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XxAC3xX	Feb 6 2009, 05:31 PM Show posts by this member only \|This post's rating (0+, 0-) \| Post #61
Getting Started Group: Junior Member Posts: 208 Ratings earned: 0+, 0- Ratings given: 0+, 0- Joined: Feb 2008 From: dun even noe whr da hell m i	QUOTE(azameel @ Feb 5 2009, 07:47 PM) from my post from jazzy939 extracted from bcar section L try to compare it, there is no E and I in the bcar section L, there is only A, C, X, and R jazzy939, can you enlighten me on the Cat X license, for electrical trade, which is the correct category? i always listen people say E and I only or EIR, never heard of CAT X other than the one in the bcar section L i rectified them alrdy...check whether if its like tat...

JohnMax	Feb 6 2009, 09:41 PM Show posts by this member only \|This post's rating (0+, 0-) \| Post #62
Getting Started Group: Junior Member Posts: 258 Ratings earned: 0+, 0- Ratings given: 0+, 0- Joined: Jul 2007 From: A Place call Die no one knows..	Complete Guide : How to enter Polytechnic Diploma Aircraft Maintenance (DAM) Course and PROS AND CONS. EASA Part 66 - CAT A Course details. Semester 1 PSA -------- MORAL STUDY 1 PSA -------- ENGLISH FOR TECHNICAL PURPOSES 1 MODULE 1 - MATHEMATICS MODULE 2 - PHYSICS MODULE 6 - MATERIAL AND HARDWARE(MCQ) MODULE 6 - MATERIAL DAN HARDWARE(ASP) PSA --------- TECHNICAL COMMUNICATION PSA --------- INDUSTRIAL SAFETY MODULE 7 - MAINTENANCE PRACTICES(MCQ) MODULE 7 - MAINTENANCE PRACTICES(ESSAY) PSA --------- COMPUTER APPLICATION PSA --------- KO KUIKULUM 1(Kawat) Semester 2 PSA ---------- MORAL STUDY 2 PSA ---------- ENLISH FOR TECHNICAL PURPOSE 2 PSA ---------- KO KURIKULUM 2 (Kelab Kauseling) MODULE 11 - AEROPLANE AERODYNAMICS, STRUCTURES AND SYSTEMS - METC Books, MAS Instuctors. + ASP MODULE 8 - BASIC AERODYNAMIC AIRCRAFT SUPPORT WORKSHOP 1 at MAS - WORKSHOP 40 days AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE WORKSHOP 1 at MAS - HANGAR 24 days + AIM (Aircraft Interior Maintenance) MAS Company Procedures at MAS Industrial Safety at MAS Semester 3 On Job Training - AIRCRAFT SUPPORT WORKSHOP 2 at MAS - Hangar 100 days = AIM+EIR+A&C B747-400 Systems Gen.Fam. at MAS B777-200 Systems Gen.Fam. at MAS B737-300 Systems Gen.Fam. at MAS ETOPS at MAS Semester 4 MODULE 15 - GAS TURBINE ENGINE +ASP MODULE 17 - PROPELLER + ASP MODULE 10 - AVIATION LEGISLATION + ASP MODULE 9 - HUMAN FACTOR MODULE 3 - FUNDAMENTAL ELECTRIC + ASP MODULE 5 - DIGITAL TECHNIQUES + ASP MODULE 4 - FUNDAMENTAL ELECTRONIC +ASP AIRCRAFT SUPPORT WORKSHOP 2 at MAS - Workshop 40 days Semester 5 On Job Training - AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE WORKSHOP 2 at MAS - Hangar 100 DAYS = AIM+EIR+A&C P/S: OJT will cover most of the hangar production lines except propeller. Workshop will cover mostly all a total of 16 workshop include mechanical and avionics. Links: Politeknik Sultan Salahuddin Abdul Aziz Shah (PSA) This post has been edited by JohnMax: Jan 9 2010, 11:25 PM

