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post Apr 26 2008, 01:02 AM
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It is rather annoying to use windows but I need it for new games and only that. No need to pull out my hair running anything else in windows. Everything I need is available in Linux in fact it's even faster here. Anyway I'm surprised your windows loading is faster. My system loads Linux faster. Well, at least I remember it that way. Don't have win partition anymore. Don't need it for this system. (A Radeon DDR 64 a.k.a radeon 7200 can't play new games anyway....)

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LOL.

i can't get certain applications to behave well in linux's wine.
that is why windows only survives.
as a 1-2 application dummy os laugh.gif
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post Apr 26 2008, 09:55 AM
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Same here. Wine's a hit and miss with newer applications or games (actually some old stuff won't work either). Thankfully I found native Linux programs for all that I need to use. I guess if I need to use a less popular or known windows app for work or somethin it'd be a headache to setup in wine...
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post Apr 26 2008, 11:46 AM
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I'm a week old Ubuntu Gutsy user... The reason? The vista basic shipped with my Dell lappy is just lame...
I'm not an avid game player anyway, so, Ubuntu gets everything done, speed and in style.
*I'm a non-conformist anyway, so many people using Windows, so I need something fresh.
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post Apr 26 2008, 12:07 PM
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Welcome to the fraternity thumbup.gif
Shiny desktop without vista's lameness~~ Have you tried any 3D desktop environments?
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post Apr 26 2008, 03:58 PM
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well those stuff loses its novelty value quickly after you've wow-ed everyone tongue.gif

though many winDOS supporters say AERO gives the display a high-quality look.
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Welp, it's still nice to enable it on your laptop. Whenever you're in public like making presentations or giving talks it makes people go oooh and aaaah biggrin.gif Also 3D screensaver on laptops too biggrin.gif My desktop just blanks out tongue.gif No need to impress meself.

Anyways some bling features are actually useful like semi-transparent inactive windows and in fact the multi-desktop which would seem like an extra feature for win users is a basic feature of any linux desktop environment. Can separate ur work into different desktops so not much clutter~~
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post Apr 26 2008, 11:23 PM
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HAHaha.....they can have multi virtual desktops but i doubt it is stable.

Can they do this on an entry level spec computer?
d1 = burn dvd
d2 = rip cd
d3 = watching divx movie
d4 = surfing, email, IM, etc

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I even had one beta program once called cube.
It can run 8 different media/movie files simultaneously on 8 faces wink.gif
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post Apr 27 2008, 03:01 AM
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3days old ubuntu user here..really...getting used 2 it is really pain in d @ss,..there r way 2 many ways 2 get 1 thngy done...but not everyway suitable 4 ur cases, some might worked with others, but might failed with u..
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QUOTE(zenix @ Apr 26 2008, 03:58 PM)
well those stuff loses its novelty value quickly after you've wow-ed everyone tongue.gif

though many winDOS supporters say AERO gives the display a high-quality look.
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That high quality look thing is more to do with the stark contrast between Aero and the previous non double buffered GUI on windows. To give an example, when your system is busy, and you are to drag windows over each other, you'll find ghost images of the window in front lagging behind on the windows under. This is what that makes things look rather sloppy. Linux tends to have this problem as well, but making use of one of the 3D desktop thingy such as Beryl and so forth resolves this problem on Linux too. And not to mention, OS X has been making use of double buffered windows to prevent such ghost windows for ages already.

In short, yes, its something new to windows, but not new to other OS.
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post Apr 27 2008, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE(ben_ang @ Apr 27 2008, 03:01 AM)
3days old ubuntu user here..really...getting used 2 it is really pain in d @ss,..there r way 2 many ways 2 get 1 thngy done...but not everyway suitable 4 ur cases, some might worked with others, but might failed with u..
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Try Linux Mint (it's a distro based on Ubuntu), I had better results with it than installing Ubuntu.
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oh well.. now trying 2 find a better movie player, d totem cant play rmvb, i dun wan download a real player 4 watching only, mplayer got some playback prob with certain files..if really cannot then revert back 2 winxp..
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vlc might or might not work, last time I check, no luck running rmvb file, other by real player. So I pretty much gave up on using rmvb(guess I am lucky to able to avoid it)
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QUOTE(sweemeng @ Apr 27 2008, 10:55 PM)
vlc might or might not work, last time I check, no luck running rmvb file, other by real player. So I pretty much gave up on using rmvb(guess I am lucky to able to avoid it)
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You can use MPlayer to play rmvb files, mine worked right out-of-the-box on Linux Mint. In fact I could play almost any media files including Microsoft wmv files.
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QUOTE(fyire @ Apr 27 2008, 09:59 AM)
That high quality look thing is more to do with the stark contrast between Aero and the previous non double buffered GUI on windows. To give an example, when your system is busy, and you are to drag windows over each other, you'll find ghost images of the window in front lagging behind on the windows under. This is what that makes things look rather sloppy. Linux tends to have this problem as well, but making use of one of the 3D desktop thingy such as Beryl and so forth resolves this problem on Linux too. And not to mention, OS X has been making use of double buffered windows to prevent such ghost windows for ages already.

In short, yes, its something new to windows, but not new to other OS.
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Linux and OSX has had fantastic displays for sometime now, more so for OSX because of hardware restrictions. Linux having to average out its performance to suit all sorts of hardware does take a performance hit IMHO.

