QUOTE(lwb @ May 1 2009, 07:51 PM)
i'll let you have your confidence and >25% returns.. but i'm surprized that you can't find what i'm holding.

they're neither of the 2 factors that you've mentioned..
Sigh - everything was launched by a "developer" once upon a time.
Sri Putramas was selling at a developer price of 160K and was launched 7 years ago. Today, the market prices is about 220K, and yet "someone" managed to get it at 140K. Using your lingo - it's still below developer's price. Obviously, there are many strategies and methods to acquire such properties "below market price". e.g. finding a motivated seller, putting 20% down etc etc.
So - pls be specific and elaborate. If not, what's the point of posting something which may be full of ambiguity?
By the way, having known Pai as a friend - u don't have to let him have his confidence. His portfolio returns are admirable, and I've seen them myself. At least he substantiates his opinions with concrete examples. Am I'm not talking about bragging rights, ok?
cheers.