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Hey,

Just wondering if anyone else here has tried the new uTorrent 1.9.1 alpha with UTP (UDP transfer) support? I've been getting killer (150KB/s per foreign bittorrent/utorrent 1.8.1+ peer) speeds occasionally using UTP ONLY mode (bt.transp_disposition 10). The speed is unstable but can hit around 200KB/s on my 4mbit line without VPN/tunnel yawn.gif!

http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=49813

Set bt.transp_disposition to 10 in advanced settings to make your client use only UDP connections.. you'll see [utp] tag next to every connection in your peer list.

Other people seem to be having good results with it too :

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21497962-...vade-throttling

As proof, I've attached an SS of a torrent I added a minute or so ago.. this is a Korean peer at 50KB/s. Yesterday I had a few american (US flag) peers at 100-150KB/s. I've also noticed that I'm getting these high speeds mainly from BitTorrent 6.1.1 clients + uTP.


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UPDATE 10 August 2009 :

uTorrent 2.0 beta is out! Give it a spin smile.gif :

http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?pid=421542

Some changelog highlights :

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# uTP has been improved significantly over the previous alpha, with many bugs fixed and performance improvements. It's no longer hidden in Advanced settings.

- Fix: fixed uTP selective ack bug (would cause connections to stall and time out)
- Fix: fixed uTP fast re-send bug (would sometimes re-send packets that shouldn't be re-sent)
- Fix: uTP recovers faster after timeout
- Feature: uTP supports window sizes smaller than the packet size
- Change: reduced uTP overhead slightly by ramping up packet sizes at lower rates
- Feature: uTP can be enabled or disabled using "Enable bandwidth management" checkbox in Preferences
- Fix: uTP issue on low-latency high-throughput networks

- Feature: UDP tracker support


UTP improvements and UDP TRACKER SUPPORT ! I have yet to test it out myself though tongue.gif


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FAQ

Q : Why should bt.trans_disposition be set to 10 instead of the default 15?

A : Look here - http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=28065338

Q : What kind of speed increase am I looking at with this method?

A : I'm on a 4mbps line myself. I can download at 400+KB/s max. With this method + a good public tracker, I can easily download torrents at 430KB/s stable as opposed to 1KB/s without enabling UTP-only mode.

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interesting find....thanks
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It's weird, I've noticed these insane 100KB/s+ peer speeds from Bittorrent 6.x clients with uTP. I guess utorrent 1.8.1 didn't properly implement this function. Oh well, it's a step up from my constant peer disconnection + miserable 3kb/s speeds lol

Update : Now the highest speed peer on my previous torrent is at 35KB/s.. german peer on uTorrent 1.8.1 :S

Update 2 : Speed at 200KB+ now, screenshot included biggrin.gif I'm behind NAT without port forwarding mind you..!

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somebody had reported its slower than 1.81
duno your case la
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Well maybe they weren't testing uTP-only mode. I cant even connect to peers with non-uTP connections and when I do, the total speed goes up to like.. 3KB/s max. Not even xunlei works in my area (near KDU) ;(
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in uTP-only it get awesome speeds, but so few peers have this feature enable and its utorrent-only by now sad.gif
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Im gettin 115 with this.. utorrent rocks so much at alpha/beta stages but sucks in the final release. Dunno why.

Some torrent i get rocket high speed mostly they are turtle speed
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QUOTE(old_calculator @ Dec 6 2008, 12:32 PM)
Im gettin 115 with this.. utorrent rocks so much at alpha/beta stages but sucks in the final release. Dunno why.

Some torrent i get rocket high speed mostly they are turtle speed
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because - like in the 1.8 development - they research a new way to avoid traffic shapping but the ISPs always find a way to block it again and again. vmad.gif
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UDP should be harder to block unless they plan to packet inspect every UDP connection which includes voip and some latency sensitive games.. The speed should get better as they roll out more clients to support this. So far only utorrent 1.8.1> and the latest bittorrent client support it. ;(
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im using uTorrent 1.8.1 with 2mbit line and i can get over 150kb/s
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QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Dec 6 2008, 09:35 PM)
Hey,

Just wondering if anyone else here has tried the new uTorrent 1.9.1 alpha with UTP (UDP transfer) support? I've been getting killer (150KB/s per foreign bittorrent/utorrent 1.8.1+ peer) speeds occasionally using UTP ONLY mode (bt.transp_disposition 10). The speed is unstable but can hit around 200KB/s on my 4mbit line without VPN/tunnel yawn.gif!

http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=49813

Set bt.transp_disposition to 10 in advanced settings to make your client use only UDP connections.. you'll see [utp] tag next to every connection in your peer list.

