Welcome to LYN’s Pharmacy thread. This is the place for discussion, questions and recommendations. All are welcome regardless if you’re a pharmacy student, a pharmacist or neither.
Please do not expect us to know the answer to every of your question nor start a flamewar here. Comparisons between medicine, pharmacy and sciences are more than welcomed but please keep them under control.
What is Pharmacy?Pharmacy is the health profession that links the health sciences with the chemical sciences , and it is charged with ensuring the safe and effective use of pharmaceutical drugs.
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WikipediaWhat does a Pharmacist do?A pharmacist compounds and dispenses drugs to patients to ensure optimal health outcomes. A pharmacist is also responsible in counseling patients on the safe and effective use of drugs.
Frequently Asked QuestionsWhat is the difference between a Pharmacist and a Doctor?A doctor will
diagnose(a disease) and
prescribe medicine for patients. A pharmacist
dispenses medicine to patients.
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by jerkdiagnose is the doctor telling you what illness you have such as cough and fever.
prescribing is the part where the doctor write something like antibiotic after diagnosed your condition so that the nurse or what-so-ever know what medicine to pack for you.
dispense is the part where you get your medication as prescribed by doctor.
in case you are wondering why pharmacist is not involved or maybe i missed out, doctors in malaysia get to sell medicine. Therefore they are dispensing and not pharmacist.
What is the difference between MPharm and BPharm?» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
by youngkieswell to simplify MPharm is a undegraduate Master degree in pharmacy, which is quite different from undergraduate Bachelor degree, BPharm, although the study period is the same.
The reason why the existance of undergraduate MPharm course in msia is because, availability of twinning program with UK university.
in UK, all bachelor degree is done in 3 years, but there is no way to fit pharmacy studies into 3 years, hence they retain the course for 4 years, and squeeze in a esearch at master level in the final year, to make it equivalent of master degree.
So basically, the different is not much compare to other courses of postgraduate master degree, just that it is a straightaway 4 years undergraduate degree. So if you do MPharm degree in UK, from a reputable uni, you will learn like other postgraduate master degree too, as so to attain skills at master level.
if you asking IMU or Notts, I would suggest Notts. Why, they have been doing 2+2 for long time and are fully accredited by RPSGB. Which means the graduate of the 2+2 degree can remain in UK to work as pre-reg after graduation. As for IMU, only the 2+2 program allows their graduate to remain in UK after graduation, which the program itself is quite new.
What are the career options for a Pharmacist?» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
by youngkies1. Community / retail pharmacy in UK is where the pharmacist dispense medication to the patient presenting with a prescription from a doctor. Besides, the pharmacy might also offer various services such as diabetes testing, blood pressure testing, smoking cessation, health promotion and plenty more. They also make supply to doctor practices or health care centre. As for Msia, they do dispense drug but because usually the doctor clinic is allow to do that, hence pharmacy is under utilised. But mostly they make huge money by supplying drugs to the clinic.
2. Pharmacist in hospital do ward round, medicines management, writing guideline and protocols, plenty to study, pharmacist led clinic (e.g. warfarin, diabetes) and plenty more including dispensing, though most hospitals in UK have robot dispenser.
3. Industrial, yes basically they are manufacturing medicines. But as a pharmacist, you can do as Quality control or assurance officer, manufacturing officer, R&D, specialise in some equipment, even project manager such as developing a new factory in india, or representative of the company making deal with supplier, dealer, pharmacy, or government body or cleaner.
by hurm001. hospital - dispense and compound drugs , medicine, do some research, consult patients and doctor too..but doctor n pharmacist cant get well when they're doing things together,,ok that one put aside..income is ok..depends on ur experience..around 6-7k..govrment got elauns etc..if private is higher.
but working in hospital..u can gain a lot of knowledge..everyday with a new case..working hours are tight..plus OT.
2. retail - caring, guardian, watson, ..it is more to business..ppl go to pharmacy, buying the medicine directly from pharmacist. some drugs dont required u to get prescription from the doctor ( example: paracetamol)..but some u need a prescription ( list of medicine on a piece of paper which u got it from a dctor)..those who r working in retail , their income is much higher compares to working in hospital..and their working hours are like office hours..9am/ 10 am - 9pm..
