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> Dwight Howard = Worse Dunk EVER, man...HE SUX.

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post Feb 23 2008, 10:32 PM


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QUOTE(scorgio @ Feb 23 2008, 09:22 PM)
Keep Moon out of the discussion pls.
Fine.
I saw Smith's heel on the FT line.

Well, if that doesn't qualify by YOUR standards, it's entirely up to you.


Added on February 23, 2008, 9:29 pm
Can't understand.
When all 5 judges are not complaining.
There're people , so particular, want to debate the correct definition of "DUNK".
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u gotta understand. this is the nba. Howard came up with the most showmanship thats why he won.
Showmanship and entertainment wins in an NBA Slam Dunk contest.
and before you edited your post, you said the commentators said Howard jumped so high or sth. But after watching the video time and again he jumped the same height as Green when Green did the ladder dunk.
Its just that Howard is able to throw the ball in cause his hand is longer.
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post Feb 23 2008, 11:12 PM


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QUOTE(A-Ren @ Feb 23 2008, 10:32 PM)
and before you edited your post, you said the commentators said Howard jumped so high or sth. But after watching the video time and again he jumped the same height as Green when Green did the ladder dunk.
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Yes. I said that BUT I DIDN'T edit my post.

And let's not talk about Green & wingspan now. Stay within our earlier issues.

Do you admit you made a mistake for saying Josh Smith never did a 2-handed dunk from the FT line?
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post Feb 23 2008, 11:14 PM


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QUOTE(scorgio @ Feb 23 2008, 11:12 PM)
Yes. I said that BUT I DIDN'T edit my post.

And let's not talk about Green & wingspan now. Stay within our earlier issues.

Do you admit you made a mistake for saying Josh Smith never did a 2-handed dunk from the FT line?
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Hey please stick to the original issue about howard's dunk.
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post Feb 23 2008, 11:18 PM


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QUOTE(tomatos @ Feb 23 2008, 11:14 PM)
Hey please stick to the original issue about howard's dunk.
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Nothing more to add.

It's either you like it or don't.

It's whether it's a DUNK or not.

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post Feb 23 2008, 11:43 PM


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no matter what.. he is the winner
haha
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post Feb 24 2008, 02:46 AM


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QUOTE(scorgio @ Feb 23 2008, 09:22 PM)
Keep Moon out of the discussion pls.
Fine.
I saw Smith's heel on the FT line.

Well, if that doesn't qualify by YOUR standards, it's entirely up to you.


Added on February 23, 2008, 9:29 pm
Can't understand.
When all 5 judges are not complaining.
There're people , so particular, want to debate the correct definition of "DUNK".
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see if you dont need to get to the rim, it takes distance away.

i will ask you one question, if next year someone took off from the 3 point, he cant reach the rim. but he throws it in would you give him it? after all he would have a longer distance, which means a harder throw at least.

the 5 didnt complain when they gave nate robinson the win.
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post Feb 24 2008, 07:08 AM


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its bout creating ur own signature dunk .. dats wat brings the 10's in... if u copy peoples dunk or do some basic dunks.. u have to do it better den the ones who created d dunk which is really hard to accomplish...n dat doesnt guarantee u a perfect 10... now its all bout creating ur own signature dunk dat wins the fan and the judges at that particular year ...
my personal opinion is dat its unfair for judges to give points instantly on every dunk.. it should be given after all the dunkers have performed their dunk so dey can make comparison and den decide the points..

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post Feb 24 2008, 08:53 AM


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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Feb 24 2008, 02:46 AM)
i will ask you one question, if next year someone took off from the 3 point, he cant reach the rim. but he throws it in would you give him it? after all he would have a longer distance, which means a harder throw at least.

the 5 didnt complain when they gave nate robinson the win.
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Nate Robinson successfully executed his dunk, only that he took 20+ tries.
Yes, it was unfair. But as I said earlier, the rules had changed since then.
So why you insist on bringing in 2 year old issues?? rclxub.gif sweat.gif

I don't want to make assumptions. It's humanly impossible (as of now) to leap from the NBA 3pt line to even touch the rim with bare hand.
Anyone who could do that can break the world record for long jump & triple jump by a huge margin.
So no "IF".
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post Feb 24 2008, 11:32 AM


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QUOTE(scorgio @ Feb 24 2008, 08:53 AM)
Nate Robinson successfully executed his dunk, only that he took 20+ tries.
Yes, it was unfair. But as I said earlier, the rules had changed since then.
So why you insist on bringing in 2 year old issues??  rclxub.gif  sweat.gif

I don't want to make assumptions. It's humanly impossible (as of now) to leap from the NBA 3pt line to even touch the rim with bare hand.
Anyone who could do that can break the world record for long jump & triple jump by a huge margin.
So no "IF".
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cause it was unfair, and to prove that the 5 can be too.

well he doesnt need to touch the rim anymore, he can throw the ball in at the freethrow line.
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post Feb 24 2008, 12:28 PM


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QUOTE(scorgio @ Feb 23 2008, 11:12 PM)
Yes. I said that BUT I DIDN'T edit my post.

And let's not talk about Green & wingspan now. Stay within our earlier issues.

Do you admit you made a mistake for saying Josh Smith never did a 2-handed dunk from the FT line?
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Josh Smith didn't do a 2-handed dunk from the FT line. It was inside the free-throw line. U admitted it yourself...wtf u drunk or sth?


You edited your post. thats for sure.
Obviously wingspan plays a part in dunking a basketball.
And its obvious on that Superman dunk.
You made a point Howard jumped so high but in fact Howard jumped just as high as Green but Howard's longer wingspan allowed him to throw the damm ball in.

