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QUOTE(Ginryu @ Aug 25 2008, 10:01 PM)
how much does it cost to fix my RROD 360?
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RM500 + Warranty or Money Back if RROD again
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QUOTE(Ginryu @ Aug 25 2008, 10:01 PM)
how much does it cost to fix my RROD 360?
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YES REPAIR IS RM500 , 3 MONTHS MONEY BACK GUARANTEE smile.gif
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falcon chipset xbox360 normaly using wat dvd drive ? last time i got pm u , u tell me samsung drive price , how about benq drive price ? and how long u need to take to fix it ? coz im not staying in kl also .
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QUOTE(doi0728 @ Aug 28 2008, 06:29 AM)
falcon chipset xbox360 normaly using wat dvd drive ? last time i got pm u , u tell me samsung drive price , how about benq drive price ? and how long u need to take to fix it ? coz im not staying in kl also .
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most 2008 batch using Ben Q...the drive so smooth
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I took my machine in for repairs today. Walked in at 4:30PM, walked out with the box 2 hours later.

So far so good. Machine runs well enough. Hopefully no more 3RoD
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QUOTE(bedhouin @ Aug 29 2008, 10:12 PM)
I took my machine in for repairs today. Walked in at 4:30PM, walked out with the box 2 hours later.

So far so good. Machine runs well enough. Hopefully no more 3RoD
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notworthy.gif I ALSO HOPE YOUR X360 NO MORE 3ROD .DONT WORRY IF 3ROR YOU CAN TAKE BACK RM500 thumbup.gif
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How 2 c wat error code on RROD 360?

Added on September 4, 2008, 10:57 pmanybody can answer me? Tech2 can answer my Q?

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tech 2 many falcon set 3rod not?
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Sep 6 2008, 01:31 AM)
tech 2 many falcon set 3rod not?
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i think 25% 3RROD and 25% error E74 for falcon mother board
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If I send my xbox there, can I witness the reballing process and I want to see the BGA template that you use to reball. This is to make sure you dont just use a reflow machine with certain heat profiling and charge me rm500.

Also, why the hell are you using a non-leaded solder balls? Leaded solder balls better when it comes robustness. Source for a leaded balls laa... better mahh..from 3 months warranty you can change to 1 year. Also, leaded balls are easier to remove using that vacuum BGA reflowing machine. Lead free harder and have to use different heat profile with higher settings and there a chance to damage the pads. Just a suggestion , if you can source for leaded balls then go for it!!!

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QUOTE(kane_WWE_07 @ Aug 31 2008, 11:37 AM)
How 2 c wat error code on RROD 360?

Added on September 4, 2008, 10:57 pmanybody can answer me? Tech2 can answer my Q?
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please refer to this thread LIVE after Death...Version 2 (3ROD)

Added on September 7, 2008, 9:02 am
QUOTE(hassanJ @ Sep 7 2008, 08:29 AM)
If I send my xbox there, can I witness the reballing process and I want to see the BGA template that you use to reball. This is to make sure you dont just use a reflow machine with certain heat profiling and charge me rm500.

Also, why the hell are you using a non-leaded solder balls? Leaded solder balls better when it comes robustness. Source for a leaded balls laa... better mahh..from 3 months warranty you can change to 1 year. Also, leaded balls are easier to remove using that vacuum BGA reflowing machine. Lead free harder and have to use different heat profile with higher settings and there a chance to damage the pads. Just a suggestion , if you can source for leaded balls then go for it!!!
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i dont think he let u to see that , cause thats his secret for his business , and if u dont put trust on tech2 then u can send it to others to repair ur console..but if tech2 let u see the process that would be nice

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Sep 7 2008, 08:58 AM)
please refer to this thread LIVE after Death...Version 2 (3ROD)

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i dont think he let u to see that , cause thats his secret for his business , and if u dont put trust on tech2 then u can send it to others to repair ur console..but if tech2 let u see the process that would be nice
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actually reballing a bga chip is not a trade secret kindaa thing, I've seen ppl reball various bga chips.
The things that you need are the bga reflow station, proper size solder balls , bga template and a skillful tech.

It's like a mechanic telling you that you need to change your front axle/cv joints. Almost everyone knows the process, its not a trade secret.
Same goes for a BGA reballing service.

Any hardcore HP repair outfit or any other electronic specialize repair shop should be familir with the process.
All I want to make sure that he does a reballing and not a reflow. If it is a reflow , than I can easily do it at the office.

Reballing without proper template is suicide.
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QUOTE(hassanJ @ Sep 7 2008, 09:22 AM)
actually reballing a bga chip is not a trade secret kindaa thing, I've seen ppl reball various bga chips.
The things that you need are the bga reflow station, proper size solder balls , bga template and a skillful tech.

It's like a mechanic telling you that you need to change your front axle/cv joints. Almost everyone knows the process, its not a trade secret.
Same goes for a BGA reballing service. 

Any hardcore HP repair outfit or any other electronic specialize repair shop should be familir with the process.
All I want to make sure that he does a reballing and not a reflow. If it is a reflow , than I can easily do it at the office.

