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QUOTE(ace.princess @ Nov 5 2009, 02:17 PM)
Nevermind, that guy would probably only represent 5% of the population, and most probably shy and uncapable in pursuing a girl. There's still another 95%, and real men are those who aggressively go after what they want, whatever is it in life, be it women, career, lifestyle, etc. If a man does not actively pursue me, and needs me to take the initiative and go after him, how do you think he actually conducts his life? This lack of initiative would probably spill into other area in life such as career, what if he isn't aggressively pursuing his career or business to ensure the family we build will have enough to survive?

It's natural instincts, if you ask me. Call me primitive, but certain things just don't change, it's nature.


I could say the same about women. What does it say about you, if you do not aggressively go after what you want and just wait for things to come to you?

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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Nov 5 2009, 03:34 PM)
I could say the same about women. What does it say about you, if you do not aggressively go after what you want and just wait for things to come to you?
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The rule of thumb in flirting is always this: Women attract, men pursue. How a man pursue a woman will say a lot about how he conducts his life. However, the same can't be said about women, since a woman's role in dating stage is to entice the man to come pursue her. That's the woman's job! The woman's efforts is not to do the active pursuing, but to do the passive part of attracting men, and mind you, that's efforts all on its own. You think we don't need to wear the right clothes and put on the best attitude to make you like us more ar? You think we don't need to do anything to sustain men's interests ar?
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QUOTE(ace.princess @ Nov 5 2009, 02:30 PM)
If I were you, knowing that he's aggressive, if he likes me then he would come. If he doesn't, nevermind lar, tons of other fishes in the sea - Who are equally aggressive too.
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Maybe my perspective is different. tongue.gif

I don't like many guys in my life (at least up to current), so I'ld rather go for the guys whom I really like and I don't even mind to confess to him.

I don't find any excitement and relax seeing those guys who go after me aren't actually whom i like.
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QUOTE(ace.princess @ Nov 5 2009, 02:44 PM)
The rule of thumb in flirting is always this: Women attract, men pursue. How a man pursue a woman will say a lot about how he conducts his life. However, the same can't be said about women, since a woman's role in dating stage is to entice the man to come pursue her. That's the woman's job! The woman's efforts is not to do the active pursuing, but to do the passive part of attracting men, and mind you, that's efforts all on its own. You think we don't need to wear the right clothes and put on the best attitude to make you like us more ar? You think we don't need to do anything to sustain men's interests ar?


A modern, liberated female you are not. laugh.gif

Justify it all you want - your "I only need to wait for things to come to me" attitude most likely carries over to other aspects of your life besides love and relationships. You won't have any "rules of thumb" to help you there.

Heck, you remind me of Moorish. laugh.gif



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QUOTE(ace.princess @ Nov 5 2009, 02:44 PM)
The rule of thumb in flirting is always this: Women attract, men pursue. How a man pursue a woman will say a lot about how he conducts his life. However, the same can't be said about women, since a woman's role in dating stage is to entice the man to come pursue her. That's the woman's job! The woman's efforts is not to do the active pursuing, but to do the passive part of attracting men, and mind you, that's efforts all on its own. You think we don't need to wear the right clothes and put on the best attitude to make you like us more ar? You think we don't need to do anything to sustain men's interests ar?
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Women attract, men pursue. Agreed.

Now here's the question, if the guy is not pursuing you, is it because he's lazy? or is it because you've not done enough to entice him? Effort is necessary on both sides. Looks and good attitude? You think that's enough? That's not really the effort in enticement you know. Just like how a man grooms himself to give himself a better chance at pursuing, its the same for women, that's a personal thing. How do you differentiate yourself from the other women? What is different about you that makes you worth pursuing?

Just because a guy doesn't pursue you, it doesn't means he's a lazy bum. It could just mean you're unattractive to him and not worth his time pursuing.
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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Nov 5 2009, 04:01 PM)
A modern, liberated female you are not.  laugh.gif

Justify it all you want - your "I only need to wait for things to come to me" attitude most likely carries over to other aspects of your life besides love and relationships. You won't have any "rules of thumb" to help you there.

Heck, you remind me of Moorish.  laugh.gif
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Whatever you say lar, suit yourself. As long as life is good for me and I still enjoy being pursued by men, being given attention to, and continue to have variety in choices, I'm a very satisfied person.

Sometimes, being a woman is good in this way because we get pursued and get to choose. Muahaha... Perhaps you're just jealous of this privilege, but it's okay... You can suit yourself as you wish and expect women to go after you, it's fine as long as you get the women you're happy with.

QUOTE(silverhawk @ Nov 5 2009, 04:49 PM)
Women attract, men pursue. Agreed.

