A troll with max bash at level 11, with items: power thread, 2 wraith band, helm of dominator can virtually pawn anyone.
So how to win him 1 on 1? It gets even worse when he cast blind on you.

lord of avernus with 1 pt and 1 blademail = gg him d la

lion stun
lion hit
lion hit
lion vodoo
lion hit
lion hit
lion ulti

you cant harm troll, he suck life like mad whislt you're getting bashed. And you did no damage to him because you're getting bashed. The damage from blademail is replenish from his helm of dominator.

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Added on April 18, 2008, 1:12 pm


That may work if he's under level 20. After, that when he has enough hp, lion will be meat.

This post has been edited by hatekiasuppl: Apr 18 2008, 01:12 PM

Bane Elemental is able to counter him. With max Enfeeble, I doubt Troll is able to harm you much.

Avatared Troll is another case.

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just run ^^
troll if u use lion he cant even farm la bro
keep killing him will do...
btw ulti+dagon+guinsoo+hex+stun bout
4+4+2 sec to hit him
sure die la
even got ally troll oso tofu unless got timestopper and magnus
another way to win troll is use sladar ulti troll hit a few time only ^^

troll at lv11 still can be beaten...for example use luna ulti plus normal attack plus lucent beam=troll sleep on the ground BUT
if troll gets to lv20 with 2 basher+satanic+mkb+power threads..there is no WAY u can 1vs1 him..even 3vs1...lol...unless there is a high lvl faceless void in ur gang..3vs1 can killa troll but even FV 1vs1 troll at the same lvl for example lvl25 FV ns lv25 Troll will eat shit..lol
Troll is one the strongest melee hero in the game, second goes to Centaur third to FV...
ps: one advise is..NEVER let TROLL farm, he is tofu early game so make sure kill him as many times as u can early game then in late game he will be useless..

This post has been edited by fevercrash: Apr 19 2008, 08:23 AM

lol...nvr tot can met hatekiasuppl here...

anyway...sandking can gua...u borrowstrike troll,than hit him few times lo,i am sure
troll hp wont be that high de,but if u almost die,cast d sand storm la...

the best way to counter a troll is by ignoring them

if u ignore a troll it will die by itself

Aiyoooo........ use SB cn win troll alrdy

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Added on April 21, 2008, 12:25 amIf u pro ........ use furion also can win



This post has been edited by hotzsaucez: Apr 21 2008, 12:25 AM

ya????all depends on the user la ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ there is no strongest hero imba hero la..

off topic bit
well, to be fair
it can be rate in alot conditions

user itself(skills to tackle your opponent),current situation(troll maybe half hp only during the duel,was caught by surprise)...position ure standing in the map(is it the easiest path to engage battle?some hero does better side to side battle..some from direct angle,troll hug tower perhaps?walking at river?),did luck played a part?(stop by a creep for last hit or something)

an example: top lane...assuming troll is solo-ing top lane
and ure using lion....im sure if lion want to catch troll by surprise..he would ambush him from the forest instead of a direct front to front angle...well,not to say front angle doesnt work...when you can ambush..who wouldnt?
unless u guarentee a kill. and the list goes on

all this happens...just that nobody really take account for it..we can really go in detail about this
but to everybody and most dota-players
what matters most is your enemy is dead.
then its the end of story

troll is one of the most stupid heroes in game. Why? look at ALL the competition matches, see any troll? no. cos when in a game with all/mostly pros (not hard to find nowadays after so many years of dota), troll cant do shxt except getting killed.

in early game...
troll does not have disabling skills (screw blind, int own u anyday early game) = useless in gank/saving teammates/protecting self.
troll does not have long hp and/or escape skill (screw rampage, 1 stun already enough to own your puny S cos of short hp) = hug tower also die = feed 9 9
troll does not have AoE = stand there normal hitting enemies while they chainfrost/disable/lightning etc u and ur teammate?
troll does not have Nuke = same as above.

so, in a game of pros, even if a pro like vigoss got troll also cant avoid the fate of "farm zero", or worse, die like ants. and if u feed with troll, u can't own.

conclusion?
never feed a troll

= = so u think a pro mirana/lion/easrthsaker/TB/wateverhero will feed a troll? I could out escape a troll with satanic + bfly anytime

where got no imba hero
there always imba
that why keep changing so ppl will play dota
if not then all wanna use 1 hero only cos it imba

the bolded part says it all, of course there are also alot of hero that u can't let them farm, consider putting troll in the top list, cheers

use shaman la
if he dun hav bkb u can counter troll easily even whn he is high lvl
if he got bkb but a lothar to counter

Are u sure tat troll at lv 11 wit those item can pawn anyone ?

not everyone but almost everyone, cheers