I myself is an ex-Ubuntu user, I have been using Ubuntu as my primary OS for few months but finally I decided to go back to Windows for some reason--it does not meet my requirement in many ways. I wonder why you all use Linux? your job needed? it looks cool? you are just interested to learn something new? or you are purely supporting freeware? And u use Linux to serve for what purpose? Networking? Desktop usage?

This post has been edited by .kai: Mar 27 2008, 01:36 AM

I run OSX for business applications, and Linux for any thing other than that. Both I've been using for a years. Linux have been quite good and all my needs are met, this is for my desktop. I don't use Windows be cos all my needs are being met by Linux and there are no fees paid, hence the support for free ware. For a license Windows+Office=RM1000 vs Free ware which basically works the same. Would I pay 30% of total workstation cost for an OS that requires me to pay some more license fees for anti virus, spy ware etc ?
I'm sure your 'requirements in many ways' can be resolved on the an Ubuntu forum and you can continue to enjoy splendid OS+applications in Linux.

Thanks, what I want cannot be done in Linux, I need an alternative of Adobe suite, however gimp / inkscape is still far behind adobe. So you are using Linux for your business? glad to know more and more people found the true value of Linux!

Btw actually there is another problem when im using Ubuntu -- I cant play some video file format properly

so far i have no problem playing any video file in my ubuntu.
wmv, avi, flv, rmvb, and etc all can be play in ubuntu.

mind to tell us wat video file u cant play

that's true, I was not able to play a real dvd9 dual layer in Linux at the moment but I'm sure if I needed to I will find a way. At the moment the need is not there. Other video files no problem.
As for Adobe perhaps u can try Crossover Office or lastly dual boot.
Welcome back to Linux then.

beside using crossover office, or dual boot, you may also try to install windows on Virtual Machine such as Vmware, Qemu, VirtualBox, etc. then install the software you need in that virtual machine, when need to use, just boot it up and use.

this is what i do for me to use those application which cannot or hardly run on linux.

i don't use window, is mainly because of virus, spy ware, Trojan attack, and i do not wan to waste my CPU, RAM resource for Antivirus Software. haha. and i am very comfortable with linux.

linux for bypass tmnut throttling bandwidth.............
linux for hacking..............
linux for programming..................

that's what I'm using for

Linux is fun, exciting, full of new things, nothing to do? Then go and open the config files, the source code, many weird weird programs, and do research, then write shell scripts, do bash programming, etc...hack windows password XD. Not like Windows, everyday it's the same, dull, boring, see liao wanna sleep...ZzzzzzzzzzZzzZzZZZzZZZzzZzzzzzzzzzz....sleep liao nightmare leh....coz BSoD...

This post has been edited by randytsx: Mar 28 2008, 10:51 AM

I just used it for fun onli! Usually i used it to surf web onli! Nothing else!

I not so sure, if not mistaken is all formats (or divx/rmvb?), it is playing in black n white color that time i cant figure out the problem, so just let it be.



I havent try installing Windows on virtual machine yet but i guess it will be much slower than you run it from a real Windows right?

When I am using Linux, I also found that it is less responsive than Windows, and 'good' softwares are less. In my point of view it is less productive for people who only want to get job done without getting himself doing apt-get all the day (but it is free! this is always one of the best reason to choose Linux)

This post has been edited by .kai: Mar 29 2008, 01:33 AM

It takes some times for ppl to get use to linux. I am sure that you also takes some times to familiarize yourself with windows the first time you use it. You can always have the softwares that is not available for linux in a virtual machine of windows inside linux host. All the memory and processor power you saved from using linux can be use to run the virtual windows

i've found some ppl think is cool when they using Linux they can show off to thier friend that they are expert


for me, as my client still win xp cause got many multimedia app couldnt run on linux i have no choice so i rather use prirated

i dont use linux at home but i use linux during work
my laptop still dual boot win xp n linux. and during work, i just putty to the linux box

for me i never think linux can replace windows

I have always heard that Linux use up less resource than xp because xp got a lot of antivirusspyware etc, but actually I feel it is almost the same, running Linux on the same machine doesnt significantly faster than xp (seriously i feel it is slower --longer startup, less responsive), perhaps you are right people are just not familiar with Linux just like when they start using Windows at first, but not using wizard guide setup is really a pain for ordinary people.



so many in ur reply haha.
Yea I feel it is cool to use Linux too
for me i never think linux can replace windows <-- at first i thought it can.. who know in future Linux will dominate the computer world?

This post has been edited by .kai: Mar 29 2008, 04:20 PM

yup linux is very cool....

say bye2 to virus....

Linux does use less resources than win xp especially when one using XFCE, enlightenment, etc instead of KDE or Gnome. I believe that the upcoming KDE 4.1 uses even less resources than current 3.5.9 version.

Startup is certainly slower than win xp but who needs to restart their computers that often. Linux is stable for months, unlike windows xp which will crash for no apparent reason after leaving it for a week. However, that are several projects that aimed at reducing startup time. I think suse linux is developing one.

