but in terms of preference how? matrik at least got somewhere to go if public uni reject u... if asasi, they dun giv u the course, u cant run d....... u r stuck to the uni am i right?

lol..if that's all..
just work hard..
it's all up to u actually..

matrix not for public uni only izzit??

if wan compare so much
can take stpm..
can go oversea somemore..

did you not read the long intro on the 1st page? matrik is only for malays lah....so what you upset about about?

only about 6 years ago, did they decide to open up to 10% of matrik to non malays, supposedly to spur competition as the all malay environment was producing poor results......

observations of those non malays chosen suggest 2nd tier students were selected on a rather random fashion.....few high scorers were chosen......

so non malays chosen are there on sufferance, as pacer horses, if you know what I mean, and you should be thankful they at least allow 10% of places to 'others'....

as for fairness, since when has policies based of the nep been fair?.......this is the real world called msia........

yeah matrik there are some private unis which accept.

lik healthcare line you can go to IMU

engineering u can go to UNITEN, etc.

STPM is out of the question la.. way too tough...

the moe, and ministers involved, as well as some matrik students would like you to believe that the matrik and stpm are of the same difficulty and standards, you don't believe meh?

what's ur spm result?may i knw it ASAP ?

me get 5a(2 a1, 3a2), 4b, 2c

got matric johor.

haha i certainly dont believe.. personal friend's experience, top guy in class, went for STPM still couldnt score 4A.

however, one of the slackers in class, went for matrics and got 4.00 CGPA

This post has been edited by arsenwagon: Apr 16 2008, 11:33 PM

well ..
who knows..
some people can catch up fast with his studies while other's not..

n anyway..
stpm is by far hardest exam la..
cannot be compared with matric,diploma n foundation..

if you read that in conjunction with the first part, it is not wrong.......in the earlier days, matrik is purely for malays only, and i supposed they do select from amongst the malays based on merit....after jpa and mara had their pick of the best for overseas scholarships.......

however, when you add in non malays into the mixture, of course it is NOT meritocracy, no matter how much they try to say it is.........

7a1, 1a2, 2b3, 1b4 (GCE a2)

actually what is the road after coming out from matrik ? Only IPTA ?
Do IPTA really good ?

Those adults keep saying me stupid for choosing foundation even being selected for matriculation
They say free and got money take.

ya.. its totally a different league altogether.

that's why people tend to avoid STPM.

if not , you wouldnt see colleges thriving.

even STPM vs A levels, STPM is much deeper.

see what i mean........?

in any case, since the majority here agrees that the two are NOT the same standard, and stpm is so much harder, does anyone here believe the moe's assertion that entry into ipta from matrik and stpm is based purely on merit?.......

and those of you getting into matrik........you don't feel guilty about this?.......or it's everyone for himself?..who cares about injustice if it doesn't affect me?...

This post has been edited by limeuu: Apr 16 2008, 11:44 PM

ya..go try buy their reference book..
fuhh..so deep

anyway..
if u can realy study smart n hard..
n play a little ..to release some stress~
go and take stpm..
just make sure to score realy2 well..
it's worth it..

anyone wants to hazard a guess why the moe make the stpm so tough?.....

for those who have nowhere to go..
so they will work hard for this ..
it's even recognized by other country..

you lost me.........that's the reasons the moe makes the stpm a hell exam?......so that people with no choice can go there to work hard, and cry when their results are recognised by other countries but since they have nowhere to go (which basically means no money), they cannot go to these other countries, and cannot get into ipta because the places are filled by matrik students?.......

Guys do you know when will the results for the foundation for local U's be out? (example asasi sains hayat UM) If im not mistaken I read a long time ago that we were to check for it in the middle of april.

my reason is simple.. if you cant beat them, join them.

when you've joined them long enough , one day u can find a way to beat them

as in becoming policy makers etc...