Geget kang.. Miahahaha laugh.gif
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post May 29 2009, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ May 29 2009, 12:20 PM)
no don't get me wrong..
MSI is the first reach the market.. u also want the latest..
the budget mobo is not good.. platinum came with great features with the cheap price..
can't get that with other brand with the same price..

i look forward on the bios itself.. OC purpose ofcourse..
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I know but sadly this M platinum cannot unlock my X3.. Huhuhuhu.. cry.gif cry.gif
M dengki not releasing bios that can unlock it.. huhuhuhu..
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post May 29 2009, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ May 29 2009, 12:31 PM)
and 550... the currency more a less the same as ours...
comparing with currnt proc that available
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http://www.around.ro/produse/119/0/18
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That would make the Phenom II X2 550BE around RM3xx, still ok ah.. hmm.gif
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post May 29 2009, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ May 29 2009, 12:38 PM)
u sure.. i estimate about 400-+.. se the 7750 selling at 250ron.. here about 220 right? not so much diffrent... 445ron about 400 la... hmmm
my regor price..i hope its <300... i dont want to wait any longer... its like going to be 300-350...
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Look at the screenie u posted, i was comparing it with the X3 710, here it's selling for RM4xx n the difference between it and the 550 in d screenie is quite a lot sooo it should make the 550 in the RM3xx region..
Just my 2 cents ah.. smile.gif


Added on May 29, 2009, 12:44 pm
QUOTE(ah_khoo @ May 29 2009, 12:35 PM)
yup, credits should be given to amd for pushin intel all d times considerin it's size is not even half or even 1/3 of intel. imagine what amd can do if they have half d resources owned by intel...  brows.gif

i expect amd will still play d catch up game w/ their bulldozer, but they're closin d performance gap day by day while keepin d price competetive which is gud for d consumers especially fan boys like sis verdict & i...  tongue.gif
Yup i read somewhere intel in 2006 or 2007 has R&D budget of USD1.4bill, AMD only USD4xx~500mill while for marketing Intel USD1.2bil n AMD only USD4xxmil doh.gif doh.gif

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post May 29 2009, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(xcen @ May 29 2009, 12:52 PM)
Now I don't know if I want to buy 550BE or 720 BE cry.gif

I plan to use my computer for the next 5 years or so and I don't know if my 550 BE will be at the disadvantage in the future because it only has 2 cores whereas 720BE still can tahan a bit coz 3 cores is quite good.
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Just take the 720BE ah for it's confirmed 3rd core tongue.gif
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QUOTE(8tvt @ May 29 2009, 02:17 PM)
maybe now price higher.. but normally msi placed more features than others in the same price range..
haha me not influenced by the marketing or advertising.. just seeking true potential chip in the right time..

@xcen

buy 955..
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What i was trying to stress is actually in R&D, when u have hell lot of moolah u can basically employ lots more research teams n do more at the same time comparing with the company with peanuts of a budget..
With that alone Intel has an edge over AMD.. sweat.gif
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post May 29 2009, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(xcen @ May 29 2009, 02:40 PM)
Not to mention with money Intel can further the gap by 'Providing incentives for choosing our products'.

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Yup and 'incentives' to overlook or delay for launch of a competitor base products brows.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ May 29 2009, 02:45 PM)
but cant bribe a end user like me not to choose amd....
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Eh no, they can bribe me, i'll take it anytime but don't ask me what i'm going to do with the money though..

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post May 29 2009, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(xcen @ May 29 2009, 02:49 PM)
3 years ago I was still stupid, conned by a business man that is confirmed bribed someway or another by Intel.

He say AMD not stable go ask me get Pentium D.

Regretted ever since  cry.gif

That is why my next rig this year will definitely be AMD!  rclxm9.gif
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I think during that time Athlon X2 is already available right?? sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ May 29 2009, 02:52 PM)
doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
i7 pulak.
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All OC'ers in here kaki makan rasuah laugh.gif biggrin.gif
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post May 29 2009, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ May 29 2009, 02:55 PM)
I would prefer give me the money instead tongue.gif
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Yup, u can do all lot more with money tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ventrilocks @ May 29 2009, 03:17 PM)
it utilize when u do some work that require a lot of core..well i7 not for me now..maybe 5 years later i will go for i7..but,when the time comes..new generation of proc will come..so i just take the new one..
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By that time i7 would already be a low end cpu i think tongue.gif
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post May 29 2009, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ May 29 2009, 03:40 PM)
Aku umur 18 baru ada laptop...dan umur 20 baru ada pc sendiri...
I should be happy biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ventrilocks @ May 29 2009, 03:47 PM)
u r lucky..
aku umur 22 baru ade pc sendiri..laptop pn x ada..
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At 18 i have to share a low end AMD K6-2 300mhz pc doh.gif

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