XxAC3xX	Feb 6 2009, 10:50 PM Show posts by this member only \|This post's rating (0+, 0-) \| Post #63
Getting Started Group: Junior Member Posts: 208 Ratings earned: 0+, 0- Ratings given: 0+, 0- Joined: Feb 2008 From: dun even noe whr da hell m i	» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(JohnMax @ Feb 6 2009, 09:41 PM) Complete Guide : How to enter Polytechnic Diploma Aircraft Maintenance (DAM) Course and PROS AND CONS. REQUIREMENTS APPLICATION FOR ADMISSION INTO POLITEKNIK KPT FOR HOLDER OF SPM CERTIFICATE Course: DIPLOMA IN AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE 1.Malaysian Citizen. 2.Holder of Malaysia Certificate of Education or Malaysia Certificate of Education (Vocational) and fulfilling the minimum requirement as follows: Obtain 6(SIX) Credits including: a) Bahasa Melayu or Bahasa Malaysia b) English Language c) Mathematics or Additional Mathematics d) Science or Physics 3.Not eligible for Colour Blind *Not offered for January Session (Mean that there is only offer once a year, intake will direct took from the intake of July for January Session. For thoes who register at January Session, there will be no offer of this course.) Total semester is 5. APPLICATION FOR ADMISSION INTO POLITECHINIC Application can be made after SPM results is announced that week. Advertisment can found at Newspaper and Internet here. There are 3 level to compete to get the course. Level 1 : To be the selected one to proceed to level 2. Reason too many competitor. Level 2 : To Pass the written Test. English Test and IQ Test. Level 3 : To Pass the interview session. I will explain to you one by one. Level 1: To be the selected to proceed to level 2. Meet the requirement set in the application or better. (Colour Blind will test at level 3). Level 2: To Pass the written Test. English Test and IQ Test. Normal English Test, for thoes who have good english there is no problems with it. e.g. The door is ______. closed, close, closing. Haha Simple? IQ Test, this is testing your IQ including Maths, English. The writting part is the worst. Asking the question that OMG, 10 questions I able to answer one only... (really) but the rest you try to write something on it as I do cause in aviation although you do not know the answer you have to put a answer for it also. There is chances to get correct. In the English test it consist of valves, fuel flow. That time when I 0% knew about the thing, I though is about car simple thing. But after study in aviation, question are some related. But you will not notice is bring from aviation but car. Hehe Total Time : I forget already, maybe (1hr 15 or 1hr 35minutes for both papers together-2 papers at one time.) After this you must wait results for the interview. If you does not get it, than sorry you are elaminate from the program. Level 3 : To Pass the interview session What I tell is what happen to me at my time 2007. And Im second batch who attached to this program. Firslty will be a Colour blind test. If you failed than you can direct walk back, no need to proceed for interview. (This happen before for a Chinese student who like aviation but colour blind.) you will be group up in a 10 people group. Than went into a room and start with a test which is to find out ur personality. Second, There will be a group discussion. It give you limitted time like 40 minutes for 10 of you to discuss and present it. Marks given for cooporative. So make sure you do together and really discuss. So make sure what you think first before speak cause this is also a mind challenge. You will donno what you are talking. Take the initialtive to talk and please speak english that can be understand by people. No Malay language please cause marks is given. Third, After that you will be oder to choose 2 from the 10 listed on the paper. For my time is, Repair Electronic stuff, Become a Leader, and bla bla bla forget edi. Cause all papers are prohibited to bring out same as aviation examination. Than the interview start. Really they will ask you questions about aviation and the form you fill up. Questions are like : -What you control to turn the aircraft. -What is black box. many many more.... -killer question : Why you choose this course. Haha prepare for it lah. After this you wait for your results to come out. If you get if congrat. If you failed and still like it, so choice, MIAT, Nilai or somewhere... Money need to use for study this course:* RM 200 (FEES) + RM120 (POLY) = RM320 Per Semester (Optional RM60 for hostel at Poly) (Bus Provided to and back from Poly to MAS) Total for 5 Semester (5th Semester no need to pay)= RM 1280. Scholarship Available - PTPTN, JPA, Kuok Foundation, Yayasan and more. EASA Part 66 - CAT A Course details. Semester 1 PSA -------- MORAL STUDY 1 PSA -------- ENGLISH FOR TECHNICAL PURPOSES 1 MODULE 1 - MATHEMATICS MODULE 2 - PHYSICS MODULE 6 - MATERIAL AND HARDWARE(MCQ) MODULE 6 - MATERIAL DAN HARDWARE(ASP) PSA --------- TECHNICAL COMMUNICATION PSA --------- INDUSTRIAL SAFETY MODULE 7 - MAINTENANCE PRACTICES(MCQ) MODULE 7 - MAINTENANCE PRACTICES(ESSAY) PSA --------- COMPUTER APPLICATION PSA --------- KO KUIKULUM 1 Semester 2 PSA ---------- MORAL STUDY 2 PSA ---------- ENLISH FOR TECHNICAL PURPOSE 2 PSA ---------- KO KURIKULUM 2 MODULE 11 - AEROPLANE AERODYNAMICS, STRUCTURES AND SYSTEMS - METC Books, MAS Instuctors. MODULE 8 - BASIC AERODYNAMIC AIRCRAFT SUPPORT WORKSHOP 1 at MAS - WORKSHOP 40 days AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE WORKSHOP 1 at MAS - HANGAR 24 days + AIM (Aircraft Interior Maintenance) MAS Company Procedures at MAS Industrial Safety at MAS Semester 3 OJT - AIRCRAFT SUPPORT WORKSHOP 2 at MAS - Hangar 100 days + AIM B747-400 Systems Gen.Fam. at MAS - My batch 3ppl include me B777-x00 Systems Gen.Fam. at MAS - All my batch exclude 3ppl include me. B737-300 Systems Gen.Fam. at MAS ETOPS at MAS I Until here Sem 4 must wait for updated_________________________________________________________________________ Semester 4 MODULE 15 - GAS TURBINE ENGINE MODULE 17 - PROPELLER MODULE 10 - AVIATION LEGISLATION MODULE 9 - HUMAN FACTOR MODULE 3 - FUNDAMENTAL ELECTRIC MODULE 5 - DIGITAL TECHNIQUES MODULE 4 - FUNDAMENTAL ELECTRONIC AIRCRAFT SUPPORT WORKSHOP 2 at MAS - Workshop 40 days Semester 5 OJT - AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE WORKSHOP 2 at MAS - Hangar 100 DAYS + AIM I now is semester 3 and I can tell you until there. Semester 4 and 5 will add up. Like B747-400 Systes Gen.Fam. I also do not know we must attend it. So semester 4 and 5 Fix is there add on will later edit. CONS - DAM building is just on constuction+workshop+hangar(donno). (Currently using Mechanical Department) - When OJT there is no salary as who want to be train in MAS must pay. - If no guide, you do no know what you do after this. - Still be white mouse testing this and that, just recieved one big huge task.... - No expert lnstructors (waiting new lecturer from Galmorgan) - Not attach to Lines Maintenance at KLIA. - Still waiting news from MAS. - ( COMING SOON ) PROS - You can forward your studies to UniKL Miat, University of Galmorgan in UK for BSc (Hons) Aircraft Maintenance Engineering, they recongnize Poly CAT A. One of our senior get local scholarship and forward this University. - Direct attach to LIVE aircraft with real working environment. - Can collect work experiences for DCA and EASA - xx% absorb to MAS after graduate (wait for senior). - You learn how to communicate with LAE and other people so as well. - Study under MAS instructors. - We attach to all the Hangar Production Lines From Hangar 1 at Terminal 3 until Base Hangar 2, 3 and 4. - We attach to all the Workshop in MAS include seat bay, except machine, wheels shop and store. - Affortable to study. - Bus provided to go until MAS and back to Poly. - ( COMING SOON ) To go for LWTR, you can take with by yourself when absorb to MAS. EASA and DCA. Currently waiting for the First Batch news and new program to forward DAM in MAS to updated this post. XxAC3xX , is this what you want also??? Added on February 6, 2009, 9:58 pmAnd today I found out that the fresh LAE basic is RM1900+RM1000(Allowance)=RM2900 Not yet + OT....... and type rating.... yup tats wat i wan!! great job john max!! bt it would b helpful if u could mention the duration for each process/sem. until u graduated could sum1 provide a guide like wat john max did for MIAT, Nilai n more? the effort would b much appreciated!! btw gt sum question 2 ask: 1. dca,easa n bcar r diff systems which provide diff license? i heard tat we nid 2 convert the easa license to DCA/LWTR??? 2. so after i graduated frm those institutions like MIAT,Nilai,polytech... -ill b provided a diploma cert. n LWTR ?? -ill b able 2 work as a LAE in MAS,AA,Transmile? o i nid 2 undergo more training 2 b LAE? 3. plz tell me the available path n duration for each path to b able to work in MAS/AA/Transmile etc 4. since LWTR requires 2yrs workin exp, so after gettin LWTR, we cn work as a LAE in MAS/AA etc alrdy??? 5. wat it means by type rating?? izzit diff aircraft nids diff license? o izzit means diff parts o the aircraft like radio, engine, airframe, electrical?? uhh..sumtimes i dun really noe wanna ask wat...so confusing... btw, time, cost n chances on gettin employed of dis career matters alot to me...plz provide me sum info bout it... This post has been edited by XxAC3xX*: Feb 6 2009, 11:37 PM

