Geforce GTX 200 Series, Ready for the next gen series?
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 Jul 5 2008, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(tech3910 @ Jul 5 2008, 02:25 PM) wats wrong wit it? isn't it good?  when new card price cut . your old Gc value also cut lol |
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Jul 5 2008, 02:35 PM
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 Gary May Cry 4 Group: Senior Member Posts: 1,646 Joined: June 2006 From: Kejang, Selangur  |
QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Jul 5 2008, 02:31 PM) you mean the price cut won't take effect in local market soon? err, from my post that u quote, what i mean is.. take a look at 9 series, when HD3870x2 comes out nVidia did not bother to pricecut any of their product, but to release 9800GX2 to gain back performance crown but at their GTX 200 series, the GTX 200 series launch not yet reach 1 month, and yet, they just do the price cut, which means, no higher-end product that can compete upcoming HD4870x2 ? time will tell.. p/s: this is my opinion This post has been edited by pikacu: Jul 5 2008, 02:36 PM |
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Jul 6 2008, 12:01 AM
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NVIDIA Predicts Weaker Earnings Due to Defective GPUs, Warns of Lower Sales
QUOTE Storm clouds are gathering as NVIDIA faces a reinvigorated competitor As the old saying goes, when it rains it pours. NVIDIA was performing beautifully thanks to aggressive pricing and performance of its 8000 series of graphics cards. It looked poised to leave competitor AMD (formerly ATI) in the dust. However, the latest round in graphics war has marked a dramatic turnaround with AMD's 4850 and 4870 outperforming NVIDIA's offerings at a lower price. While NVIDIA still holds a tenuous grip on the highest end offerings, with its GeForce GTX 280 GPU, this might soon slip, depending on the performance of AMD's dual processor 4870 X2 (R700) card, likely coming in Q3 2008. Meanwhile, NVIDIA faces challenges from Intel in its low-end and laptop graphics offerings, and from AMD's PUMA chipset/graphics package in the laptop market. The economic repercussions of NVIDIA's slippage are already visible. NVIDIA announced yesterday that it was going to turn in revenue of $875 million to $950 million for Q2 2008, which ends July 27. This is significantly lower than the current analyst expectations of $1.1 billion. That was not the end of the bad news from NVIDIA either. It announced that it was facing a massive recall, due to overheating GPUs in notebook computers. NVIDIA reported higher than average failures in both the laptop GPUs and in laptop chipsets. NVIDIA said that the chips and their packaging were made with materials that proved to be too "weak". NVIDIA passes the blame to notebook manufacturers, which it says contributes to the problem. Typically notebooks have poorer ventilation and components concentrated in a smaller space than desktop computers. The result of the recalls is that NVIDIA will be taking a onetime charge of $150M USD to $200M USD to cover the damages. It plans to use the money to repair or replace defective parts. It also hopes to collect part of the money from insurers it uses. However, it has acknowledged its problems and switched the materials it uses. The news has resulted in NVIDIA taking a beating on the stock market, sliding over 25 percent. Sos Cili |
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Jul 6 2008, 02:07 AM
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Jul 6 2008, 09:15 AM
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 The Old King Is Dead, Long Live The King Group: Senior Member Posts: 1,088 Joined: January 2006 From: Encrypted with AES; Go get a C3 to decipher, hos. |
QUOTE(pikacu @ Jul 5 2008, 02:35 PM) err, from my post that u quote, what i mean is.. take a look at 9 series, when HD3870x2 comes out nVidia did not bother to pricecut any of their product, but to release 9800GX2 to gain back performance crown but at their GTX 200 series, the GTX 200 series launch not yet reach 1 month, and yet, they just do the price cut, which means, no higher-end product that can compete upcoming HD4870x2 ? time will tell.. p/s: this is my opinion 1. It's pretty obvious that any "GTX290/ULTRA" chip will not outperform a 4870X2 in the majority of tests. So they're not bothering. 2. Maybe they went to the forums and saw that people were utterly sick at the degree of their arrogance, market flooding and one-upsmanship at all costs of users. I wonder if the 8800GTS 512MB guys still have "proper" drivers to use. Hohoho... |
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Jul 6 2008, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(nagflar @ Jul 5 2008, 03:34 PM) when new card price cut . your old Gc value also cut lol thats why  |
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Jul 6 2008, 02:20 PM
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 I miss my girl Group: Senior Member Posts: 1,057 Joined: November 2007 From: sarikei |
nvidia really suck money lor...
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Jul 6 2008, 02:24 PM
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Gary May Cry 4 Group: Senior Member Posts: 1,646 Joined: June 2006 From: Kejang, Selangur |
GTX280/GTX260/9800GTX is having more price cut again : http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=297724
This new pricing will take VERY LONG time to effect M'sia  |
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Jul 6 2008, 02:41 PM
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 Into Computer Since 2002 Group: Senior Member Posts: 3,747 Joined: January 2003 From: City of Lion  |
nice.