3. Industrial - those who want to get fat income, do work in industrial sector..example : GSK company ( they made panadol) , pfitzer, unza..upha..or any pharmaceutical manufacturer company..they really need pharmacist.. pharmacist in msia insist to work in industrial..most pharmacist in msia prefer to work in hospital or retail.but the income can come up to 10k..depends on what department u go..u can go to R&D, QC ( quality control ) : u're responsible to supervise how they make the medicine/ supplement/ products from A - Z and must meet the standard..and u also can go to marketing department eventho u have no idea about marketing but some company like pfitzer , the requirement to work under marketing department is degree in pharmacy ...and a lots more..
4. those who can do multi task, they can do part time lecturer and at the same time become a supervisor for pharma company, and at the same time, they do research, ...
pharmacy is a potential field..it would not stop coz it is relates with science, technology and from time to time..they aim to produce drugs which can give good therapeutic effect with minimal side effects..economical..
5. become a scientist..u create a new drug / modified a drug , increase its safety..if it was succeed. trust me whole wide world will need it.u can just sit and goyang kaki at home..coz u're already rich.
6. own a company, produce ur own medicine / health products which pattern under your company's brand name..
What is the starting pay for a fresh graduate in Malaysia?Approximately RM 3, 000 - RM 4, 000.
How do you register as a Pharmacist in Malaysia?Link from the Malaysian Pharmaceutical Society – UK Student Chapter Blog » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
by jerkIn order to register as a pharmacist in Malaysia, a person must :
a. Possess a degree recognized by the Pharmacy Board of Malaysia
b. Undergo pupilage training not less than a year that is recognized by the Pharmacy Board
c. Pass a Forensic examination conducted by the Pharmacy Board
For a foreigner, additional requirements are:
a. He/she is married to a Malaysian
b. He/she is the spouse of a foreigner working in Malaysia under a valid working permit.
There must also be no restriction in the applicant's own visa
so, i think if condition (a) cant be satisfied, you cant register as a pharmacist in malaysia. i just dont know. so you might only can get involve in industrial sector
SOURCEaccreditation in uk
List of Places of Training for Provisionally Registered Pharmacist » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
1. Cawangan Penguat Kuasa Farmasi Negeri Perlis
2. Hospital Tuanku Fauziah, Kangar, Perlis
3. Hospital Alor Setar, Kedah
4. Hospital Baling, Kedah
5. Hospital Kulim, Kedah
6. Hospital Langkawi, Kedah
7. Hospital Sungai Petani, Kedah
8. Cawangan Penguat Kuasa Farmasi Negeri Kedah
9. Cawangan Penguat Kuasa Farmasi Negeri Pulau Pinang
10. Hospital Bukit Mertajam, Pulau Pinang
11. Hospital Pulau Pinang, Pulau Pinang
12. Hospital Seberang Jaya, Pulau Pinang
13. Hospital Ipoh, Perak
14. Cawangan Penguat Kuasa Farmasi Negeri Perak
15. Hospital Seri Manjung, Perak
16. Hospital Slim River, Perak
17. Hospital Taiping, Perak
18. Hospital Teluk Intan, Perak
19. Bahagian Penguat Kuasa Farmasi Kementerian Kesihatan Malaysia, Petaling Jaya, Selangor
20. Biro Pengawalan Farmaseutikal Kebangsaan, Petaling Jaya, Selangor
21. Cawangan Penguat Kuasa Farmasi Negeri Selangor
22. Hospital Ampang, Selangor
23. Hospital Banting, Selangor
24. Hospital Kajang, Selangor
25. Hospital Kuala Kubu Baru, Selangor
26. Hospital Sabak Bernam, Selangor
27. Hospital Selayang, Selangor
28. Hospital Serdang, Selangor
29. Hospital Sungai Buloh, Selangor
30. Hospital Tanjung Karang, Selangor
31. Hospital Tengku Ampuan Rahimah, Klang, Selangor
32. Cawangan Penguat Kuasa Farmasi Negeri Sembilan
33. Hospital Kuala Pilah, Negeri Sembilan
34. Hospital Port Dickson, Negeri Sembilan
