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post Jul 8 2008, 06:33 PM
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Google: Bell Canada Is Breaking The Law
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Google-...g-The-Law-95896

Google has jumped into the fight between independent ISPs and Bell Canada, which earlier this year angered wholesale competitors by throttling P2P traffic before it reaches their networks. According to Google, Bell Canada is breaking the law by engaging in such throttling, which Bell says was necessary because of congestion (something they've been unable to prove). In a submission made to Canadian regulators the CRTC, Google had this to say:

"Bell claims its throttling of peer-to-peer applications is a reasonable form of network management. Google respectfully disagrees. Network management does not include Canadian carriers’ blocking or degrading lawful applications that consumers wish to use. From consumer, competition and innovation perspectives, throttling applications that consumers choose is inconsistent with a content and application-neutral internet, and a violation of Canadian telecommunications law, which forbids unfair discrimination and undue or unreasonable preferences and requires that regulation be technologically and competitively neutral."

Just last month Google hired Patrick Pichette, former president of operations at Bell Canada, as its new chief financial officer.
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sue tmnut?..sure 1 vote fr me too~!
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Sue TMnut back to the very pits of hell they spawned from!

Sue signed!

It seems all bloody providers even ones in foreign lands are coming under huge fire Comcast US, Cogeco and Rogers Canada, TMnut Malaysia, hell i'll do better go to this link and see the amount of terrorists ph34r.gif that are throttling us just so they don't have to upgrade and can make more moneyflies.gif.

Bad ISP's vmad.gif http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/Bad_ISPs

I'll have to edit the wiki for Malaysia probably put everything to a BIG YES tongue.gif

Well thank god companies like Google and people are standing up for their right against these big conglomerates. I'm getting sick of these ISP's using their favorite quote/line "Network management that is reasonable and done for the benefit of subscribers is critical to every broadband service provider's ability to offer its customers the quality and reliability subscribers demand and expect" vmad.gif.

Are you freaking kidding me all you had to do is limit yourselves from being greedy piggies and not subscribing over the capacity you have. You want more people using your service but don't want to spend the amount it takes to cope with the strain that will be put when the limit is met so you find alternatives and blame protocols like P2P to develop abilities to throttle users in the name of customer quality and reliability subscribers demand and expect. Now this is the kicker what happens to people who don't even P2P they get throttled 2 because there always be loopholes in getting the content you want so the easiest way is to just implement a service wide throttle system easier to manage less headaches.

Now take for example Comcast spending so much in developing Sandvine but all this time, effort and cash could be used in finding solutions or just plain upgrading your lines or even just stop people over subscribing to your networks. Sadly companies will always be greedy and we just have to put these terrorists of the new world in their place rclxm9.gif.

I still don't get this quote/line "every broadband service provider's ability to offer its customers the quality and reliability subscribers demand and expect". They keep preaching this but all i see is unsatisfied customers that feel they have been conned. I think customers that are actually happy with quality and realibility of service are those old folks who just open e-mail, check a few sites, chat and that's it hell i think even old folks of the current crop do more than that doh.gif.

I think best way to combat this is emerging of new companies who combat throttling which is slowly happening. Google came out of nowhere when we cried for a better search engine and also an e-mail provider that didn't make us pay to get more space remember Hotmail doh.gif. Now look at Hotmail they 2 are offering more space but F em I'll never use that shit same goes when a new ISP shows up I'll switch and TMnut can keep saying to itself we r doing the right thing while they go bankrupt rclxm9.gif. Keep up with time or GTFO and move over for companies who do! tongue.gif.

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post Jul 8 2008, 09:56 PM
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Sue signed. Kill the cheaters! Too bad that law is on Canada. hehehehe

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if you can sue tmnut,
tomorrow toto sure kena 1st price............!!!xD

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yea ok sue, morally will support u all .......go guys go lolz.
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me sue tmnut too...
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