Other people seem to be having good results with it too :

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21497962-...vade-throttling

As proof, I've attached an SS of a torrent I added a minute or so ago.. this is a Korean peer at 50KB/s. Yesterday I had a few american (US flag) peers at 100-150KB/s. I've also noticed that I'm getting these high speeds mainly from BitTorrent 6.1.1 clients + uTP.
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thanks to your stupidity in posting your results here about utorrent 1.9.1, tmnut spies will report back to their monkey boss and will soon throttle this new version of utorrent as well. maybe next time you will learn to keep your mouth shut.
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QUOTE(nwk @ Dec 7 2008, 12:15 AM)
thanks to your stupidity in posting your results here about utorrent 1.9.1, tmnut spies will report back to their monkey boss and will soon throttle this new version of utorrent as well. maybe next time you will learn to keep your mouth shut.
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Thanks nwk, I'll be sure to remember not to help out people in the future for my own benefit. In fact, that should be LYN's motto -- go **** yourself because I won't benefit from it. I should go on every thread in the help section of the forum and tell people to stfu, especially the xunlei and bitcomet mod unthrottle ones.

uTP is being developed as a standard protocol, even if I had posted about it or not -- TMnet would have upgraded their solution to block it anyway once the people they outsourced the network filtering to get wind of the new protocol, which they probably ALREADY HAVE seeing as uTorrent and BitTorrent are working together on it.

Do you honestly think I didn't consider keeping this for myself? I've been playing around with this for more than just a few days and people on dsl reports and utorrent.com have already been talking about it since version 1.8.1 was in the making.

I don't even need to unthrottle my home line, I already have access to multiple high bandwidth datacenter servers (as you can clearly see from my signature) and I was doing this to help the people who can't afford such luxuries out.. but what would you know about helping your fellow Malaysians? Absolutely nothing -- so maybe you should learn to keep your selfish, ignorant mouth shut before you come here and flame me for your bullshit reasons. You only like to know how to take things but not give anything back in return.

Besides, there are tons of other foreign P2P protocols which I know TMnet is aware of but have not blocked up to this day. This is just the next step in torrenting, much like header encryption and tracker connection obfuscation was.

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Oh, and if the TMnet monkeys are reading this post :

Block this new protocol if you wish but remember that it is your lack of infrastructure and foresight (really, never heard of the 80-20 rule of thumb?) that has us using VPNs and other torrenting services.


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Thanks for sharing, I will try it out soon.
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Chill out guys. This capping situation is exactly the same as the war between software/game developers and warez group. If there is a will, there is a way. This war has no end, enjoy while you can.
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QUOTE(-=Axis=- @ Dec 7 2008, 02:32 AM)
Chill out guys. This capping situation is exactly the same as the war between software/game developers and warez group. If there is a will, there is a way. This war has no end, enjoy while you can.
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the war will have an end in some cases... ahem... ps3... psp3000... there will be one day software pirates/torrent developers got tired of cracking/implementing new stuffs because they are not paid (enough) to do it. especially when economy is down and the world is heavily materialised nowadays.

so I actually kind of agree with nwk to not spread this too much. that said, I still am very thankful towards the sharing of this info with others rizvan.
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Lol, there was a discussion regarding the whole game software cracking and piracy scene in the gamers section earlier last week. I put up my thoughts there esp regarding ps3 and game DRM cracking by groups like razor1911 but I fell sick and was bed ridden for a week.

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so I actually kind of agree with nwk to not spread this too much. that said, I still am very thankful towards the sharing of this info with others rizvan.