35. Hospital Seremban, Negeri Sembilan
36. Cawangan Penguat Kuasa Farmasi Negeri Melaka
37. Hospital Melaka, Melaka
38. Cawangan Penguat Kuasa Farmasi Negeri Johor
39. Hospital Batu Pahat, Johor
40. Hospital Kluang, Johor
41. Hospital Muar, Johor
42. Hospital Segamat, Johor
43. Hospital Sultanah Aminah, Johor Bharu, Johor
44. Cawangan Penguat Kuasa Farmasi Negeri Pahang
45. Hospital Kuantan , Pahang
46. Hospital Temerloh, Pahang
47. Cawangan Penguat Kuasa Farmasi Negeri Terengganu
48. Hospital Kemaman, Terengganu
49. Hospital Kuala Terengganu, Terengganu
50. Cawangan Penguat Kuasa Farmasi Negeri Kelantan
51. Hospital Kota Bharu, Kelantan
52. Hospital Kuala Krai, Kelantan
53. Cawangan Penguat Kuasa Farmasi Negeri Sabah
54. Hospital Keningau, Sabah
55. Hospital Lahad Datu, Sabah
56. Hospital Likas, Sabah
57. Hospital Sandakan, Sabah
58. Hospital Tawau, Sabah
59. Hospital Queen Elizabeth, Kota Kinabalu, Sabah
60. Cawangan Penguat Kuasa Farmasi Negeri Sarawak
61. Hospital Bintulu, Sarawak
62. Hospital Miri, Sarawak
63. Hospital Sibu, Sarawak
64. Hospital Umum, Sarawak
65. Cawangan Penguat Kuasa Farmasi Wilayah Persekutuan Kuala Lumpur
66. Hospital Kuala Lumpur, Wilayah Persekutuan Kuala Lumpur
67. Hospital Putrajaya, Wilayah Persekutuan Putra Jaya
68. Hospital Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia, Kuala Lumpur
69. Hospital Universiti Sains Malaysia, Kubang Kerian, Kelantan
70. Pusat Perubatan Universiti Malaya, Kuala Lumpur
Source How does an institution of education (university) gain recognition by the Pharmacy Board of Malaysia?» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
by jerkThe Board approved the scheduled gradation of recognition of pharmacy courses to the following levels.
a.Approval by LAN to start course
b.First Monitoring [1st year]
c.Second Monitoring [2nd year]
d.Provisional Recognition after the first batch of students have completed or are in 3/4 of their course
e.Full Recognition after the passing out of the first batch of graduates
Thus for those institutions that have not obtained full recognition, the Board will make yearly evaluation visit to these institutions until they obtain full recognition.
source:
Pharmacy Board Annual Report 2004lastly, Provisional Recognition and Full Recognition is DIFFERENT and should be emphasized.[/quote]
How do you register as a Pharmacist in UK?» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
by youngkies3 years working experience as registered pharmacist in your country, then overseas conversion course @ sunderland uni, one year pre-reg + passing the exam = registration in uk.
Useful Links1.
List of Qualifications by Malaysian Ministry of Health2.
Accreditation in Australia3.
MPharm Accreditation in UK (RPSGB)MALANSIAN PHARMACEUTICAL SOCIETY (MPS)MPS is the national pharmacy & pharmaceutical society in Malaysia. Check out their
website to know more about the latest news relating to the pharmacy profession in Malaysia.
[for those of you overseas, it is the equivalent of
PSA (Australia) and
RPSGB (UK)]
Previous Topics:
1.
Studying Pharmacy - share your experience2.
Pharmacy course - private colleges in Malaysia3.
BPharm in Malaysia4.
Will Pharmacists Gain Dispensing Rights in Malaysia?UNIVERSITY SECTION Recommended subjects to take at pre-u level1.
Biology is not necessary at pre-u level as a criteria to enter universities in Malaysia, but it provides a solid foundation when you enter the course later. Chemistry, however, is a must.
Should you not choose to take Biology, you should have a combination of 2 science subjects (Chem & Physics) and 1 Maths subject.
However, some unis may have their own requirement and the above may not apply.
2. Tha
mathematics involved in Pharmacy is very basic calculations. A little bit of statistics is involved and very minimal calculus.
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STPM - Biology, Chemistry, Maths, Pengajian Am, MUET
A Levels - Chemistry, Biology, Maths + Physics.
