apisgogo already answer this, it depends too, if ur portfolio looks like crap, u'll get a crappy salary doesnt matter if u're holding a master or PhD (or the other PhD.., but if the boss is a desperate housewife, ur chance might be brighter). it also depends on your performance.

read back my post. got addon

ahahaha
sorry2, in this case, all have to be blame, u and the employer

This post has been edited by ghoster: Jan 16 2009, 12:36 AM

i was about to tell you not to spam like that.

from my experience, this country generally has low appreciation of design skills.

in my business, i met so many people. some are reasonable but many are bugging for low low low low prices. wah they think design so easy like that - NO COST MAH, YOUR HEAD ONLY........ yeah, right......

sorry about that, edited.

u should know that employer also trying their best to get GREAT DEAL WITH MINIMUM COST. i think u got tricked my em shook. did u nego the salary?

and, why u even join em if u know they under pay u?

that's why 3 months only

agree.



my bad also.

nego but like i post before. because of "no experience with 'related' field"
*i'm from publishing field. more to magazine layout

next week got interview with NST. hope everything goes well and they offer me best price

This post has been edited by shook: Jan 16 2009, 12:55 AM

staying true to the spirit of the thread.

previous company i worked with 2 years ago (a multimedia software dev company)

junior graphic designer (3 olang): rm2.2k
senior graphic designer (otai, 1 only): rm3.2k

best way to earn more is to go cross discipline. unless you're awesome, it's just hard for a graphic designer to break rm3k in his first 5 years of working.

among the choices i think you might benefit from:
1. statistician (data visualization, read edward tufte to get a rough idea)
2. flash/flex programmer (even illustrator and photoshop is scriptable with javascript now )

everytime you go out of your comfort zone your salary increase a little.

my fren. after 2 years, got RM3K but goverment lor

In my case, last time when i was doing my graphic/ad internship (around 2005 and I was totally fresh) at this ad agency, for the 1st month i get paid like RM250, then the 2nd month I'm earning RM1.5k for my internship.

Then, as for the 3rd month (end of internship) i was offered a position of Senior Graphic Artist (in the same company) with permanent status, earning 2.7k. Then after 1.5 years after that I promoted to my position now, a Art Director.

now u tell me, is it impossible for fresh grad to get nice big salary? in my experience it is possible.

Like I've said before on my post, u need to be pro-active. Bring something different on the table. position yourself as a solution rather than just a fat-ass-lazy-employee waiting for monthly salary to come.

Last time I was doing all the monkey job that u could think off to get my position now. u want something u have to earn it.

A lot of people (mostly my close friends) strongly recommend me to setup my own ad agency because of i already have few sets of retaining clients (currently i served under this company that i worked) that can support. But i didn't. I think the main reason here is that my employer knows how to handle and 'take-care' of me. Now im looking forward and working my ass out loud to become partner to my employer. So my point here, choosing the right employer also can be a main catalyst for you to move forward.

But nevertheless, follow my guidelines (as in my previous post; attending interviews), and u'll be fine.

today we have a lots of graphic designers, freelancers and also wannabes. you have to distinguish yourself well in order to have an edge.

oh btw, my company (the co that worked now) is not a Bumi (even im a Bumi) and none of our clients is coming from Gov tenders. (coz we all know all the Bumi ad agency reaping and taking advantage of the gov jobs and tenders thus getting rich quite fast). No to be racist but to prove a point that everybody can do great things if you put your mind and effort to it.

rezeki tuhan. maybe my rezeki still at this average thanks god. still survive
sometimes depends on our lucks. u work hard/smart but still our bosses not appreciate our effort.

here my experience, i work hard and they (bos & clients) like all my works but very cheapskate about payment. after a year for all my hard work and my boss still not "take-care" my 'welfare', i become a fat-ass-lazy-employee waiting for monthly salary to come. then resign.

good pay
what a lucky boy

good pay? heh, the amount of work and nonsense i had to go through.

LOL, "good pay". a webmaster that do the thing goldfries listed is insane. nowdays webmaster do less than that and get hgiher pay

u have a good boss... and sure u are lucky ..... 1.5 year can be director... is excellent.... increment also a lot... 250 to 1.5 k and 2.7 k.... is jumping more than 1 k .... can tell how much u getting now? 10 k ? salary for art director is it 10 k minimum?

I would not say I'm 100% lucky (maybe 30% luck). But i indeed work my ass off. Doing all the monkey donkey works.

Before i join, this company is only focusing on design design design, layout layout, nothing further. Then after i joined, i changed the way on how the company delivering services; instead of just design, we offer a complete marketing/advertising solutions to our clients.

another thing, previously this company cant do any reliable web services. Since i came, we able to handle all those web 2.0 applications, focusing on SMEs, successfully. I put all my efforts to deploy this services.

Also, I handle the company studios in overall. Means that I'm the IT technician, and so on. Even park my boss's car!

These only the tip of iceberg of what i brought on to the company that I'm working now. Not to brag, but to prove to you all that you need to be pro-active in order to get ahead. luck will only get you moving, but u need to push your limits to reach your destinations.

I managed to prove to my boss that I'm an assets not a liability.

Currently I'm holding 2 degrees; Creative arts and Business, specializing in Entrepreneurship.

I will not reveal my salary tho.

This post has been edited by apisgogo: Jan 16 2009, 06:22 PM

aww. well, at least tell us what car you drive.

This post has been edited by yojimbo512: Jan 16 2009, 10:30 PM

I totally agree with this line. Because of doing just that, mine increased more than 100%, surprising myself.

NSTP? cool, stick to that job. i have a friend there, shift job, designer too.

but i should warn u, broadcasting/publishing company is a very hard job to do, a simple MINOR mistake would have u fired, even a spelling error can make the whole company looks stupid. so, make sure u ready for it i know coz im working with a similar company

Job Title: Web Designer
Salary: < 2k
Experience: almost 2 years
Opinion for my job: No matter how good I am... I'm still supporting roll... Basically I handle anything that require "Design". I'm not just design website but also mainly in system interface design. Previously there are few more designer around...now I'm all alone...

any Product Designers here?Sorry for being off topic.Im still a student.