Now here's the question, if the guy is not pursuing you, is it because he's lazy? or is it because you've not done enough to entice him? Effort is necessary on both sides. Looks and good attitude? You think that's enough? That's not really the effort in enticement you know. Just like how a man grooms himself to give himself a better chance at pursuing, its the same for women, that's a personal thing. How do you differentiate yourself from the other women? What is different about you that makes you worth pursuing?

Just because a guy doesn't pursue you, it doesn't means he's a lazy bum. It could just mean you're unattractive to him and not worth his time pursuing.
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Women attract, men pursue. Good you agree, which is what I believe in. So living with this, who cares if some others don't pursue me? I only pick from the pool of those who pursue me, because that's how they catch my attention. With that already taking up bulk of my dating time and attention, do you think I still care if there's anyone else in the background who's not pursuing me, be it because they're lazy, unattractive, inexperience, refuse to pursue girls, or whatever? They don't even catch my attention to begin with.

I'm happy and satisfied there's always quality men from the pool of men who are already pursuing me. Which is the same end result anyway - To be happy being together with a good man.

That's me attaining what I want by doing what I believe in lar, it's just what I live with. But if the rest manage to have a good long successful relationship with the woman pursuing the man at first place, as long as both are happy and the relationship works out well, then it's fine if they believe in that.
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QUOTE(ace.princess @ Nov 5 2009, 06:19 PM)
Whatever you say lar, suit yourself. As long as life is good for me and I still enjoy being pursued by men, being given attention to, and continue to have variety in choices, I'm a very satisfied person.

Sometimes, being a woman is good in this way because we get pursued and get to choose. Muahaha... Perhaps you're just jealous of this privilege, but it's okay... You can suit yourself as you wish and expect women to go after you, it's fine as long as you get the women you're happy with.
Women attract, men pursue. Good you agree, which is what I believe in. So living with this, who cares if some others don't pursue me? I only pick from the pool of those who pursue me, because that's how they catch my attention. With that already taking up bulk of my dating time and attention, do you think I still care if there's anyone else in the background who's not pursuing me, be it because they're lazy, unattractive, inexperience, refuse to pursue girls, or whatever? They don't even catch my attention to begin with.

I'm happy and satisfied there's always quality men from the pool of men who are already pursuing me. Which is the same end result anyway - To be happy being together with a good man.

That's me attaining what I want by doing what I believe in lar, it's just what I live with. But if the rest manage to have a good long successful relationship with the woman pursuing the man at first place, as long as both are happy and the relationship works out well, then it's fine if they believe in that.
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Are you ALSO saying that you never had an experience of wanting something that you can't have?
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QUOTE(ace.princess @ Nov 5 2009, 06:19 PM)
Sometimes, being a woman is good in this way because we get pursued and get to choose. Muahaha... Perhaps you're just jealous of this privilege, but it's okay... You can suit yourself as you wish and expect women to go after you, it's fine as long as you get the women you're happy with.


And now you're insulting me by gloating about something you have that you assume I don't? Predictable. laugh.gif


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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Nov 5 2009, 06:21 PM)
Are you ALSO saying that you never had an experience of wanting something that you can't have?


Yes she has. Everyone has. But not everyone dares to admit it.



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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Nov 5 2009, 07:34 PM)
And now you're insulting me by gloating about something you have that you assume I don't? Predictable.  laugh.gif
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No ar, not insulting you. Just saying if you're happy the way you are, then it's fine. While I'm happy living my life this way, so be it.

QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Nov 5 2009, 07:21 PM)
Are you ALSO saying that you never had an experience of wanting something that you can't have?
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Used to. Now, not anymore.

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QUOTE(ace.princess @ Nov 5 2009, 06:37 PM)
No ar, not insulting you. Just saying if you're happy the way you are, then it's fine. While I'm happy living my life this way, so be it.
Used to. Now, not anymore.
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Ghey argumentation tactic.

Reducing the issue down to "individual choice" as a last minute tactic to avoid total defeat.

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QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Nov 5 2009, 07:40 PM)
Ghey argumentation tactic.

Reducing the issue down to "individual choice" as a last minute tactic to avoid total defeat.
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I really don't know why these guys like to argue so much, even to the well-accepted concept of "women attract, men pursue". Heck, how often do you hear guys proclaiming 'damn, I wish to talk to her and get to know her!' after seeing a hot girl walking pass?

What an irony. Okay, maybe you guys are the ones who don't behave that way, but who cares, majority does.

I'm just sharing my insights of how a girl who gets pursued thinks and feels, if you guys don't agree, then don't pursue girls anymore lor. Not like all men will stop pursuing girls, we will still have our supply, haha.
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Now let's all take a dip in the pool and chill before the thread gets locked.
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QUOTE(ace.princess @ Nov 5 2009, 06:49 PM)
I really don't know why these guys like to argue so much, even to the well-accepted concept of "women attract, men pursue". Heck, how often do you hear guys proclaiming 'damn, I wish to talk to her and get to know her!' after seeing a hot girl walking pass?