QUOTE(ben_ang @ Apr 27 2008, 10:49 PM)
oh well.. now trying 2 find a better movie player, d totem cant play rmvb, i dun wan download a real player 4 watching only, mplayer got some playback prob with certain files..if really cannot then revert back 2 winxp..
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mint linux without restrictions can play almost all formats.
it is meant to be a home theather kinda distro of sorts but without vivo functions.
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post Apr 28 2008, 03:10 AM
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QUOTE(ben_ang @ Apr 27 2008, 10:49 PM)
oh well.. now trying 2 find a better movie player, d totem cant play rmvb, i dun wan download a real player 4 watching only, mplayer got some playback prob with certain files..if really cannot then revert back 2 winxp..
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try installing Automatix and use it to install the restricted codecs...

although automatix is stopped at gutsy.....it's still there now, so if you're using ubuntu gutsy or earlier versions...u can try it out...


Added on April 28, 2008, 3:14 ambtw, if you don't play games and do want to run windows xp and use it for stuff like listening to songs or doing office work, and dun wan to dual-boot.....try installing it as a virtual OS using VirtualBox...it's pretty handy...if u really really really don't want windows running at the base of your comp....

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still dunno wat i'm gonna do abt it, just wanna try wat it can do..frankly it only fulfill 20% of my requirement..then i just used it only a couple of days, so i guess will giv it more time.. c if it suits me..virtualbox is also an option, but will it eat up many resources till its slow when runnig d OS inside?
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linux malaysians ...
Well i am a 6 months old linux ubuntu user, and i have my share of bumbpy rides. i started off with wubi, then later on windows currupted has led me to installing windows xp dualboot with ubuntu. linux takes time to get use to .. all things seem so difficult. thank god that i have so much time to learn linux and now i have even use ubuntuserever as my file server. i even tried out mysql php apache lamp server ... all these for free and those stuff are really powerful. .. i support linux becos of its moto of "free world and free ideas" knowledge is priceless .. and i hate microsoft bill who monopolise the PC software market ... till now ... i still have to use windows becos of some games and some apps but not much ... i will never go for vistas and who knows waht windows7 bull.




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QUOTE(wenhui100 @ Apr 28 2008, 11:12 AM)
linux malaysians ...
                              Well i am a 6 months old linux ubuntu user, and i have my share of bumbpy rides. i started off with wubi, then later on windows currupted has led me to installing windows xp dualboot with ubuntu. linux takes time to get use to .. all things seem so difficult. thank god that i have so much time to learn linux and now i have even use ubuntuserever as my file server. i even tried out mysql php apache lamp server ... all these for free and those stuff are really powerful. .. i support linux becos of its moto of "free world and free ideas" knowledge is priceless .. and i hate microsoft  bill who monopolise the PC software market ... till now ... i still have to use windows becos of some games and some apps but not much ... i will never go for vistas and who knows waht windows7 bull.
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welcome to the club wink.gif
this is what linux is all about.
people learning and liking linux for themselves.
for people like ben_ang we can just guide him abit but if they think linux doesn't fufill their needs then i doubt any OS would because linux is so flexible it can be an OS for your handphone up to a nuclear plant control system, yet it doesn't seem to fill his wants doh.gif
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I just want to share my own experience in dabbling with Linux. My first successful run with Linux was with Fedora Core 3 running on an old notebook (can't even remember the brand already) with a Pentium 166 MHz processor with 128MB RAM. I use it at the office for working on spreadsheets using Open Office Calc just to see whether it's true what they say about cross compatibility with MS Excel.

Well, I am convinced. So I tried installing it to my Pentium 866 MHz desktop. Not good enough. The multimedia files takes a pain to play on the Linux multimedia applications. The auto power off doesn't work.

From then on I was on the hunt for a version that works better. I found Mandriva Linux. It plays mp3 files right out-of-the-box but not video files especially if it's a DiVx or Xvid encoded one, Worse still if it's Quicktime or Realmedia.

There's limited software on Mandriva and you have to 'buy' support if you want more features or certain drivers to work, so I was on the hunt for a better distro. I found the answer to my NVidia driver woes: SUSE Linux 10. It was much better than Mandriva, I decided to install on my newly purchased 15.4" Centrino Acer Aspire 1690. It works like a charm, even the wi-fi works right away. I was excited, I thought I found the ultimate Linux until I tried playing DVD and the other media files. Only mp3 works using Amarok. The rest of of the media files? You got to search for countless lib files till I just gave up.

So I tried various other distro:PCOSLinux, Sabayon, DreamLinux, Fedore Core from FC4 to FC8, Debian and Gentoo. Most of them have problems to get installed: blank screen after installation boot..

Me I am not much of a CLI user. I have very limited knowledge of the shell commands, just simple ones like ls, pwd, cd /, mv. So if I encounter a blank screen I consider the distro ain't good enough.

Till I found Linux Mint. I had issues with Linux Mint Bianca (I got "You will be divorced within 3 years" at the installation screen!) but Linux Mint Daryna works well for me. I had issues with the NVidia drivers (it won't stick even after you enable the restricted drivers) at first but Envy helps out on that one.

Daryna is my companion now. Even though I dualboot with Vista, it's been months since I log in to Vista. Now that it's have been smooth sailing I am going to get rid of the Vista partition for good on the next reinstallation. Besides, it's the 'ahem' version.

I want to be a free man, free of guilt...I am now, thanks to the Mark Shuttleworth and the Ubuntu and Linux Mint community



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