azameel	Feb 7 2009, 12:24 AM Show posts by this member only \|This post's rating (0+, 0-) \| Post #64
Getting Started Group: Junior Member Posts: 181 Ratings earned: 0+, 0- Ratings given: 0+, 0- Joined: Nov 2006	OMG. The selection is a lot harder than Tame Mas LWTR is License Without Type Rating you cannot work on aircraft yet, you need to have the type rating. Let say if you got a A licence from DCA, you cant work on any aircraft yet, then you take the 737-400 type rating, now u can work on the aircraft already, but only on the task you can approved (Airframe), you cant work on the engine.If you take the C license, now u can work on both of A and C, if you want to work on other aircraft eg 777-200, you need to take the 777 type rating, which means u will get more coverage, and more allowances. Both Easa and Bcar license is called LWTR, but the type rating is issued by the company eg Mas, Air Asia etc. So after you grads, you still need to undergo training, it is the type rating, and company courses If im not mistaken, converting from Easa to Bcar license is just the matter of sitting for a Air Legislation paper. For Bcar license, we need to change to Easa later on, cause DCA are in the way of converting to Easa For Mas they only take LAE with type rating only. If you got an Easa license, you can easily look for jobs overseas QUOTE And today I found out that the fresh LAE basic is RM1900+RM1000(Allowance)=RM2900 Not yet + OT....... and type rating.... which company is this? i thought the basic is 2k+, +Rm1000 technical allowance +Rm1xx Shift Allowance +RM50 Laundry Allowance + Dunno what else, first type rating wont get allowance If u got a wide body license for (second type rating n above), i heard the allowance is RM1000 and for narrow body is Rm500 QUOTE cause in aviation although you do not know the answer you have to put a answer for it also. There is chances to get correct. This is a big no-no in aviation, if you dont know, ask someone who knows (not in exam), never hesitate, you'll be playing with hundreds of life, you must get it 100% right, you shouldnt be playing with chances a quote i heard from someone QUOTE The difference between a doctor and an LAE -If a doctor messed up, one life would be gone, If LAE messed up, hundreds of life would be gone This post has been edited by azameel: Feb 7 2009, 12:47 AM