Reasons why I use linux:
1. No virus, spywares, adwares. Actually there are some virus. But they cannot take down your whole system because of linux's unique file permission system - also found in mac os I guess. Worst case scenario, delete your /home folder and recreate a new one. No need to reformat your whole computer. They don't attack home users though. Implication: No need to use antivirus softwares that only slows down your computer.

2. The open source nature of the software - GPL license. Since there is no one single entity who control the software development, I can rest assured that linux and GNU project will continue. If the developer decides to quit, anyone can take up the project as the software code (or blueprint) is available for anyone to see.

3. As the software blueprint is opened for everyone to see, any bugs (or software errors) can be fixed very quickly. Anyone from around the world will be able to make the fix and send it to the developer directly. Updates are frequent. There's freedom of making software improvements by anyone. Implication: You know that you'll always get up-to-date softwares and quick bug fixes.

4. Linux's filesystem is cooler. You do not need to leave your computer overnight to defrag.

5. There is a feeling of freedom while using such open source software. You have complete control of your computer. You choose what ever you want to be installed to your computer.

6. Compiz Fusion - This puts Mac OSX and Aero to shame. mac os is cool, but aero is really really lame. You can run Compiz fusion on a 256MB ram computer. Even windows xp will be slow at 256MB of RAM. Let alone Vista which need a minimum of 1000MB of ram

7. I can install softwares from synaptics. No more hunting softwares on the internet and worrying about viruses or adware that might hit me.

8. I have almost all the softwares I need right after installing linux. this holds true in case of Linux Mint, PCLinuxOS, etc. Can you say the same for windows xp? I can play all my musics, videos, flash, office documents, pdf files, zip, rar, 7z, (almost everything under the sun), use skype, chat using Pidgin, Firefox pre-installed, straightaway.

9. Installs very fast - about 20 minutes. As opposed to my win xp OEM version which takes 90 minutes!

10. I oppose monopolists and those who used dirty tricks. Monopoly is bad and I hate bad guys.

11. You can choose which desktop environment you want (KDE, gnome, xfce, enlightenment, etc), window manager (kwin, gnome). It's extremely customizable.

12. Owh, most of linux operating system is free (no need to buy) like ubuntu, linux mint, PCLinuxOS, etc. No feeling of guilt in using pirated softwares. It's like stealing. Say no to pirates!

13. Community support is wonderful. Ubuntu forums and pclinuxos forum are an excellent place to find almost instant help as you meet real people. They are very friendly towards new linux users.

eh, I could go on. But I'll stop for now..

Linux is actually slowly rising in its popularity - if you read the news. Many governments and educational groups are turning to linux and open source softwares to reduce cost and obliterate dependency on one company - like Malaysia, some states in india, russia, UK, etc

You need to run Photoshop CS3? Yes you can, using WINE. Microsoft Office,? Uee WINE or crossover. Some games - WINE too. I dual boot to play some games, but for everything else (college work, surfing, music, movies, etc) there's linux. Now windows xp is my gaming console

I don't think linux is for experts only. I have a female friend, using linux mint 100%. She removed windows from her computer. She even refused to use windows after I said she can use yahoo messenger using VirtualBox. She's loving it! She explored it by herself and is proud to show off the 3D effects to her friends. I read many success story of such geeks installing linux for their girlfriend, parents and grandma.

Problems:
1. No drivers for linux (wireless, monitor, other things).Thanks to ALSA project, ATI, Intel, that old webcam grandpa guy, etc, drivers in linux has improved significantly. when compared three years ago when I started using linux. Unfortunately, many hardware manufacturers still do not make drivers for linux. There are some initiative to develop drivers for them freely though.

2. Software availability - Not really relevant. You have excellent alternatives, even better than its windows counterpart. Worst case scenario, there's always WINE and VirtualBox.

3. People do not know the existence of linux - Linux is used is servers, among the world's supercomputers, mobile phones, cars, etc. It's not prevalent among desktop users yet.

4. Games - Many pc games still do not run under linux. There's initiative to combat this such as wine. Once the number of linux users grows, they will have to develop for linux as well. Do I need to mention OpenGL is much superior than the Directx 10?

5. There are some elite linux users who still do not believe that linux is ready to take on the world. They are wrong, look at how successful Ubuntu is.

6. Thus linux is hard. It's only for pro hackers: Not true. If you grow up using linux, then windows will be hard at first time use. You just need time to adjust yourself to a new environment. Even a grandma can use linux. My parents insist that I install linux on their desktop. I know that I'm not alone.

7. er... what else?

wow wat a long post there,
tl;dr

for me, just for fun and torrenting
but it seems like my utorrent speed is back in action,
wont use ubuntu 4 the time being, unless new driver comes out that support my hd3870

does anyone tell u tat u talk just like mojo jojo?



if u doing creative stuff i'd suggest you go over to OSX.
the biggest problem with linux doing creative stuff is color pallete when printing.

give Mint Linux (unrestricted) a try.

is it easy to install and use vmware + linux?
or is there any section/guide in this forum that have step by step of install/use linux on virtual?

I recommend Virtualbox.

Installing Linux on VMWare is exactly the same as like you install Linux in a new machine.
The bigger problem would be installing VMWare itself on your machine.