what kind of designer you are ? n how much of your salary ? step in this field how many year? hehe i'm a design student now...


EXAMPLE

Job Title:
Salary:
Experience:
Opinion for my job:

Job Title: Graphic Designer
Salary: RM1600
Experience: 3 years
Opinion for my job: sux


*got experience but they want degree so gaji rendah
when u got degree they want experience pula

Job Title: graphic designer/ motion graphic

skills: photoshop, after effect, lightwave, flash, illustrator, and some photography knowledge. all are very essential for my work.

certificate: diploma from a college with bad reputation

Salary: enough for me. with 2 month bonus every year, and performance bonus, plus raise every year depend on my performance. got epf deduction, employers epf, medical insurance card (no need to fill in form)

Experience: 2-3 years

Opinion for my job: my current job is the best i've had so far. i dont have much salary, but so what? i only work for 2-3 years, what i get is what i deserve, all that matters is it pay the bills, and i still have a few hundreds to spend. all my boss have been great to me, no intense, no pressure (eer..., no pressure from them, but the work is ), hardly get any yell, never actually. great work space (HP workstation for graphic designers, MAC pro for promo guys), people all very nice. my work, well sometimes it can be damn busy till i cant even fart, but sometimes, i can even sleep till my shift is over.

i see lots of great designers with outstanding skills giving up hope, always whining with their job, talk crap about their bosses, feel undervalue. well dont, just be grateful with what u have, keep on working hard, i know someday, all those hard work will pay, i've been there, working with some shitty company. sometimes the bad comes from us.

This post has been edited by ghoster: Jan 15 2009, 12:40 AM

Job Title: Web/Interactive Designer
Salary: less than 2300
Experience: 2.5 years
work place: our neighbour country (the kiasi kiasu land)
job scope: web design (flash website, static website), web promotion material (banner, edm, microsite, ecard), simple cooperate video
Opinion for my job: (please bear with my long winded ranting)

conclusion: high pressure, high demand from client / boss , low pay (no OT pay), long hour (10-12 hours), require lots of passion, need to always update your skills (graphic design / flash coding & all sorts of internet technology).

Free lance for big company ftw...
Tat's wat my designer fren told me...

Good for you.
Diploma with bad reputation...what does that mean? lol

i think this has always been a trivial matter for designers all around the world especially south east asia where

designer == mcdonald waiter
programmer == dbkl uncle collect sampah

sad huh?
but i guess it's a 2-way round action needed to be taken in order to protect yourself. It's not always the 1-way wrong type of thing. Sure, a lot of malaysians and people are china-man minded and always put design value at last. But somehow I still think that there is where you need to stand up and evalute yourself, give a value to yourself, and proof it by your work (not only talking).

what i'm trying to say is (though sounds a bit cruel but it's kinda true) you work your a** the hard way by learn stuff that you can be very 'professional' in, which you not necessary need to know 100 skills, but if you have 1 skill you're really good in, i.e. flash actionscript, you can sell yourself a lot higher.

it does really makes a difference when people ask about your salary expectation, and you end up say "you like la, you boss ma". it's the WRONG-est answer ever, through life experience and work experience, i'm sure at least you grown a bit in value, so always re-evalute yourself. if you yourself also don't know where do you stand at, i think you have no right to say you get low pay.

but definitely let's face the truth, you won't be working for the rest of your life for other, you'll eventually turn to a boss and hire other people or be a creative director, unless you want to always stay at the designer range. or you just quit. (sad, but that's always happen)

totally agree. we must always put a price on ourselves during interview else ppl will just hire u as cheap labour. one thing being a designer is to build up a portfolio to proof that u r capable. having outstanding skills is a must, for my case i'm capable of doing both design and flash action scripting. although i don't master both skills (like high end action scripting or award winning creative design) but the skills of implementing both together is what makes my value. hope this will give some idea on how to improve the income of designer's position.

IMO, i dont really see designer will remain as a designer after 30 (income wont grow anymore). in fact designer will eventually go to position like account executive, art director, creative director, own boss etc. even u want to stay in designer range, for your price company might as well hire more fresh grad / junior designer to take over your position, since they have more up to date skills and art sense.

got interview next week. if they offer me with low salary for sure i'll further my study. degree.

i'm a event designer..
gotta work on stage designing..
salary bout rm 2200
my opiniion iz, need lotsa lotsa patience..cz de client usually vry f*cked up..geeezzz

I'm a art director in a medium sized advertising agency in KL. salary is normal for art director in Malaysia plus i reap a lots of commissions for bringing in jobs to the company.

from what i observed during interviews (finding graphic designer for my company), 90% of them (which is totally fresh, without working experience) don't possess a strong and influential portfolio. This will translate to lower salary offered to them. They always shows portfolio (samples of designs) that comes from their course work. To creative employer, this is not preferable (because of the samples for your coursework might not originally or 100% comes for the person itself, might be guided by lecturer or a group work; you can just be sitting in that group doing nothing and reap the benefits). I understands that fresh grads don't have experience, thus don't have 'real' or published (which a client accepts and paid). So to overcome this (or to further demand your salary), try to do a sample (by your own) of few marketing collateral and show to your potential employer. Do a bit of layout (refer to stocklayouts.com or istockphoto) and presents it to your interviewer that this is what can be expected out of you.

You have to understand that employer (even in art/media/advertising industry) always wants results and outcome. So go ahead and be pro-active and prove it to your interviewer. Consider yourself as a solution, not just a product. This will increase you chance to get better salary.

and of course, even u are in art industry, try to dress professionally and speak English properly.

This post has been edited by apisgogo: Jan 15 2009, 01:13 PM

Job Title:
I am more a weird case. I graduate from an IT college with a software engineering degree, but looking for a designer job. Because of my IT background, I am like a hybrid of designer+programmer.

Salary:
secret

Experience:
4 years plus working with alot of different stuff. But mainly around this few areas like Flash games, Flash web, sms games(2D/3D).

Opinion for my job:
Current job is great. But due to recession and small company size. alot of slow payment -__-"

But anyway I agree with Siaukia, soon or late everyone will have their own company or atleast change to a more senior role.

all going to senior and boss... who wanna work..... lol

This post has been edited by night killer: Jan 15 2009, 04:52 PM

Most places I know look at the work rather than the degree. But RM1600 for 3 yrs experience is a little low. A lot of freshies come in to our place and ask for 2K these days. If the portfolio is good, they usually get what they ask for. But... some of them dun live up to their portfolios.

not my diploma, but my college, got bad reputation

so far all reply from designer sallary all low-low

have to consider the experience too, u cant expect 3-4 years experience with a very big salary, unless u're really2 good at it like our master lun

how much consider good?

for fresh grad u can get around RM1.6K and above but for 3 years experience its quit hard to get paid around RM2K

my previous company. greetings card company. i got 3 1/2 years experience. moderate skill for Indesign / Illustrator / Photoshop. they offer me RM1.6K only. they said because i'm not familiar with greeting card industry. so I ok la.

later after i join that company, got one fresh grad join also and only familiar with photoshop + basic illustrator without any experience. they paid him RM1.5K. so how. ????
feel so bad.

3 months only worked there. then cabut. for sure they kasi keje susah pada me everyday. very unfair and that kid cukup masa balik.

This post has been edited by shook: Jan 16 2009, 12:31 AM

back in like 2005, i was paid RM 2.2k to be webmaster for a particular tertiary education institution.

and my job was not just webmaster but also programmer, designer (for poster and such), web designer (site and it's updates), photographer (with my digital compact........ no one else does it. ) and the general monkey for doing many things la.

O.L.K. lor.