Reballing without proper template is suicide.
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ic...agree with u..now i understand rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(hassanJ @ Sep 7 2008, 08:29 AM)
If I send my xbox there, can I witness the reballing process and I want to see the BGA template that you use to reball. This is to make sure you dont just use a reflow machine with certain heat profiling and charge me rm500.

Also, why the hell are you using a non-leaded solder balls? Leaded solder balls better when it comes robustness. Source for a leaded balls laa... better mahh..from 3 months warranty you can change to 1 year. Also, leaded balls are easier to remove using that vacuum BGA reflowing machine. Lead free harder and have to use different heat profile with higher settings and there a chance to damage the pads. Just a suggestion , if you can source for leaded balls then go for it!!!
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pls don,t want send to me repair your console because i dont want do 1 year guarantee .

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QUOTE(hassanJ @ Sep 7 2008, 09:22 AM)
actually reballing a bga chip is not a trade secret kindaa thing, I've seen ppl reball various bga chips.
The things that you need are the bga reflow station, proper size solder balls , bga template and a skillful tech.

It's like a mechanic telling you that you need to change your front axle/cv joints. Almost everyone knows the process, its not a trade secret.
Same goes for a BGA reballing service. 

Any hardcore HP repair outfit or any other electronic specialize repair shop should be familir with the process.
All I want to make sure that he does a reballing and not a reflow. If it is a reflow , than I can easily do it at the office.

Reballing without proper template is suicide.
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this is my trade secret i cannot give u see repair process. why u don,t want repair your x360 yourself u is technician mah. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(hassanJ @ Sep 7 2008, 09:22 AM)
actually reballing a bga chip is not a trade secret kindaa thing, I've seen ppl reball various bga chips.
The things that you need are the bga reflow station, proper size solder balls , bga template and a skillful tech.

It's like a mechanic telling you that you need to change your front axle/cv joints. Almost everyone knows the process, its not a trade secret.
Same goes for a BGA reballing service. 

Any hardcore HP repair outfit or any other electronic specialize repair shop should be familir with the process.
All I want to make sure that he does a reballing and not a reflow. If it is a reflow , than I can easily do it at the office.

Reballing without proper template is suicide.
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yes agree with u..
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QUOTE(tech2 @ Sep 7 2008, 10:48 AM)
pls don,t want send to me repair your console because i dont want do 1 year guarantee .

Added on September 7, 2008, 10:58 am
this is my trade secret i cannot  give u see repair process. why u don,t want repair your x360 yourself u is technician mah. tongue.gif
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Strongly agreed with hassanj. Becos like he said, if u use the wrong method, then not much difference and 3rod will come back anytime.
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tech2, so okay reballing bga chips is your trade secret and I cannot witness you do it. Can you at least prove that you do reball and not reflow. ALso, do you return the old GPU chip after replacing it with new one ? Can you also prove to me the job that you are doing is reballing and not reflowing, the later of which price tag is not any where near the quoted rm500.

About the 1 year warranty, so okay I went overboard. But do you get my drift as to why I suggested to you to use leaded balls? it's waayy better than the newer ROHs compliant lead free solder balls when it comes to operating robustness. Even if you still provide 3 months warranty, IMO you'll see lesser console return.

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QUOTE(hassanJ @ Sep 7 2008, 08:16 PM)
tech2, so okay reballing bga chips is your trade secret and I cannot witness you do it. Can you at least prove that you do reball and not reflow. ALso, do you return the old GPU chip after replacing it with new one ? Can you also prove to me the job that you are doing is reballing and not reflowing, the later of which price tag is not any where near the quoted rm500.

About the 1 year warranty, so okay I went overboard. But do you get my drift as to why I suggested to you to use leaded balls? it's waayy better than the newer ROHs compliant lead free solder balls when it comes to operating robustness. Even if you still provide 3 months warranty, IMO you'll  see lesser console return.
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i sure is replace a new gpu then old gpu give back customer lah. if you want to repair i welcome if you dont want repair pls dont talk more useless cool.gif

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QUOTE(hassanJ @ Sep 7 2008, 08:16 PM)
tech2, so okay reballing bga chips is your trade secret and I cannot witness you do it. Can you at least prove that you do reball and not reflow. ALso, do you return the old GPU chip after replacing it with new one ? Can you also prove to me the job that you are doing is reballing and not reflowing, the later of which price tag is not any where near the quoted rm500.

About the 1 year warranty, so okay I went overboard. But do you get my drift as to why I suggested to you to use leaded balls? it's waayy better than the newer ROHs compliant lead free solder balls when it comes to operating robustness. Even if you still provide 3 months warranty, IMO you'll  see lesser console return.
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Hassan, maybe for the sake of knowledge, u could explain indetails the difference of between reflow and reball, as I believe most of us have no clue about it.Thanks
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QUOTE(silencer @ Sep 8 2008, 12:03 AM)
Hassan, maybe for the sake of knowledge, u could explain indetails the difference of between reflow and reball, as I believe most of us have no clue about it.Thanks
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Added on September 8, 2008, 12:34 am
now i cannot fix with 2hours already sorry because i have many repair job now i need 2 days to fix it notworthy.gif
thanks lowyat.net forumer support me thumbup.gif

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