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QUOTE(JTxj @ Jul 6 2008, 05:33 PM)
There is no such thing as future proofing when it comes to Graphic cards. A new one is always announced within 2 months.
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Yes there is,
at Q4 2008/Q1 2009, nvidia will adopt DX10.1,55nm and GDDR5 for their new card, buying current GTX200 now is ..<insert your own conclusion>..

QUOTE(JTxj @ Jul 6 2008, 05:53 PM)
Well, the closest thing to future proofing is just to get the latest graphics card. But here's the thing, DX10 is not essential, not until Windows 7 is in effect. The majority still use XP over Vista so whatever graphics card that has been launched within the last year will survive until the end of next year.
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DX10.1 is what DX10 suppose to be, or in other word, DX10.1 is the "real" DX10.

Take note that Windows 7 is base on Vista, so what makes you think Windows 7 will make DX10 essential?
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Haha, more new cards come out means price drops drastically for everything else, I predict in a year or two, everyone would be running SLI or Crossfire in their machines

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Take note that Windows 7 is base on Vista, so what makes you think Windows 7 will make DX10 essential?
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Sorry if I got the wrong idea conveyed. I meant that the minor graphical improvement of DX10 in Vista is not so drastic that everyone is required to switch over now (As many can testify + the fact that Vista still contains many problems)

Just stating a personal hope that Windows 7 would be the right time to upgrade since it's very much a Vista v2 where they will *hopefully* get it right, the time that DX10 will truly shine.

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QUOTE(pikacu @ Jul 6 2008, 09:02 PM)
Yes there is,
at Q4 2008/Q1 2009, nvidia will adopt DX10.1,55nm and GDDR5 for their new card, buying current GTX200 now is ..<insert your own conclusion>..
DX10.1 is what DX10 suppose to be, or in other word, DX10.1 is the "real" DX10.

Take note that Windows 7 is base on Vista, so what makes you think Windows 7 will make DX10 essential?
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So explain, why is DX10.1 what DX10 was supposed to be? I want to see evidence, not rumors.
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QUOTE(ikanayam @ Jul 6 2008, 10:01 PM)
So explain, why is DX10.1 what DX10 was supposed to be? I want to see evidence, not rumors.
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Sorry, there is no evidence but,

From what i read from various source (Wiki,etc),


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX_10#DirectX_10
http://www.pcper.com/images/reviews/472/Di...aper%20v0.4.pdf

From what I understand, DX10.0 had a buggy AA implementation. DX10.1 fixed that.

The shader/AA bug caused a huge slowdown. DX10.1 gets it back up to speed.

"DirectX 10.1 offers incremental improvements to the programming interface that address limitations of DirectX 10," read bugs "


Taken from this discussion topic at techPowerUp : http://www.techpowerup.com/64456/AMD_ATI_T...rectX_10.1.html

QUOTE(JTxj @ Jul 6 2008, 09:03 PM)
Just stating a personal hope that Windows 7 would be the right time to upgrade since it's very much a Vista v2 where they will *hopefully* get it right, the time that DX10 will truly shine.
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QUOTE(pikacu @ Jul 6 2008, 10:09 PM)
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well.. i think i read somewhere nvidia can enable DX10.1 features on its DX10 parts via extensions... is that so?
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QUOTE(pikacu @ Jul 6 2008, 10:09 PM)
Sorry, there is no evidence but,

From what i read from various source (Wiki,etc),


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX_10#DirectX_10
http://www.pcper.com/images/reviews/472/Di...aper%20v0.4.pdf

From what I understand, DX10.0 had a buggy AA implementation. DX10.1 fixed that.

The shader/AA bug caused a huge slowdown. DX10.1 gets it back up to speed.

"DirectX 10.1 offers incremental improvements to the programming interface that address limitations of DirectX 10," read bugs "


Taken from this discussion topic at techPowerUp : http://www.techpowerup.com/64456/AMD_ATI_T...rectX_10.1.html
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Exactly, there is no evidence because it's not true. And unlike what the moron there says, limitation != bug. Otherwise you'd have to call all the new versions of DX as simple bugfixes since they... (surprise surprise) add new features.
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QUOTE(ikanayam @ Jul 6 2008, 10:34 PM)
Exactly, there is no evidence because it's not true. And unlike what the moron there says, limitation != bug. Otherwise you'd have to call all the new versions of DX as simple bugfixes since they... (surprise surprise) add new features.
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yeah, no evidence on gaming (AC is excluded...they just accidentally DX10.1-ed their game)

however, DX10.1 features proven at Ray-Tracing rendering

@0168257061 malaysia still at old price of GTX260, before new price takes effect, HD4870 is better buy
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the revised price for GTX260 in RM about how much ? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(168257061 @ Jul 6 2008, 10:34 PM)
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260? 280 la tongue.gif

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QUOTE(168257061 @ Jul 6 2008, 11:10 PM)
the revised price for GTX260 in RM about how much ? unsure.gif
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same as 4870 price , $299 (RM9xx)
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If its same better grab 4870??
HD4870 performance is on par GTX 260 or better or abit slower?
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QUOTE(KenDiriwan @ Jul 7 2008, 12:12 AM)
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same as 4870 price , $299 (RM9xx)
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GX260 still have some advantage over the size of graphic card memory, so if u using some very video memory intensive app. GX260 is a better choice....

i understand that DX10.1 have new method of implementing the some advance AA rendering which significant reduces the workload of gpu compare to Dx10, but whether it have something to do with ray tracing or not i not sure about it
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QUOTE(LExus65 @ Jul 7 2008, 03:13 PM)
GX260 still have some advantage over the size of graphic card memory, so if u using some very video memory intensive app. GX260 is a better choice....

i understand that DX10.1 have new method of implementing the some advance AA rendering which significant reduces the workload of gpu compare to Dx10, but whether it have something to do with ray tracing or not i not sure about it
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if im not mistaken, GTX260 mostly behind to 4870 at high resolution sweat.gif

DX10.1 features/technology enhance ray-tracing rendering time , read it here : http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/38145/135/
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Sorry a noobie question... can GTX280 run on a P5Q Deluxe? what if its on SLI?
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Ah..... I see some sellers are already adjusting the pricing for GTX280. Available at RM19XX and such. Now thats good.
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Nvidia's GTX series soo expensive compare 2 Ati HD4000 series
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