Do you intend to go for IPTA or IPTS?
If you intend to go for IPTA then STPM/matriculation is the only way. Other than that, I would suggest for you to take A-levels.

Thereafter, you will have to decide on the programme you intend to take. Do you want to take an internal programme or an external programme?
If you intend to take an internal programme then you will have to decide which University do you want to go to. This will depend thereof on the partner Universities with Taylor, HELP, KDU, etc.

If you intend to go for the external programme then you can either choose to do the Bachelor of Jurisprudence by UM or the LLB by University of London.

At undergraduate level, the level of English required of you isn't as demanding as the Bar Vocational Course whereby you will have to satisfy at least a 7.5 in all 4 categories of the IELTS (Northumbria appears to be the only University requiring an 8.0 or above in the speaking category). This is mainly due to the fact that undergraduates do not engage in intensive vocational activities and merely concentrate on reading, understanding and applying the law. At undergraduate level, if there is no additional requirement from the University then even a B4 for 1119 would be sufficient(I got a B4 for my 1119).

You will find the things you will have to study at the compulsory subjects posted above. The syllabus and electives differs from institution to institution.

Why do you want to read law? I am asking this so as to understand your reasons.

Considering that you are in form 5 this year, my only advice to you at this stage is to keep your options open.



This post has been edited by schizophrenic: Jun 27 2008, 12:09 PM

actually i'm intend to taking law bcoz juz thinking for my future career..
i oso dono wat do i like actually~
but not really got interested in business as many ppl do..
i'm choosing among psychology n law.
bcoz among all the courses,these two is the only that i got interested!!!
but...
for psyscho, i'm afraid bout the career after studying..
for law... i'm afraid that i cannot handle it ==
bcoz last time there was 1 of my fren studying LAW..
she was really good in ENglish n watever subjects lar~
her SPM got straight 1A lehh..
n so...
i'm afraid..
really scaree~~
my result so bad,wat if i cant study...==

PS: wat is matriculation ?!

You'll never know unless you try. You might be surprised at the results.


Matriculation? It is a form of pre-u that you enter after SPM.

so..
ur suggestion might b..
juz go ahead ?!

If the only reason creating a doubt in you is your insecurity then only you can decide. You are currently taking SPM. You still have a year or two to decide. Go for your form 6 or A levels. It will be fine even if you decide thereafter. In the mean time, you can apply to become an intern in a law firm(during your holidays). See how it goes. Meet fellow LLB students and seek their opinion current at that time.

Honestly, I wouldn't worry about it yet. Concentrate on your SPM.

from the above, i reckon u think u can handle psychology but not law? why is that? level of English?

bcoz i tot psychology will b more interesting ?!
last time during the edu fair..
i'd ask bout LAW..
then the person told me..
if u study law.. then is juz alwaz read read read n read~
n almost everyone around me keep telling me LAW r so hard,i need to b tough n bla bla bla..
they ask me to think properly whether i really can handle it anot..
n when i ask them bout psycho..
most of them only ask tat wat can i b after studying that..
never got ppl asked me whether i can do it anot..
so i think i'd neglected tis problem..
thanks for reminding ya ^^

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Added on June 30, 2008, 3:59 pm

ya..
i really hav to concentrate on my SPM right now!!!
i will look for u when i've questions again lo~ ^^
thank you

This post has been edited by starzzz: Jun 30 2008, 03:59 PM

[quote=schizophrenic,Jun 30 2008, 12:28 AM]
If the only reason creating a doubt in you is your insecurity then only you can decide. You are currently taking SPM. You still have a year or two to decide. Go for your form 6 or A levels. It will be fine even if you decide thereafter. In the mean time, you can apply to become an intern in a law firm(during your holidays). See how it goes. Meet fellow LLB students and seek their opinion current at that time.

HI schizophrenic,
i'm currently studying in SEGI college.
Taking A-Levels,initially i took up 3 subjects,ie Law,Business Studies and Economics.
I'm the type of student that studies last-minute and consequently i realised i'd not enough time to prepare for my finals.
In addition,i got a rather BAD result for my earlier mock exam for my Business subject.
I made up my mind and thereafter dropped Business in order to allocate more time on my Law n Economics.
I've done my finals just weeks ago,19th June(last paper)..
My A Levels not under Cambridge,but EDEXCEL board of examination.
Besides my result which ll be release this coming august,in the middle of the month,my greatest worries would be if my cert ll be recognised or not.
This is due to sayings i ve heard that most of the Uni-s requires 3 passes in A levels/stpm or Matriculation.
However i was convinced by my college counsellor that so long as i follow the programme provided,be it Diploma In LAw year2 or 4+0 UOL Bachelor of Law,my 2 passes(as i take only 2 in the end) in A Levels will be sufficient to make me eligible.