What an irony. Okay, maybe you guys are the ones who don't behave that way, but who cares, majority does.

I'm just sharing my insights of how a girl who gets pursued thinks and feels, if you guys don't agree, then don't pursue girls anymore lor. Not like all men will stop pursuing girls, we will still have our supply, haha.
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Now, we all know everybody is different. So one can't really stereotype here. And for that matter, ladies are getting bolder. So err, tables might've turned you know..
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QUOTE(ace.princess @ Nov 5 2009, 06:19 PM)
do you think I still care if there's anyone else in the background who's not pursuing me, be it because they're lazy, unattractive, inexperience, refuse to pursue girls, or whatever? They don't even catch my attention to begin with.

So hard to admit the possibility that you're not attractive to them? laugh.gif All those reasons are valid, but from the way you speak of it, you're downplaying their lack of pursuit to make yourself feel better about it.

Its good that you have your pool smile.gif That pool gets smaller as you get older though, so be careful about that. So better snag a good one before time runs out biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ace.princess @ Nov 5 2009, 06:37 PM)
Used to. Now, not anymore.
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Who's fault was that?

Maybe...it's because you never took the initiative?
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Nov 5 2009, 07:20 PM)
So hard to admit the possibility that you're not attractive to them? laugh.gif All those reasons are valid, but from the way you speak of it, you're downplaying their lack of pursuit to make yourself feel better about it.

Its good that you have your pool smile.gif That pool gets smaller as you get older though, so be careful about that. So better snag a good one before time runs out biggrin.gif
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Hey I don't think you guys should go so hard on her. Since she is a type of person who enjoys all the attention from her "pool" of choices, ignore her then. ^^
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Hey I don't think you guys should go so hard on her. Since she is a type of person who enjoys all the attention from her "pool" of choices, ignore her then. ^^
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Haha that'd be wise, I also just want to just post for the fun of voicing out and chao. But when people argue back, what to do, I admit I've got a huge stand in everything I say, so I usually would come back and defend my points. I rather just post once in a topic and not needing to say anything again (forum-ing takes a lot of time k), but sometimes, the itch of defending your own point is just too great tongue.gif

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So hard to admit the possibility that you're not attractive to them? laugh.gif All those reasons are valid, but from the way you speak of it, you're downplaying their lack of pursuit to make yourself feel better about it.

Its good that you have your pool smile.gif That pool gets smaller as you get older though, so be careful about that. So better snag a good one before time runs out biggrin.gif
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Like I said, does it matter whether they're attracted or lazy or shy or stupid? They don't even come close to my radar.

An analogy, when a person just had a meal and they're well fed with good food during the meal, and they're so well fed till they're full and won't take anymore food, would they still be craving for food at that point? Would I still look around and see what other good food I have not eaten?

Of course not, once I'm satisfied, even if there's good food I've not tried, my appetite is satisfied so the thought of having more food won't even cross my mind.

As long as I'm already getting what I want from men who are pursuing me, would I even look elsewhere? Even if I'm not attractive to certain people, does it matter? Even models don't turn everyone on. As long as those who are attracted to me can make me happy and willing to go all out to pursue.

Why do you like to start arguments so much ar? Fun to piss people off on the internet? Don't you have a girl you want to pursue?


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QUOTE(ace.princess @ Nov 5 2009, 08:06 PM)
Haha that'd be wise, I also just want to just post for the fun of voicing out and chao. But when people argue back, what to do, I admit I've got a huge stand in everything I say, so I usually would come back and defend my points. I rather just post once in a topic and not needing to say anything again (forum-ing takes a lot of time k), but sometimes, the itch of defending your own point is just too great  tongue.gif
Like I said, does it matter whether they're attracted or lazy or shy or stupid? They don't even come close to my radar.

An analogy, when a person just had a meal and they're well fed with good food during the meal, and they're so well fed till they're full and won't take anymore food, would they still be craving for food at that point? Would I still look around and see what other good food I have not eaten?

Of course not, once I'm satisfied, even if there's good food I've not tried, my appetite is satisfied so the thought of having more food won't even cross my mind.

As long as I'm already getting what I want from men who are pursuing me, would I even look elsewhere? Even if I'm not attractive to certain people, does it matter? Even models don't turn everyone on. As long as those who are attracted to me can make me happy and willing to go all out to pursue.

Why do you like to start arguments so much ar? Fun to piss people off on the internet? Don't you have a girl you want to pursue?
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QUOTE(euphoria88 @ Nov 5 2009, 12:04 AM)
that reply is not to answer his question lar  shakehead.gif
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