@to all
The difference between FOTA and NSU as below:
1. FOTA is patches based, meaning it only put patches to ur phone, small fixes etc... consider an upgrade to ur existing firmware meaning it dont touch ur existing firmware, but upgrading it... eg. when u upgrading from v20 - v21 thru FOTA the size is about 3++mb, while when u upgrade from v11 - v21 the size might be slightly larger than 3MB
2. NSU is full firmware version, meaning it's like a brand new firmware therefore the size is like 100++MB

For a similiar example, i would use Windows OS as the example.

Using FOTA: U already installed windows xp sp2, then now u're upgrading your windows xp sp2 - sp3

Using NSU: U never install any windows os in ur computer, your computer only have bios, so you will need to install a whole windows xp sp3 to ur computer.

this is the main difference and it explain why FOTA size is so much smaller as compare to NSU update.

Suggestion:
if your existing firmware doesnt have any problem, try to update your phone with FOTA as it's just a patches and fixes, no problem should arise after upgrading ur phone....

if your existing firmware got problem such as screen flickering problem and some software based problem, then i would suggest you upgrade the firmware thru NSU cuz it's like installing a brand new copy of symbian OS to ur phone, it "MIGHT" fix your problem, however if new problem arise, try to reinstall ur firmware... if problem still persist, i would suggest you go to NCC

If you find this information useful please give me a plus rating, also TS tachilo please include this information in the FP so that people dont keep asking the related question and spamming forum which might be warned by mod.

@j-slade, icechiller
personally i dont suggest upgrade thru NSU again if your phone got no problem.... many people said that upgrade thru NSU is better as it flashes ur phone... this is true that NSU do flashes ur phone by reinstalling the whole firmware, but better or not... no1 can tell.. as some ppl have new problem arise after upgrade thru NSU some doesnt... like i said.. the risk is all by you... i'm no god therefore i cant tell you will there be any problem if you update thru NSU, as things can happen during the upgrade process, like electricity trip... sudden power surge... all these things can cause problems to your phone....

@pskk press ur contact list open... there should be two tabs on top... 1 is ur normal contact... another one is group contact... u select the group contact tab... then create new group... then go inside the new group u just created and add new member into it.

@all the gathering is at NEW WING STARBUCK sunway pyramid... 3PM TOMORO

awww.... pskk nv say thanks to me..

nobody in JB call me tell me they nid a ride.. actually i wanna arrange carpool for everyone.. i posted my contact but u all dont ask, dont even bother to pm me.. so please dont say you dont have transportation to come.. it's a bad excuse... =/ i tried my best to get everyone going.. but if u're too lazy to take initiative then sorry my fren. =)

btw.. just a frenly reminder to all tubers that's gonna attend the gathering later... PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH ALL YOUR BELONGINGS... i will not be responsible if you lost anything during the gathering... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE TAKE CARE WITH YOUR BELONGINGS!!!!!! dont afterwards tell me you lost this and lost that as if i'm the one that caused ur loses

omg
omg omg what phone is this
sooooooo uber cool

hi all.. finally i'm back from gathering.... i've did my haircut after that at GDO salon in pyramid.. =) altho the topic discussed a bit strayed from originally what i've planned.. but below is what we've discussed in the gathering:

1. Geo-tagging in tube using flickr direct upload
2. Equalizer setting for tube for better sound quality output
3. Camera settings for picture taking
4. Several bug that arise after upgrade to firmware v21
5. difference between FOTA and NSU update of firmware
6. Themes and wallpaper exchange
7. Certificate problem regarding symbian application
8. Modification with tube to remove red light
9. Accessories for tube, such as BT8030, and wired earphone for tube
10. Screen protectors, tube's leather case and capdase
11. Some chit chatting regarding LTA future development
12. Some planning for better community tightness
13. Group photography with tubes... tubes photography
14. Rubbish talking and other stuff...

@rames oh gosh.. u're poisoning my mind with ur DSLR's wide angle lens... ZzzZzzZzZ...

@JayC bro... the equalizer is suppose to be wavvy... lol... sorry i nv use any screen capture software... so u might wanna ask those who go to the gathering to share the equalizer setting

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Added on May 9, 2009, 9:45 pm@clavicus to be more exact to turn off ur breathing light:

Phone settings > Phone > Notification Lights > Standby br. light > Off

This post has been edited by echo.Garden: May 9 2009, 09:45 PM

for the red light moddin to ur phone is very easy.. it will not void the warranty.. just go get 1 sticky tac... u know those kind that use to stick ur papers or things on wall? pull out a small piece... then open ur battery cover and stick it on the red light there... holla done..

i feel i'm youngest when i go gathering.. muahahahahahahaha.... btw....

@yes the red light is in the middle of both flash.... and it doesnt affect the sensor when u do focusing....

and i got 20% warning now which i dont even where it's from... no moderator tell me anything... i dont even know what happen .... =.=

This post has been edited by echo.Garden: May 10 2009, 07:42 PM

@for the red light modding.. please do not use it on taking other ppl's photo... thanks.. it's invasion of privacy... =/

hahaha.. gosh... see so many tubers using the siggy i created feel so great... hope those that attended gathering that day is happy... babysmurfy.. hope u like the casing, jnick hope u like the leather case... tho i might be changing my phone to idou once it's out... but tube alliance should not die..

warning... *ahemAhem* is not allow to discussed here... please not that... thanks...

i know a lot of u guys sometimes will do wallpapers or themes for tuber... that's why i decided to create another logo which is easier for you to use on any platform

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Added on May 12, 2009, 10:53 pm@aspire dont worry... i stil remember when u compiling the FP i love u & ur hardwork...

This post has been edited by echo.Garden: May 12 2009, 10:53 PM

@shogun u sure the information is correct? any1 tested this?

@off ur network based =.= it's gonna be a killer in ur bill

v15 v15 v15 coming to town... @myliew check ur pm already pm u solution..

about the contact thingy... i was thinking.... mayb it's how it's designed.... erm... it will blink between number and name when it's calling... however one reason it appear number and not number might be because of the +6 in front...

eg. u save ur frens contact 0161234567, when ur fren call he might be outstation in other state or somehow the operator change his call number, it'll be come +60161234567 so it will display as number instead of name...

Solution: ask ur fren to call you then u re-save the number.....

This post has been edited by echo.Garden: May 15 2009, 10:57 PM