XxAC3xX	Feb 7 2009, 12:55 AM Show posts by this member only \|This post's rating (0+, 0-) \| Post #65
Getting Started Group: Junior Member Posts: 208 Ratings earned: 0+, 0- Ratings given: 0+, 0- Joined: Feb 2008 From: dun even noe whr da hell m i	QUOTE(azameel @ Feb 7 2009, 12:24 AM) OMG. The selection is a lot harder than Tame Mas LWTR is License Without Type Rating you cannot work on aircraft yet, you need to have the type rating. Let say if you got a A licence from DCA, you cant work on any aircraft yet, then you take the 737-400 type, now u can work on the aircraft already, but only on the task you can approved (Airframe), you cant work on the engine. If you take the C license, now u can work on both of A and C, if you want to work on other aircraft eg 777-200, you need to take the 777 type rating, which means u will get more coverage, and more allowances. Both Easa and Bcar license is called LWTR, but the type rating is issued by the company eg Mas, Air Asia etc. So after you grads, you still need to undergo training, it is the type rating, and company courses If im not mistaken, converting from Easa to Bcar license is just the matter of sitting for a Air Legislation paper. For Bcar license, we need to change to Easa later on, cause DCA are in the way of converting to Easa For Mas they only take LAE with type rating only. If you got an Easa license, you can easily look for jobs overseas which company is this? i thought tyhe basic is 2k+, +Rm1000 technical allowance +Rm1xx Shift Allowance +RM50 Laundry Allowance + Dunno what else, first type rating wont get allowance If u got a wide body license for (second type rating n above), i heard the allowance is RM1000 and for narrow body is Rm500 This is a big no-no in aviation, if you dont know, ask someone who knows (not in exam), never hesitate, you'll be playing with hundreds of life, you must get it 100% right (Sorry bad english) a quote i heard from someone oic...so it means tat i hav 2 choose Cat B1 (EASA) to study 1st then take LWTR exam 2 get tat license which is only eligible 4 me 2 repair A,C,E parts on every aircraft oni rite? -roughly hw long 4 a person 2 obtain LWTR? the fastest to get is hw long? hw much does it cost in the whole process? -so hw do i obtain the type rating? the lae in tat company will teach us until we qualify 2 repair them? o we nid 2 study n sit for exam? require $$? time consuming?? -LAE is all bout studying while working to obtain more type rating izzit?