SOMEHOW,I'm still worried.As thing changes,and i might want to switch to another place for further studies instead of staying and follow Segi's programme.

How would you advise me?
*troubled*
=(

I cannot comment on the recognition of the different boards for A levels but I can comment on the recognition of A levels generally.

If you intend to do the transfer programme (aka diploma in law for 2 years) in HELP or even the twinning programme with PTPL, you would require 2 principal passes for A levels (in one sitting for purposes of your professional exam in Malaysia). On the other hand, if you want to do the transfer programme with Taylors (in collaboration with Reading), you will need 3 Cs for your A levels. The University of London External Programme requires 2 principal passes and it can be completed in a minimum of 3 years for your case(assuming you are not yet a graduate and intend to practice). It is not a 4+0 or a 3+0(which is a twinning programme) but it is an 'External' programme.

I would normally recommend that you take 3 subjects because you may decide not to pursue a degree in law and the programme you intend to pursue might require 3 subjects(Some if not most courses would require 3 subjects at A levels). However, considering that you have done your A levels and is currently awaiting your result, my recommendation is to check with the specific college or University that you intend to enrol with regard to the recognition of the abovementioned board of examinations.

This post has been edited by schizophrenic: Jul 1 2008, 11:12 PM

I was about to say that.
By the way, it is too early to start thinking about all this when you have your trials and SPM ahead you.
Concentrate on those things 1st then you got 3 months to think of it after u finish ur spm.

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Added on July 6, 2008, 12:07 am
to proceed to LLB, u only need 2 passes...dun worry.

This post has been edited by solstice818: Jul 6 2008, 12:07 AM

Guys,

I have 9A1 in my SPM,and currently im still seeking,but my father ask me to go to London or San Francisco instead of local U.

So at London or San Francisco,what the best place to study law,LLB(Hons) to be exact.And the expected tution fee too

And after graduate,I might opt for MBA of Law,but how long is the course?

btw,I heard about theHastings Law College at University Of California,SF,the place is good to study law,and what are they offered and the requirement?

coz if go there might cut off my living expenses,as my aunt live just 2km from there.

thx

This post has been edited by budak_macho: Jul 6 2008, 06:39 PM

First of all, where do you intend to practise?
Also, what do you mean by MBA of Law? Do you mean an LLM or an MBA?

wadya mean by practice?sry of my noobness
yeah MBA/LLM

tat means where are you going to be a lawyer? England, malaysia or etc etc

MBA and LLM are two different qualifications. As for the other question, I meant what solstice clarified. An LLM is normally a 1 year programme but some Universities offer it as a 2 year programme. Therefore, it depends on where do you want to pursue your LLM. You may choose your specialisation for your LLM. As you are currently an SPM holder, I would suggest that you concentrate on your next course of action.

Therefore, this brings me to the same question on where do you intend to practise. My answer to your question will differ accordingly.

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Added on July 6, 2008, 11:46 pmI noticed that you seem rather interested in the qualification of a Juris Doctor in other threads. Do note that generally, this is a graduate qualification and you are currently an SPM holder, not a graduate. Therefore, do check with the school that you are interested in.

This post has been edited by schizophrenic: Jul 6 2008, 11:46 PM

Erm,J.D and LLB is different eh?Coz I thought at USA they use J.D instead of LLB

Btw,can a SPM holder take LLB or J.D course ,or must do A-level/STPM/Matrix first?

thx!

LLB and JD are two different courses. Like I said, a JD is generally a graduate programme. Thus, you need to have obtained your baccalaureus degree before going for a JD. A JD may enable you to use the title Dr. in certain jurisdictions. The requirements may differ from institution to institution and it is best that you personally contact your preferred institution.

You can enroll for a Diploma in Law programme with an SPM qualification. You may subsequently transfer your qualification to form part of your LLB upon completion. However, you may not be able to practise in Malaysia as your qualification will not enable you to sit for the CLP exam.

You may apply for your LLB using the mature student route but in order for your to qualify to sit for the CLP exam, you need at least 5 years of relevant and proven working experience. I highly doubt that you would like to enter using this route as you have just finished your SPM.

Therefore, it seems that the best option for you currently is to do a Pre-U, whether STPM, A-levels or Matriculation.

It would have been easier if you answered my repeated question above regarding the jurisdiction in which you would like to practise.

Oh ok.

So how long will matriculation or A-level course take time ?

I am not too sure about matriculation but I believe that it should be 2 years. Correct me if I am wrong.

A levels on the other hand ranges from 10 months to 18 months.

You'll be able to find more help regarding Pre-U education in other previous threads.

Since you're planning to go overseas, don't do Matriculation. It's not as widely recognised as STPM or A'Levels, so you'll be narrowing down your choices of universities.