South Australian Matriculation(SAM) - ESL, Maths Studies, Biology, Chemistry + Physics/Psychology
Australian Matriculation(AUSMAT) -
Canadian Pre-U (CIMP/ICPU) - Chemistry, Biology, Maths, Physics
International Baccalaureate(IB) –
MUFY – Chemistry, Biology, English, Maths + Physics/Others
Courses offered by PUBLIC (IPTA) universities in Malaysia:
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1. Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia, UKM - Bachelor of Pharmacy (Hons);
Website2. University Malaya, UM - Bachelor of Pharmacy (Hons);
Website3. Universiti Islam Antarabangsa Malaysia, IIUM (
WEBSITE)
4. Universiti Sains Malaysia, USM - Bachelor of Pharmacy (Hons) (
WEBSITE)
5. Universiti Teknologi Mara (UiTM) (
WEBSITE)
Courses offered by PRIVATE (IPTS) universities in Malaysia» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
International Medical University, Selangor (
WEBSITE)
Minimum entry requirements
1. Bachelor of Pharmacy (Hons), 4 years local; July intake. Fees: RM 174,400 (tuition)
2. Bachelor of Pharmacy (Hons), credit transfer 2 years to University of Otage, New Zealand; July intake.]
Fees: RM 87,200 (local tuition) + USD 30,000/RM 105,000 (Otago tuition)
Total approximate: RM 192, 200 ++ (not inclusive of miscellaneous fees and cost of living in Otago)
3. Bachelor of Pharmacy (Hons), credit transfer 2 years to University of Queensland, Australia; July intake.Fees: RM 87,200 (local tuition) + USD 30,000/RM 105,000 (Queensland tuition)
Total approximate: RM 192,200 ++ (not inclusive of miscellaneous fees and cost of living in Queensland)
4. Master of Pharmacy, 2 years local + 2 years at University of Strathclyde, Glasgow; January intake.Fees: RM87,200 (local tuition) + USD 30,000/RM 105,000 (Strathclyde tuition)
Total approximate: RM 192,200 ++ (not inclusive of miscellaneous fees and cost of living in Glasgow).
5. Master of Pharmacy, 2.5 years local + 1 year at University of Strathclyde, Glasgow; January intake
*Note: This programme does not qualify you registration with the Royal Pharmaceutical Society of Great BritainFees: RM 109,000 (local tuition) + USD 37,500/RM 131, 250 (Strathclyde tuition)
Total approximate: RM240, 250 ++ (not inclusive of miscellaneous fees and cost of living in Glasgow)
UCSI, KL (WEBSITE)Bachelor of Pharmacy (Hons), 4 years local, July intake. (interview required)Tuition fees: approximately RM 100,000
AIMST, Kedah (
WEBSITE)
Bachelor of Pharmacy (Hons), 4 years local; August intakeFees: RM90,000 (tuition)
University of Nottingham, Semenyih (
WEBSITE)
Master of Pharmacy, 2 years local + 2 years at University of Nottingham, UK; September intake.Fees: RM66,000 (local tuition) + £27, 820 (Nottingham, UK tuition)
Total approximate: RM227, 400 ++ (exchange rate of £1 = RM5.80), NOT inclusive of miscellaneous fees and cost of living in UK
Segi College, Kota Damansara (
WEBSITE)
Master of Pharmacy, 2 years local + 2 years at University of Sunderland, UK; September intakeFees: RM 68, 000 (local tuition) + £ 13, 600 (Sunderland, UK tuition)
*in UK tuition fees should be £ 8300 but there’s a guaranteed scholarship for international student about £1500 each year.
Total approximate: RM 146, 880 ++ (exchange rate of £1 = RM5.80), NOT inclusive of miscellaneous fees and cost of living in UK
Monash University, Sunway (
WEBSITE)
Bachelor of Pharmacy, 4 years local; February intake.Fees (approx): RM 155,000 (tuition)
Island College of Technology, ICT (
WEBSITEIjazah Sarjana Muda Farmasi (kerjasama USM) , 4 years local; July intake
Masterskill College (
WEBSITE)
1.
Bachelor of Pharmacy, 4+0 with La Trobe University, Australia. (
INFO)
2.