those who bought the gtx200 recently really can bang wall.  |
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Jul 6 2008, 03:12 PM
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 The God of Death Group: Senior Member Posts: 1,327 Joined: December 2007 From: Heaven and Hell |
QUOTE(X.E.D @ Jul 6 2008, 09:15 AM) I wonder if the 8800GTS 512MB guys still have "proper" drivers to use. Hohoho... well, i am still using the current nvidia vista drivers, hassle free dude..... no prob "at the moment" |
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Jul 6 2008, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Jul 6 2008, 02:41 PM) nice. those who bought the gtx200 recently really can bang wall. not necessary... i'm looking forward for 2nd/3rd card for SLI..LOL |
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Jul 6 2008, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(pikacu @ Jul 5 2008, 02:35 PM) err, from my post that u quote, what i mean is.. take a look at 9 series, when HD3870x2 comes out nVidia did not bother to pricecut any of their product, but to release 9800GX2 to gain back performance crown but at their GTX 200 series, the GTX 200 series launch not yet reach 1 month, and yet, they just do the price cut, which means, no higher-end product that can compete upcoming HD4870x2 ? time will tell.. p/s: this is my opinion That'll make 4870x2 have the ultimate performance crown. Impressive, but I want nvidia to make a monster with a monstrous price too. It's good for customers  .QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Jul 6 2008, 02:41 PM) nice. those who bought the gtx200 recently really can bang wall. Unless they say RM 200 to RM 400 is nothing (malaysian prices aren't nvidia's retail prices). |
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Jul 6 2008, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE(blindbox @ Jul 6 2008, 04:25 PM) That'll make 4870x2 have the ultimate performance crown. Impressive, but I want nvidia to make a monster with a monstrous price too. It's good for customers .Nvidia IS currently still the performance king with the XFX 9800GX2 Black Edition card roaming around. |
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Jul 6 2008, 05:19 PM
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Regular Group: Junior Member Posts: 450 Joined: February 2006 From: Cheras |
QUOTE(pikacu @ Jul 6 2008, 02:24 PM) GTX280/GTX260/9800GTX is having more price cut again : http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=297724 This new pricing will take VERY LONG time to effect M'sia 9800 GTX: $165 (S$199) = RM550  GTX 260: $222 (S$329) = RM730  GTX 280: $392 (S$499) = RM1.3k  |
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Jul 6 2008, 05:22 PM
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 The AMD's /ATi Member Since 1995 Group: Senior Member Posts: 1,861 Joined: August 2007 From: AMD's ATi Universe |
Wah the price cut so...
But the card not future proof.Why?Becos DirectX 10.1 maybe. |
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Jul 6 2008, 05:33 PM
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Newbie Group: Junior Member Posts: 47 Joined: July 2008 From: Big fish in a small pond |
QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Jul 6 2008, 05:22 PM) Wah the price cut so... But the card not future proof.Why?Becos DirectX 10.1 maybe. There is no such thing as future proofing when it comes to Graphic cards. A new one is always announced within 2 months. |
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Jul 6 2008, 05:37 PM
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The AMD's /ATi Member Since 1995 Group: Senior Member Posts: 1,861 Joined: August 2007 From: AMD's ATi Universe |
Yes.But would u buy again??
I mean like for those who want a permanent.Not an easy upgrade user. Those user that want a computer that last for x years and no upgrade.If GTX 2xx is using DX10 and then comes again GTX200b with support of DX10.1 the user have to buy again the GC which it is unknown the price. Like current HD 4870 as an example,you dont really have to worry about anything,becos DX 10.1 is already supported.No need to upgrade anytime soon. Like that i also can buy GTX 280 now.Then re-buy again the future card coming.So good,unless you have a money to do that. This post has been edited by AMDAthlon: Jul 6 2008, 05:38 PM |
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Jul 6 2008, 05:53 PM
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Newbie Group: Junior Member Posts: 47 Joined: July 2008 From: Big fish in a small pond |
QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Jul 6 2008, 05:37 PM) Yes.But would u buy again?? I mean like for those who want a permanent.Not an easy upgrade user. Those user that want a computer that last for x years and no upgrade.If GTX 2xx is using DX10 and then comes again GTX200b with support of DX10.1 the user have to buy again the GC which it is unknown the price. Like current HD 4870 as an example,you dont really have to worry about anything,becos DX 10.1 is already supported.No need to upgrade anytime soon. Like that i also can buy GTX 280 now.Then re-buy again the future card coming.So good,unless you have a money to do that. Well, the closest thing to future proofing is just to get the latest graphics card. But here's the thing, DX10 is not essential, not until Windows 7 is in effect. The majority still use XP over Vista so whatever graphics card that has been launched within the last year will survive until the end of next year. |
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Jul 6 2008, 06:03 PM
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The Old King Is Dead, Long Live The King Group: Senior Member Posts: 1,088 Joined: January 2006 From: Encrypted with AES; Go get a C3 to decipher, hos. |
QUOTE(norazwan79 @ Jul 6 2008, 05:19 PM) 9800 GTX: $165 (S$199) = RM550 GTX 260: $222 (S$329) = RM730 GTX 280: $392 (S$499) = RM1.3k That's OEM/AIB pricing la. |
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Jul 6 2008, 07:31 PM
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Regular Group: Junior Member Posts: 450 Joined: February 2006 From: Cheras |
QUOTE(X.E.D @ Jul 6 2008, 06:03 PM) That's OEM/AIB pricing la. But it meant nVidia still can get profit even they reduce the price drastically. before this, nVidia untung besar la. Thanks to ATI save us from nVidia. |
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