I agree its just that this info has already been spread across the net and I'm just informing lowyat about it. Might as well use it before it gets blocked. The only I got pissed is because of the way he replied, I don't 'demand respect on the Internet' but if you're going to talk to me like a d*** my response will be equally as d***-ish.

My point here is this anti-throttling technology was developed for a reason. That reason being to help people like us TMnet subscribers which are promised 'unlimited' packages yet are stabbed in the eyes constantly by TMnet and their snake-like policies. It's not a 'hidden' feature, it's been there since alpha and just not a lot of people know about it.. but it's already on digg.com and the torrentfreak blog. So it's already getting out there, yet there are some people who want to know about it and not let others have that advantage too.

I mean, that's like finding out the cure for cancer is eating 3 apples and an orange a day then telling everyone else who knows about it not to share it. Why? 'We need to capitalize on this shit guys! Patent it or something! We have to like, get a profit out of this shit!'. It's f**king ridiculous in this case because it's just torrents and changing 1 setting (which has already been pointed out on the utorrent forum).

People always want to hide shit regarding anti-throttling but this is basic knowledge. TMnet filters don't filter UDP packets, so what?

Xunlei got blocked even with abt 3 people per page posting 'NOOO KEEP IT IN LOWYAT YOU BLOODY FOOL!', I won't be surprised if this gets blocked too.

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so far it is stable?
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QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Dec 7 2008, 01:00 AM)
Thanks nwk, I'll be sure to remember not to help out people in the future for my own benefit. In fact, that should be LYN's motto -- go **** yourself because I won't benefit from it. I should go on every thread in the help section of the forum and tell people to stfu, especially the xunlei and bitcomet mod unthrottle ones.

uTP is being developed as a standard protocol, even if I had posted about it or not -- TMnet would have upgraded their solution to block it anyway once the people they outsourced the network filtering to get wind of the new protocol, which they probably ALREADY HAVE seeing as uTorrent and BitTorrent are working together on it.

Do you honestly think I didn't consider keeping this for myself? I've been playing around with this for more than just a few days and people on dsl reports and utorrent.com have already been talking about it since version 1.8.1 was in the making.

I don't even need to unthrottle my home line, I already have access to multiple high bandwidth datacenter servers (as you can clearly see from my signature) and I was doing this to help the people who can't afford such luxuries out.. but what would you know about helping your fellow Malaysians? Absolutely nothing -- so maybe you should learn to keep your selfish, ignorant mouth shut before you come here and flame me for your bullshit reasons. You only like to know how to take things but not give anything back in return.

Besides, there are tons of other foreign P2P protocols which I know TMnet is aware of but have not blocked up to this day. This is just the next step in torrenting, much like header encryption and tracker connection obfuscation was.

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Oh, and if the TMnet monkeys are reading this post :

Block this new protocol if you wish but remember that it is your lack of infrastructure and foresight (really, never heard of the 80-20 rule of thumb?) that has us using VPNs and other torrenting services.

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rizvanrp thx for caring/sharing. I support you notworthy.gif

I fully agree that Malaysians need to rid themselves of this kiasu mentality rolleyes.gif So anyway kudos to riz.



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rizvanrp just ignore those morons
i appreciated ur contribution by sharing the knowledge & information here
good job mate..
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QUOTE(nwk @ Dec 7 2008, 12:15 AM)
thanks to your stupidity in posting your results here about utorrent 1.9.1, tmnut spies will report back to their monkey boss and will soon throttle this new version of utorrent as well. maybe next time you will learn to keep your mouth shut.
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Agreed.

Although in defense of rizvanxp(?), the guy was trying to help fellow forummers. However, it may have "advertised" this new feature to TMnet oh-so-conveniently such that this new feature of utorrent is now blocked too.

Now, those throttlers don't have to view traffic logs, look at other P2P forums or google in order to find new things to throttle, go here can kow tim already tongue.gif Thanks in part to generous posters like our friend rizvanxp(?). Go dude rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

FYI, now I'm d/l a dvd rip which takes 1 month to complete smile.gif .... yes, with utorrent's UTP feature enabled (bt.transp_disposition = 10)

Excellent work TMnet. Now if they only do the same with their service quality. Sigh ....


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