Diploma in Pharmacy, 3 years local. (
INFO)
CUCMS, Cyberjaya ([url=http://www.cybermed.edu.my/cucms-web/FP_BPharm.jspWEBSITE[/url])
Bachelor of Pharmacy (Hons), 4 years local; July intakeFees: RM100,000
Inti University College, Nilai (
WEBSITE)
Diploma in Pharmacy, 2.5 years local.Kuala Lumpur Metropolitan College (KLMU) (
WEBSITE)
Diploma in Pharmacy, 8 semesters local.MAHSA College (
WEBSITE)
ENTRY REQUIREMENTSMaster of Pharmacy, 2+2 with Liverpool John Moores University, UK ; Sept intakeFees: TBA
Diploma in Pharmacy, 3 years local ; Jan, April, July, Sept intakesFees: RM 54,000
Taylor's University CollegeMaster of Pharmacy, 2+2 with Cardiff University, UK (Jan/September intake)Bachelor of Pharmacy, 4+0 by Taylor's University (Jan/September intake)
Courses offered in UK and Europe» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
King's College, London (
WEBSITE)
Master of Pharmacy, 4 years full-time, September intake.Tuition fees: £12,860 per year
Aston University, Birmingham (
WEBSITE)
Master of Pharmacy, 4 years full-time, September intake.Tuition fees: £12,300 per year
University of Bath(
WEBSITE)
Master of Pharmacy, 4 years full-time, September intake.Tuition fees: £12,750 per year
University of Bradford(
WEBSITE,
Pharmacy handbook)
1. Master of Pharmacy, 4 years full-time, Sept intake.Tuition fees: £10,900 per year
2. Master of Pharmacy(practical training), 5 years full-time, Sept intake.Tuition fees: £10,900 per year
University of Cardiff, Wales(
WEBSITE)
Master of Pharmacy, 4 years full-time, Oct intake.Tuition fees: £12,300 per year
University of Brighton (
WEBSITE)
Master of Pharmacy (Hons), 4 years full-time, Sept intake.Tuition fees: N/A
De Montfort University, Leichester (
WEBSITE)
Master of Pharmacy(with Honours), 4 years full-time, Sept intakeTuition fees: £8500-£9000 per year.
Liverpool John Moores University (
WEBSITE)
Master of Pharmacy, 4 years full-time, Sept. intake.Tuition fees: £10,450 per year
University of Manchester (
WEBSITE)
Master of Pharmacy, 4 years full-time, Sept intake.Tuition fees: £13,400 per year
Courses offered in Australia (Group of 8 unis)» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
University of Queensland, St. Lucia campus (
WEBSITE)
Bachelor of Pharmacy, 4 years in UQ, February intake.Tuition fees: AUD$ 27,300 per year
University of Sydney (
WEBSITE)
Bachelor of Pharmacy, 4 years in Sydney, February intake.Tuition fees: $AUD 30,046 per year
Monash University, Parkville campus/Victorian College of Pharmacy (
WEBSITE)
Bachelor of Pharmacy, 4 years at Parkville campus, February intake.Tuition fees: $AUD 28,800 per year
University of Tasmania (
WEBSITE)
Bachelor of Pharmacy, 4 years in Tasmania, February intake.Tuition fees: approx $AUD18,000 per year
Curtin University of Technology, Perth (
WEBSITE)
Bachelor of Pharmacy, 4 years at Bentley campus, February intakeTuition fees: $AUD 98,300 for 3 years
LINK: List of Pharmacy Schools in Australia Courses offered in Indonesia:» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
Bandung Institute of Technology (
WEBSITE)
Admission requirements and feesBachelor of Pharmacy, 4 years in Indonesia
Tuition fees:US$ 17,500 per year
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youngkies – Cardiff University (UK registered pharmacist)
bafukie - IMU (graduated)
ridd – London School of Pharmacy (final year/graduate)
Dely – KICT (final year)
wskyline – UCSI (final year)
jerk – Curtin University of Technology, Australia (3rd year BPharm)
baoz – Monash University Sunway (3rd year BPharm)
coogie – Segi / Sunderland (2nd year MPharm)
Jean ne – Segi / Sunderland (2nd year MPharm)
viperWC - Monash University Sunway (2nd year BPharm)
Blue Lavender - Monash University Sunway (2nd year BPharm)
zstan - Monash University Sunway (1st year BPharm)
This post has been edited by baoz: Apr 10 2011, 05:26 PM