jazzy939	Feb 7 2009, 01:05 AM Show posts by this member only \|This post's rating (0+, 0-) \| Post #66
s'wonderful! Group: Senior Member Posts: 5,250 Ratings earned: 0+, 0- Ratings given: 0+, 0- Joined: May 2005 From: Beaumont, Baile Ath Cliath, EIRE.	Oh really? Says who? QUOTE(azameel @ Feb 7 2009, 12:24 AM) So after you grads, you still need to undergo training, it is the type rating, and company courses If im not mistaken, converting from Easa to Bcar license is just the matter of sitting for a Air Legislation paper. For Bcar license, we need to change to Easa later on, cause DCA are in the way of converting to Easa

azameel	Feb 7 2009, 01:14 AM Show posts by this member only \|This post's rating (0+, 0-) \| Post #67
Getting Started Group: Junior Member Posts: 181 Ratings earned: 0+, 0- Ratings given: 0+, 0- Joined: Nov 2006	QUOTE(XxAC3xX @ Feb 7 2009, 12:55 AM) oic...so it means tat i hav 2 choose Cat B1 (EASA) to study 1st then take LWTR exam 2 get tat license which is only eligible 4 me 2 repair A,C,E parts on every aircraft oni rite? -roughly hw long 4 a person 2 obtain LWTR? the fastest to get is hw long? hw much does it cost in the whole process? -so hw do i obtain the type rating? the lae in tat company will teach us until we qualify 2 repair them? o we nid 2 study n sit for exam? require $$? time consuming?? -LAE is all bout studying while working to obtain more type rating izzit? yup,(for EASA) you study B1, once you finished it you have to take the conversion exam (air leg) than you will get the LWTR im not sure which one is the fastest, maybe we have to wait for lestat race to finish but basically it should be around 5 years in average. to obtain the type rating, we need the recommendation from the foreman, than we will have the type courses, than we should then take the exam by the company, there is written and oral exam.but if we work at ASU, getting new type is easy, since time is limited in ASU so they prefer lae to have multi coverage the more type rating you got the more allowance you got, QUOTE Oh really? Says who? hmm.gif i have no solid reference, but thats what i heard from training school and from a lot of people in MAS thats why i started of with Easa license, but then revert to Bcar since mas training school couldnt get part 147. they even changed the maximum working hours daily, maximum of 6 continous working days etc, and they said it is easa regulation plz correct me if im wrong btw, may i know where u work jazzy btw, im still a trainee not yet an lae This post has been edited by azameel: Feb 7 2009, 01:17 AM

jazzy939	Feb 7 2009, 06:41 AM Show posts by this member only \|This post's rating (0+, 0-) \| Post #68
s'wonderful! Group: Senior Member Posts: 5,250 Ratings earned: 0+, 0- Ratings given: 0+, 0- Joined: May 2005 From: Beaumont, Baile Ath Cliath, EIRE.	My last conversation with the technical training manager of MAS, he said MAS will be reverting back to BCAR Section L when they're going to re-start apprenticeship training. I used to work in MAS I am an LAME. My sources in DCA said that as far as EASA is concerned, there are no requirements as such for us to change/convert. Our BCAR Section L still works and applicable(which I fully agree). TheBCAR Section L is part of MCAR. We need to change/revised the MCAR first, which will take 'some time'... Even IF DCA were to adopt EASA-66, it is obviously with changes/modifications to suit our requirements and situations, and it is STILL will be DCA's AMEL. We're NOT part of the EU. There are issues with the EU and there reasons why the need for them to use a common standard, hence the EASA-66. QUOTE(azameel @ Feb 7 2009, 01:14 AM) ........ the more type rating you got the more allowance you got, i have no solid reference, but thats what i heard from training school and from a lot of people in MAS thats why i started of with Easa license, but then revert to Bcar since mas training school couldnt get part 147. they even changed the maximum working hours daily, maximum of 6 continous working days etc, and they said it is easa regulation plz correct me if im wrong btw, may i know where u work jazzy btw, im still a trainee not yet an lae This post has been edited by jazzy939: Feb 7 2009, 06:50 AM

