alright thank q. This is a real case. but the fact was this mr xxx obtained a MBA after getting Bachelor of Accounting. Then after few yrs working in accounting field, he study law... til now clp holder... i wonder how it can make sense. I think if mr xxx capable then he may have 2 qualifications? In my view, maybe no1 will be clearer than him about company, contract, tax law in a big firm that deal with both accounting & law

Bar professional training course accepts students from overseas law degree?UOL student needs to come to London for graduation ceremony,i am asking for someone.

how long will the bar vocational course last?

BPTC would replace BVC next year,would be difficult to enter so i now also aim to become Barrister in northern ireland or become solicitor in northern ireland or scotland since i want to practice in sarawak

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Added on October 31, 2009, 11:10 pmany lawyer in malaysia takes Bar Transfer Test in uk?may i know the details about bar transfer test for overseas lawyer

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standards for entering the bvc already so high...what more the bptc? So sad for transfer students, especially those who aspire to be barristers

hmm.
out of curiosity,is anyone aspiring for the solicitor route in the UK?

i also think of that route but training contract is difficult to get as a foreigner.

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Added on November 10, 2009, 11:05 ama level's ELS and tort law is same as in LLB year1?do we study the same or the basic one in a level?

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schizophrenic , i 've read all the threads that u had post and found out that u are an intelligent person. im facing problems in my option and my future, i truely wish that u can give me some advice.

I finished my LLB from UOL at ATC, and i got only a 3rd class honor, i know now its impossible for me to get into clp. btw, im from sarawak.

1. i heard if wan to be a lawyer in sarawak , we dont actually need a CLP, as long as we get admitted to practice in any commonwealth country it is enough. is it?

2. if the above question is yes, i know that if i switch to australia i would need to take some few subjects which is decided by the bar council there and the problem is do our legal system accept student i mean graduate from uol then switch to australia then come back to sarawak to practice? coz it seems like a bit cacat achievements like that.

3. I would also want to know about the qualification to be a judge in sarawak? Do i need Clp to be a judge? or is there any post like a judge which does not need a clp so that i can enter into it and get few years experience then i can have higher possibility of getting back to CLP again?If yes, who and how can i apply for it?

4. Please let me know about the qualification to become commissioner of oath, and is it a good paid job?

5. Do u have any knowledge about the police structure? i heard some of my uncle said that i can enter into police and straight become an inspector and with my law degree i have more chances to get a higher post in the future. I also heard that they need a lecturer in police department to teach police laws? and if i wan to take that post, is it means that i need to become a police 1st?

6. if i become a police, can i apply to enter into some sort of legal department? or is there any possibility the government will allow to me take CLP that time?

7. If all the above choices that i consider above is not reasonable, for a student only with 3rd class honor in LLB UOL, what is your suggestion to do in my career. i would like to have some job which enable me to upgrade my post in the future and not paralegal or clerk which will be doing the same work for the whole life.

I wish my question will get your attention and its open to everyone who can give me valuable opinion, thank you

4. Qualifications for admission of advocate in Sarawak and Sabah


(a) he is a member of the Bar of England, Scotland, Northern Ireland or the Republic of Ireland;

(b) he is a solicitor or attorney of a Superior Court in a British Possession to which the Colonial Solicitors Act 1900, has been applied by Order in Council and who by virtue of the said Act and of any Order in Council thereunder may be admitted as a Solicitor of the Supreme Court in England, Scotland, Northern Ireland or the Republic of Ireland without examination and without service of articles of clerkship;



© he is a solicitor of the Supreme Court in England, Northern Ireland or the Republic of Ireland or he is a Writer to the Signet, Solicitor to the Supreme Court or a Solicitor in Scotland;




(d) he has been admitted to practise as a legal practitioner (by whatever name called) by a Supreme Court or High Court exercising jurisdiction in any place within any territory within the Commonwealth

yes.your choice may not only australia and nz but also northern ireland,scotland and ireland.If you wish to go to australia you need to take 'Priestly 11'.
Priestley 11 subjects

* Criminal law
* Torts
* Contracts
* Property - (including the Torrens System for land)
* Equity (including trusts)
* Administrative law
* Constitutional law (State and Commonwealth)
* Civil procedure
* Evidence
* Corporations or company law
* Legal ethics and professional conduct
Places offering Priestley 11

Currently, the Priestley 11 are offered by the following law schools -

In the Australian Capital Territory (Canberra):

* Australian National University College of Law
* University of Canberra Faculty of Law

In Tasmania:

* University of Tasmania

In New South Wales:

* University of Technology, Sydney

In Victoria:

* Monash University
* Deakin University
* La Trobe University
* Victoria University, Australia
* The University of Melbourne
* RMIT University

In Queensland:

* James Cook University

In South Australia:

* Flinders University of South Australia
Then,you may proceed to 6 months professional legal training course at college of law australia or other universities which offer the same course.After you complete the course,you may admit to the Supreme court of any state as Barrister and solicitor.Lastly,you can come back for pupilage straight away.

thanks for your reply edennature , i appreciate it so much, but if i want to go to Queensland University of Technology, do they have priestley 11 subjects? cause i did consult with the Uni and they told me to send over my cert and they will help me to get it assessed by the bar council over there to decide what subjects i still need to take. But the problem is, it costs about 500ausd...-.- do you know what subjects will they offer me? i know its hard for you to tell me exactly but just assumption is enough for me.

hai everyone..i m new here. i m planning to go for uol LLB at atc next year.. izzit recommended? btw,for uol LLB, which college's better? atc? brickfield? kdu? thx for help

@ edennature

How does one become a member of the respective Bars of Scotland, N.I and Ireland?

From my 5 minutes of googling, for Scotland, i came across:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solicitor#Scotland

http://targetjobs.co.uk/career-sectors/law...ate-in-scotland

http://www.advocates.org.uk/downloads/beco...ochure_2009.pdf

All of the above links highlight that for one to become an advocate or solicitor, he/she needs a llb in Scots law. If so, then that option, i can safely presume, for most of us is out of the question. Please clarify since you have been researching this route for yourself as well. Have i missed something?

@ fuchunkuzhi

For OZ, what subjects u will need to take to satisfy the Priestly 11 requirements, depends on what subjects you took during your LLB. For a student who has taken the following subjects for UOL LLB: Criminal, Contract, CLRI, Public, Land, Tort, Trust, Commercial, IP, Juris, Succession, Company, based on an assessment in Griffith Uni, Queensland, he/she will have to pursue the following courses:

Constitutional Law;
Equity;
Introduction to Public Law;
Law of Associations;
Property Law 1;
Property Law 2;
Civil Procedure;
Evidence;
Criminal Procedure;
Administrative Law; and
Legal Professional Practice

Use this as a guide. And according to edennature's post about the Unis that offer the Priestly 11, I doubt it's a conclusive list. Just check with QUT whether they offer the Preistly 11.

To admit to the Bar of Northern Ireland,a person needs to gain an approved law degree.Below is the link for LLB which is approved by the bar.

http://www.qub.ac.uk/schools/InstituteofPr...d,141842,en.pdf


You're right as scot's law llb is recognized only by faculty of advocates.

Furthermore,a level's ELS and tort law is same as in LLB year1?do we study the same or the basic one in a level?Thanks

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Added on November 22, 2009, 8:01 pmold law books can still be used? this is because they are keep updating right?if so we need to order the same book every year from the publisher?

This post has been edited by edennature: Nov 22 2009, 08:02 PM