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post Feb 24 2008, 05:33 PM


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QUOTE(A-Ren @ Feb 24 2008, 12:28 PM)
You edited your post. thats for sure.

This is the post I mentioned <commentators said during Howard's dunk "He was up so high he threw the ball through the basket".>
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=15781931

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QUOTE(A-Ren)
Josh Smith didn't do a 2-handed dunk from the FT line. It was inside the free-throw line. U admitted it yourself...wtf u drunk or sth?

Is the heel part of the foot?
If I'm drunk, then you must be BLIND. cool2.gif
Take a look at the attached pic, would ya!!

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Obviously wingspan plays a part in dunking a basketball.
And its obvious on that Superman dunk.
You made a point Howard jumped so high but in fact Howard jumped just as high as Green but Howard's longer wingspan allowed him to throw the damm ball in.
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Yes. Wingspan is important.
I didn't make it a point, mind you? I was quoting what the commentator's saying.
LASTLY, we were debating on Josh Smith. Why you brought in Moon, then Green? What's the purpose?



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post Feb 24 2008, 05:36 PM


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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Feb 24 2008, 11:32 AM)
cause it was unfair, and to prove that the 5 can be too.

well he doesnt need to touch the rim anymore, he can throw the ball in at the freethrow line.
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If one can throw the ball in fr the FT line (as per my attached pic), at that kind of distance, that kind of angle & that kind of force.

I'll give it to him anyday.

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post Feb 24 2008, 06:45 PM


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When people use the term from the free throw line it means their feet or any part of it is behind the free-throw line.
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not too bad!

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QUOTE(A-Ren @ Feb 24 2008, 06:45 PM)
When people use the term from the free throw line it means their feet or any part of it is behind the free-throw line.
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VERY GOOD.
So that means, Dr J & Michael Jordan never dunk from the FT line. Cos part of their foot was on the line.

Btw, I think that one & only people is you.

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First and foremost, the judges have no say in who's the winner. The audience has the final say. So if they were to vote Howard as the winner, they would have taken the fact that he did not have his hands on the rim in the Superman dunk through the privilege of TV replays. In any case, his other dunks made him deserving of the win, no question.


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QUOTE(A-Ren @ Feb 19 2008, 11:33 AM)
Pratically the NBA is redeeming themselves that last year Howard wasn't given credit for his sticker dunk.
But i like Howard's first dunk and also the palm-to-backboard dunk. 2 good dunks right there.
The Super man dunk? Not so much.
My boy Green shouldn't have done the same two dunks in the second round.

But one thing for sure. The first dunk you attempt has to be super entertaining and good. It gets the fans on your side.
Thats what people came to see,entertainment. Most of the time the guy with the best showmanship wins.
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The fans voted, unless there's a conspiracy against Green, then it's no show. And Green messed up on the WOW factor by not having it in first attempt.

Secondly the definition of a dunk:

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a shot in basketball made by jumping high into the air and throwing the ball down through the basket


Is there anything that mentions 1 or 2 hands holding the rim?


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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Feb 24 2008, 02:46 AM)
see if you dont need to get to the rim, it takes distance away.

i will ask you one question, if next year someone took off from the 3 point, he cant reach the rim. but he throws it in would you give him it? after all he would have a longer distance, which means a harder throw at least.

the 5 didnt complain when they gave nate robinson the win.
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I get where you are coming from but if one were to throw from that far back:

1) You wouldn't be able to notice the difference in height between hand and rim when the ball is thrown in, thus I personally think a 50 is improbable.
2) Dunking emphasizes power. I doubt the ball can be powered into the rim if someone is from the three point line.
3) Dunking involves "throwing" the ball and not 'shooting'. Just in case you thought that someone could do a running jump shot or something of that sorts.

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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Feb 24 2008, 07:49 PM)
I get where you are coming from but if one were to throw from that far back:

1) You wouldn't be able to notice the difference in height between hand and rim when the ball is thrown in, thus I personally think a 50 is improbable.
2) Dunking emphasizes power. I doubt the ball can be powered into the rim if someone is from the three point line.
3) Dunking involves "throwing" the ball and not 'shooting'. Just in case you thought that someone could do a running jump shot or something of that sorts.
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someone understands!

my point is that you dont have to jump far anymore, yes someone can do a running throw shot now as long it satisfies the criteria of throwing the shot in. one doesnt need explosiveness to propel themselves forward like a distance themed dunk, just need a good vert. which is quite common in the nba.

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Time to close thread unless TS have something to add?
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Found this on HOOPSWORLD,
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Dwight: "See, the thing is, for people who never dunked before, you don't have to touch the rim to dunk the ball. People were saying that it wasn't a dunk because I didn't touch the rim - you know, a lot of dunks I do during the season I don't ever touch the rim, it's just the fact that I put it in. And I wanted it to have the effect that it's impossible what I did, so that's why I threw it in like that."

Me: "You probably would've broken your hand if you touched the rim considering how hard you threw it ..."

Dwight: "Yeah, but you see, the thing was, I wanted to throw it in. That way it would have looked a lot more cooler, and people would have been like, there's no way that somebody could possibly do that but Superman."


So that is all.
Please close this thread or move the discussion to the NBA thread ok?!

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post Feb 26 2008, 08:47 PM


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wait, before close, hear out my opinion on this

i think that superman is quite entertaining, i don't think it is worst, since he bring all the audience to their feet. I don't understand why some ppl can't accept that, since the rest of the world decided his are better than others.

btw, so much gimmick between rudy gay and moon on the clips (gay ask for fan's idea via youtube). I think both of them didn't live up to the hype during the competition.
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