JohnMax	Feb 7 2009, 10:50 AM Show posts by this member only \|This post's rating (0+, 0-) \| Post #69
Getting Started Group: Junior Member Posts: 258 Ratings earned: 0+, 0- Ratings given: 0+, 0- Joined: Jul 2007 From: A Place call Die no one knows..	QUOTE(azameel @ Feb 7 2009, 12:24 AM) OMG. The selection is a lot harder than Tame Mas This is a big no-no in aviation, if you dont know, ask someone who knows (not in exam), never hesitate, you'll be playing with hundreds of life, you must get it 100% right, you shouldnt be playing with chances a quote i heard from someone Hard is not if your english is good, cause people who knew this course is less and people think polytechnic is low education so the pros will not concern. Like us, your english is far beyond, 100% you welcome in cause other is not so good. My group 10 only 2 can speak english, me and an indian now also my batch. the rest gone... I mean is in examination, not in real aircraft. Don't tell me that you do not know and you want to leave it blank? As Mr.Satish told us to do.

azameel	Feb 7 2009, 01:28 PM Show posts by this member only \|This post's rating (0+, 0-) \| Post #70
Getting Started Group: Junior Member Posts: 181 Ratings earned: 0+, 0- Ratings given: 0+, 0- Joined: Nov 2006	owh, thanks jazzy, that mean our bcar license will still work, there is no need to convert to easa license is it? but having easa license means you are easier to get jobs oversea right? QUOTE(JohnMax @ Feb 7 2009, 10:50 AM) Hard is not if your english is good, cause people who knew this course is less and people think polytechnic is low education so the pros will not concern. Like us, your english is far beyond, 100% you welcome in cause other is not so good. My group 10 only 2 can speak english, me and an indian now also my batch. the rest gone... I mean is in examination, not in real aircraft. Don't tell me that you do not know and you want to leave it blank? As Mr.Satish told us to do. i mean comparing with tame mas which is only 1.To be selected 2.aptitude test (math,english,IQ) 3.Interview 4.Medical Checkup and i think few of my friends did the interview in malay owh, for the exam, of course i know, luckily for us now there is no more negative marking, last time, there is, meaning if you didnt answer you'll loose 1 mark if u answer wrongly, you.ll loose 1.5 mark so that time you just cant shoot if u dont know the answer This post has been edited by azameel: Feb 7 2009, 01:30 PM

XxAC3xX	Feb 7 2009, 02:57 PM Show posts by this member only \|This post's rating (0+, 0-) \| Post #71
Getting Started Group: Junior Member Posts: 208 Ratings earned: 0+, 0- Ratings given: 0+, 0- Joined: Feb 2008 From: dun even noe whr da hell m i	QUOTE(azameel @ Feb 7 2009, 01:28 PM) owh, thanks jazzy, that mean our bcar license will still work, there is no need to convert to easa license is it? but having easa license means you are easier to get jobs oversea right? i mean comparing with tame mas which is only 1.To be selected 2.aptitude test (math,english,IQ) 3.Interview 4.Medical Checkup and i think few of my friends did the interview in malay owh, for the exam, of course i know, luckily for us now there is no more negative marking, last time, there is, meaning if you didnt answer you'll loose 1 mark if u answer wrongly, you.ll loose 1.5 mark so that time you just cant shoot if u dont know the answer -erm, for a spm leaver, the best is to do tame in mas/aa/etc ? cheapest n fastest rite? -AA n MAS recognize Bcar? so im recomended 2 do bcar betta 2 b able 2 work thr? -wonder when is the intake for tame of mas n aa dis year...(eligible for spm leaver..) -will i get employed n recognition after graduate frm MIAT/Nilai by MAS/AA? ahh...dunno which path 2 choose...do it in MIAT/Nilai or tame prog by MAS/AA... any recommendation pros here? btw, thx for answering my questions....mayb my questions is too much....><

