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post Nov 18 2008, 12:49 PM
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cant wait for the new proc to come out, chipset oso.
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AMD Dragon platform 40% better than Spider ?

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QUOTE(xk2 @ Nov 18 2008, 10:01 PM)
AMD Dragon platform 40% better than Spider ?

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damn the poison! i hope i dun have to change my mobo to get the best when oc'ing deneb... sweat.gif
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post Nov 18 2008, 10:30 PM
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QUOTE(xk2 @ Nov 18 2008, 10:01 PM)
AMD Dragon platform 40% better than Spider ?

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most of the credit actually goes 2 the GPU, dey still need a better CPU..................... sad.gif
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post Nov 18 2008, 10:46 PM
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Not much big improve...

only ~ L3 cache..
http://forums.amd.com/devblog/blogpost.cfm...03010&catid=271

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post Nov 19 2008, 12:25 AM
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Cache do really helps in gaming and other purposes/tasks.

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AMD just keep on talking while Intel keep churning in new chips. Wake up lar AMD. We need you to pressure Intel to reduce processor price. So dont die just yet.

I really hope AMD learn something from Barcelona failure, just like Intel did with P4.
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Nov 19 2008, 12:38 AM)
AMD just keep on talking while Intel keep churning in new chips. Wake up lar AMD. We need you to pressure Intel to reduce processor price. So dont die just yet.

I really hope AMD learn something from Barcelona failure, just like Intel did with P4.
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well, intel pretty much double the failure by stacking 2 p4 into pentium D......................=.=

wit AMD company condition & financial situation now............dey wont b able 2 tek the fight to intel turf.
can only play the bang for bucks price ratio game.................which is good for consumers.
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Indeedly,since the Deneb are compatible for AM2+ it should slightly improved AMD sales,the GPU also selling well.Anyway,lets just wait once its released to see whether AMD has make another changes.If it is on par with Yorkfield clock-clock its already enough.Core i7,Phenom FX should be ready with it/new architechture.AMD is slower than Intel..Indeedly..

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Nov 19 2008, 12:58 AM)
Indeedly,since the Deneb are compatible for AM2+ it should slightly improved AMD sales,the GPU also selling well.Anyway,lets just wait once its released to see whether AMD has make another changes.If it is on par with Yorkfield clock-clock its already enough.Core i7,Phenom FX should be ready with it/new architechture.AMD is slower than Intel..Indeedly..

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Thats why I said AMD must act now instead of keep blabering about future release. Wasting time sia. Even now, Corei7 also out liao. Who knows if they will keep delaying it like Barcelona.
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Do you know Shanghai has been released?
You cannot force to to release so fast,just wait la,or you want another TLB Erata happend again?
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well, there wont b any new architecture till 2010........................
sad news............. sad.gif

looks like i7 will rule for @ least 2 years+.
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The Inquirer relays details about AMD's 2009 roadmap that includes a 3GHz Phenom II X4, and quad core Athlons.

On January 8th, the fanboi collective will whip out their credit cards and pay tribute to the almighty Phenom II X4 940 – a 3GHz Deneb with 4x512KB L2 cache, 6MB of L3 cache and – targeting you-know-who with its unlocked cores. It’ll be an AM2+ part and will require a whole lot of cooling but AMD is promising 4GHz on air, upwards on liquids. The multiplier-locked Phenom II X4 920 will also launch, but clocking in at 2.8GHz.These will be the first - and only - AM2+ 900-series Phenom II parts, according to the data
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if true dat it can oc 4ghz on air,i'll get it & forgot bout nehalem... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(tech3910 @ Nov 19 2008, 12:55 AM)
well, intel pretty much double the failure by stacking 2 p4 into pentium D......................=.=

wit AMD company condition & financial situation now............dey wont b able 2 tek the fight to intel turf.
can only play the bang for bucks price ratio game.................which is good for consumers.
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No fight? BIG FIGHT coming... Oil Money coming BIG TIME!!! If the spin-off is successful... AMD will catch up in less than 2 years time... rclxms.gif

YIELD.... more YIELD.... thumbup.gif


Erm... by the way, when is AMD gonna release a dualcore (on die) GPU? thumbup.gif

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ok..their plan so gorgeous..but hate to admit about their upcoming delay notice..hope this time its an accurate news from them..

this new upcoming chip from them seems to be a new born contender for intel.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(yangxi @ Nov 18 2008, 10:46 PM)
Not much big improve...

only ~ L3 cache..
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To think that amd able to release 3Ghz (stock clock) quad-core, and rumored to be able to do 4Ghz on air, it is quite an improvement..
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its a shame dat the fusion plan has been push bck............ sad.gif
if it really work out well, it can get 2 birds (nvidia & intel) wit 1 stone.................. icon_idea.gif
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ya...i like the fusion idea...
the future is fusion..
still...they need to be on par with c2d and c2q 1st then go for fusion..
i7 can be for high end and pricey configuration while the new one can taget low and med users..
i thinks that better 1st to regain their economy status...
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The first leaks were that the Phenom II could hit 4 GHz on air cooling alone, though we obviously wonder how extreme that air cooling is.  Well today AMD had some actual demonstrations at their gathering, and the Phenom II was able to hit 5 GHz at 1.6v by using dry ice cooling.  Dry ice is CO2, and it goes directly from solid to gas (sublimation) at a temperature of -109.3 F (-78.5C for the rest of the world) at 1 atmosphere.  So with some pretty extreme cooling (non-LN) the Phenom II does show that it has some legs in the clockspeed department.
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Update:  The Phenom II reached 6 GHz+ at 1.9v on liquid nitrogen (boiling point -321F/-196C at 1 atm).  Testing looks to have been done on a Gigabyte 790GX motherboard that is currently available.
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