lightweight bcos it uses cheap metal. Do you know proton ppl call them the famous 'milo tin cars'? This is because proton cars cincai let ppl punch with moderate force also got dent already. Whereas cayenne uses better materials. But anyways hail volvo 240. Hardest car ever

it's Lotus MSX lolx..

I will give a try if cheap compare to other imported car..

Safety and performance must be Lotus standard not Proton Standard...

Good Job Proton / Lotus

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some ppl say it's a copycat car..

Well, I dont think Malaysian, can able to design or make these car without any support from Ang Mo. where do have more experience and talent towards Car industry.

We are only a 3rd world country. But, I am agree with u, It's a copycat / Lotus car. However, I dont mind if this is cheap and good Quality.

(Give more support to M'sia product then only ur country will grow rapidly, I got a Korean friend, They Love their country, everything they buy are made from korea, and they send back their children for learn the korean culture every sch holiday, as for m'sian, ppl will say "go far far, dont come back m'sia.. can not cari makan kat sini" )


This post has been edited by Suk: Nov 11 2008, 03:25 PM

a very good point, Malaysia will develop faster if we have more citizen like u

not also Korea, but like Japan too..

they are really supportive on whateva products came from their country

proton car for rich guy.

yea, right
its cheap because imported cars got tons of tax
and protons are way pricier that they should be
then you can see that this car is cheaper than imported one

Proton own Lotus, so they have the right to do anything that they like with the Lotus APX even turning it in to a Proton...

Hmmm... quite nice looking car. Looking forward to it. Good work proton\lotus.

bro.. u r right... im your side.....
the guys talk nonsence here all don't know anything about it... they only know "proton is copycat" and perodua is nice inteligent car.... they all don't know anything about other company, they always talk bad thing about same thing other poeple sayed... if one guy say proton is useless.. then this guy all oso say useless... if we ask them what is useless... then, they will rolleyes and give stupid answer... they don't know, perodua is a big and father of copycat....


i see some people here... talk about their(proton) design...!!! u all think, easyly can design one car....?? bullshit...!!
it will take few years for 1 perfect concept.... for malaysia... we don't have any good automotive designer here... so, we need get help for others manufactures... the important thing is, proton owner need $$$ not your comment, so, he need get $$$ from low budget cars, where the malaysian can afford to buy it....

Proton can manufact better and a nice car like same quality with honda,
but, can malaysian afford it..?? offcourse not.... malaysian need low budget car.... not safety and good design car.... they always ask how much it is... they not ask, got ABS, AIRBAG or not.... malaysian always need Kancil, Kelisa, Myvi, Saga with low price...

Kancil= piece of junk
Kelisa= Piece of crap
Myvi= Piece of shit
Saga=piece of ****


u all talk about Design..?? talk about Safety....??? then why still people got buy all craps from perodua, Naza and Proton...???
go and buy, mercedez, BMW, Volvo lo.... don't buy malaysian low price and low safety car.....


SOMANNY GUYS TALK BIG HERE, BUT PARK MALAYSIA(PROTON) CAR AT HOME.... BULLSHIT..!!!! COME ON GUYS...!!!

this car faster than porsche cayenne. impressive!

LOL! they rebadge the Lotus APX and all the uneducated gets excited (like those in the pic)...

they do contribute the side mirror? lolsssss



dude Honda and Acura is the same, it's just that in the US they create the Acura brand as the luxury brand of Honda, just like Lexus to Toyota.

what kind of materials does cayenne uses since u know its better than the APX/MSX?

yeah, APX uses cheap metal.. all significant components and structural items are made from aluminum... just like u said, tin milo.

do u know what APX stands for? in case u didnt know its Aluminum Performance Crossover, which contributes to its light weight.
and lightweight structures are Lotus Engineering's specialties and this is the industry recognized area where the greatest improvements in performance and fuel economy can be gained...

bro... they all don't know anything... they only wan to give comment for fun... actually, otak mereke tu la "tin milo kosong" ... lol.. bising banyak but nothing inside... hahaha....

I know, but what i am trying to say, is.....there are many companies that used more than one brand for one particular model...

Some people say Proton copy Lotus APX lah, bla bla....

It is just the difference in brand, that's all...

But for some people, who i don't know why they think when Proton put "Proton MSX" on Lotus APX, they all go and say "copy lah", this and that...

I wouldn't say Perodua is bad, infact, it is the existence of Perodua, in a way helps Proton, in my opinion, look at the MD, came from where? He came from Perodua...

Perodua do help people to get more affordable Japanese cars...that is for sure and it is good!

Then, Proton do deserve to be bashed for past mistakes, but at the same time, bashing something without any proper information, is just a bad sign to a person...

This post has been edited by Kampung2005: Mar 24 2009, 04:47 PM

i choose this mpv rather than the coming up mpv

but the way they rebadge is not like Toyota Harrier become Lexus RX because they are made by Toyota. While this is Lotus APX then they just put proton badge in it. I don't know how to explain it. Lotus and Proton are not the same company in the beginning unlike Lexus and Toyota

bro...
same company at begining or not is not issue... the issue is"Lotus is Now Under Proton" if i am proton MD... i oso will do it same thing coz, $$$... why we need design back when we already buyed nice design.... "just put your name only la..." why u wan to waste $$$ for upgrade.... perlahan2 upgrade and put SE edition la.... aiya... why still people donwan to think.... ishh..!!!

Before the arrival of Lexus in Japan...

Toyota Harrier is the Lexus RX, i think you also know that eh...

The difference between Lexus RX and Toyota Harrier were mainly, engines...

Toyota Harrier, as it is destined to Japanese market, has smaller engine displacement compared to Lexus RX which was and is equipped with larger engine because its focus are mainly for North American market, which demands higher engine displacement...

The 2.4 litre engine offered in the first and second generation Harrier, was never officially offered for export market...

Both Lexus RX and Toyota Harrier, since are the same vehicle, except the engine options, were manufactured in Miyawaka, Fukuoka prefecture, Japan...

its not an MPV, its a crossover

btw, stop arguing about proton copying anything or everything from lotus, its not copying at all.. it is called technology transfer.
Lotus is owned by Proton. end of story.

yea since they own lotus they can do anything they want, maybe next is take Lotus Elise and rebadge as Proton Elise