azameel	Feb 7 2009, 03:27 PM Show posts by this member only \|This post's rating (0+, 0-) \| Post #72
Getting Started Group: Junior Member Posts: 181 Ratings earned: 0+, 0- Ratings given: 0+, 0- Joined: Nov 2006	IMHO tame in any airlines is the best(even if the training school is a bit messed up), everything is there for u, all u have to do is complete the course and u confrim work with them, in fact im considered mas staff already with benefits, epf etc. its not the cheapest, basically its free, in fact im getting monthly allowance, but very little only, might need support from parents, an the payback is 10 years of bond, meaning i have to work 10 years in mas as an lame, if i breach the contract i have to pay the bond which cost RM167k for the 10 yrs for mas tame there is no more intake, even after my intake they already took diploma leaver lucky for me coz my batch is the last spm intake. for aa im not sure on their program, i just heard they got their trainee of their own but dunno the details about it. second would be the nilai, coz you'll be getting lwtr, this is just my own opinion yes AA and mas recognize bcar. coz they are following dca, in fact any company in malaysia recognize bcar if u got an lwtr license, it recognize almost everywhere in the world, especially if u got the easa lwtr some info for Nilai University College (NUC) aircraft maintenance course Diploma in Aircraft Maintenance (NUC) NIUC Aircraft Maintenance FAQ EASA part66 Exam in NUC This post has been edited by azameel: Feb 7 2009, 03:40 PM

bonzaimy	Feb 7 2009, 03:54 PM Show posts by this member only \|This post's rating (0+, 0-) \| Post #73
On my way Group: Senior Member Posts: 664 Ratings earned: 0+, 0- Ratings given: 0+, 0- Joined: Sep 2006 From: Shah Alam	Guys, Im planning to go sit for B2 courses in Switzeland. Its more reliable and shortcorse and only took 2 month to finish for module 5-14.Other than that module(B2 only) you have to sit for others month. Well, I just got the info yesterday from my friend and told my parent bout it and they said OK. Well, the ebst thing bout this course is, i can take whatever module that i wish to. I already completed module 1,2,3,4,7,6,8,9 and still got more halfway to go. Eventhough they conduct an exam here in Britsih Council, im still have a doubt about module 13. Yes, that's the toughest module in B2 and since the course offer for module 13 at outside is freaking expensive( can up 20 15k) I then decide to just jump into this course. I want to know if there any of you guys or maybe some of your friends attended this course that been conducted in Switzeland before? And how is it? Easy to pass? And can DCA/QA simply rejected my certificate that i get after I've completed this course?

jazzy939	Feb 7 2009, 06:09 PM Show posts by this member only \|This post's rating (0+, 0-) \| Post #74
s'wonderful! Group: Senior Member Posts: 5,250 Ratings earned: 0+, 0- Ratings given: 0+, 0- Joined: May 2005 From: Beaumont, Baile Ath Cliath, EIRE.	The ICAO Type II license which our DCA's AMEL is, is still readily accepted especially in the middle east. IF you wanna work with 9M registered aircrafts, it is suffice to hold the DCA's AMEL. And you you want to venture out.. go with EASA. QUOTE(azameel @ Feb 7 2009, 01:28 PM) owh, thanks jazzy, that mean our bcar license will still work, there is no need to convert to easa license is it?

jazzy939	Feb 7 2009, 06:12 PM Show posts by this member only \|This post's rating (0+, 0-) \| Post #75
s'wonderful! Group: Senior Member Posts: 5,250 Ratings earned: 0+, 0- Ratings given: 0+, 0- Joined: May 2005 From: Beaumont, Baile Ath Cliath, EIRE.	Yes, they can. Especially places where they do it in a 'short' time. Quality vs quantity issues. QUOTE(bonzaimy @ Feb 7 2009, 03:54 PM) ..... I want to know if there any of you guys or maybe some of your friends attended this course that been conducted in Switzeland before? And how is it? Easy to pass? And can DCA/QA simply rejected my certificate that i get after I've completed this course?

bonzaimy	Feb 7 2009, 07:40 PM Show posts by this member only \|This post's rating (0+, 0-) \| Post #76
On my way Group: Senior Member Posts: 664 Ratings earned: 0+, 0- Ratings given: 0+, 0- Joined: Sep 2006 From: Shah Alam	But if DCA reject my cert, I still can work with any other European airlines? Well, that's the main point now.

jazzy939	Feb 7 2009, 09:08 PM Show posts by this member only \|This post's rating (0+, 0-) \| Post #77
s'wonderful! Group: Senior Member Posts: 5,250 Ratings earned: 0+, 0- Ratings given: 0+, 0- Joined: May 2005 From: Beaumont, Baile Ath Cliath, EIRE.	Of course! I won't lose any sleep over it! QUOTE(bonzaimy @ Feb 7 2009, 07:40 PM) But if DCA reject my cert, I still can work with any other European airlines? Well, that's the main point now.

khye89	Feb 7 2009, 09:20 PM Show posts by this member only \|This post's rating (0+, 0-) \| Post #78
Newbie Group: Junior Member Posts: 7 Ratings earned: 0+, 0- Ratings given: 0+, 0- Joined: Dec 2008	QUOTE(JohnMax @ Feb 7 2009, 10:50 AM) Hard is not if your english is good, cause people who knew this course is less and people think polytechnic is low education so the pros will not concern. Like us, your english is far beyond, 100% you welcome in cause other is not so good. My group 10 only 2 can speak english, me and an indian now also my batch. the rest gone... I mean is in examination, not in real aircraft. Don't tell me that you do not know and you want to leave it blank? As Mr.Satish told us to do. excuse me MR JOHN, tat mean i also don't know how to speak English la...WTH is tat...i same group with u what...hahaha Added on February 7, 2009, 9:30 pm QUOTE(azameel @ Feb 7 2009, 12:24 AM) OMG. The selection is a lot harder than Tame Mas LWTR is License Without Type Rating you cannot work on aircraft yet, you need to have the type rating. Let say if you got a A licence from DCA, you cant work on any aircraft yet, then you take the 737-400 type rating, now u can work on the aircraft already, but only on the task you can approved (Airframe), you cant work on the engine.If you take the C license, now u can work on both of A and C, if you want to work on other aircraft eg 777-200, you need to take the 777 type rating, which means u will get more coverage, and more allowances. Both Easa and Bcar license is called LWTR, but the type rating is issued by the company eg Mas, Air Asia etc. So after you grads, you still need to undergo training, it is the type rating, and company courses a quote i heard from someone erm..tat mean if tat time i just work as a contract staff(mechanic) in MAS,and i get my EASA license and still waiting for type rating,i still a mechanic? This post has been edited by khye89: Feb 7 2009, 09:30 PM

jazzy939	Feb 7 2009, 09:49 PM Show posts by this member only \|This post's rating (0+, 0-) \| Post #79
s'wonderful! Group: Senior Member Posts: 5,250 Ratings earned: 0+, 0- Ratings given: 0+, 0- Joined: May 2005 From: Beaumont, Baile Ath Cliath, EIRE.	khye89, "LWTR is License Without Type Rating you cannot work on aircraft yet, you need to have the type rating." Not entirely correct. There's no problem about working on the aircraft, it is just that you are not doing any CERTIFICATIONS with regards to release to service, the work and the aircraft. Here is what I see the EASA licensing is all about. In a nutshell, it enables technician/mechanics to have license and the authority to certify and /or release aircraft and aircraft related work. Just like the FAA mechanics. Are you an engineer? Not in EASA you don't have to. It's just a position and/or grade in the company that employs you. This post has been edited by jazzy939: Feb 7 2009, 09:52 PM

khye89	Feb 7 2009, 09:56 PM Show posts by this member only \|This post's rating (0+, 0-) \| Post #80
Newbie Group: Junior Member Posts: 7 Ratings earned: 0+, 0- Ratings given: 0+, 0- Joined: Dec 2008	QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Feb 7 2009, 09:49 PM) khye89, "LWTR is License Without Type Rating you cannot work on aircraft yet, you need to have the type rating." Not entirely correct. There's no problem about working on the aircraft, it is just that you are not doing any CERTIFICATIONS with regards to release to service, the work and the aircraft. Here is what I see the EASA licensing is all about. In a nutshell, it enables technician/mechanics to have license and the authority to certify and /or release aircraft and aircraft related work. Just like the FAA mechanics. Are you an engineer? Not in EASA you don't have to. It's just a position and/or grade in the company that employs you. yup...i get it...thanks...

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