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I am still undecided between a G900 smartphone and a C902 cybershot (now using K810i)....

i prefer to have better photo taking quality and if possible some smartphone function too !

(and I am also considering Nokia N82...which is a value buy now...)

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QUOTE(demio121 @ Jul 9 2008, 12:27 AM)
today pondering to get the wireless bluetooth or wired stereo headset.  the default is earpiece is not "stylo" la... HBH-DS980 sell for $152 (offer price).  me staring @ another empty wallet soon.
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It depends on how you will be using it for. If you want convenience just for the sake of communication, then a bluetooth serves the purpose well not to mention the style it provides. If you want good sound quality as well as using the radio function, you'll need a good wired stereo headset. I would choose SE's finest wired earphones costing around RM300 complete with remote commander.
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you try the wireless stereo bluetooth before? how's the quality. I was using W850i and the default earpiece is good enough for me. Radio is not too important to me.

I just don't want to buy a wireless then regret about the sound quality. These wireless thing, most shop don't allow testing, unlike the phone. All wrap in boxes nicely.
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Thank you for ur reply guys.. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif this makes me wanna buy G900 more.. still considering though.. what do u guys think? should i go for G900 or should i wait for C905 tongue.gif thanks again smile.gif
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QUOTE(demio121 @ Jul 9 2008, 09:24 AM)
you try the wireless stereo bluetooth before?  how's the quality.  I was using W850i and the default earpiece is good enough for me.  Radio is not too important to me.

I just don't want to buy a wireless then regret about the sound quality.  These wireless thing, most shop don't allow testing, unlike the phone.  All wrap in boxes nicely.
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Yeah, I tried the bundled HBH-PV708 bluetooth headset. Sound quality is not remarkable. Usable only. I guess you need to buy higher end models to have good voice quality. Even the music playback is worse. No amplification and the playback sound muted. The W850's default earpiece is good because it is a in-ear configuration. But it is too boomy.

You can always try your friend's one before buying. Oooh! I remember, Cliptech (I think this is the name) is popular for bluetooth handsfree but utilizing earpiece. It consist of a bluetooth transceiver main body with the mic integrated. Then it provides a 3.5mm earphone jack for connecting to the earpiece of one that you prefer. That way you can have both wireless freedom and not sacrifice on music quality.

QUOTE(Aishiteru^Suki @ Jul 9 2008, 09:51 AM)
Thank you for ur reply guys..  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif this makes me wanna buy G900 more.. still considering though.. what do u guys think? should i go for G900 or should i wait for C905  tongue.gif thanks again  smile.gif
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If you want good imaging, then G900 is not good enough. It is decent in my opinion. But the color rendering is not accurate enough unless you practice post-processing using PC software. The C905 would be highly anticipated in my opinion.
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Jul 9 2008, 10:28 AM)
If you want good imaging, then G900 is not good enough. It is decent in my opinion. But the color rendering is not accurate enough unless you practice post-processing using PC software. The C905 would be highly anticipated in my opinion.
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Maybe i'll go for this one and then C905 later.. tongue.gif i really desperate to change phone.. sick of K850i already.. one more thing.. is the touch sensitive button oki??? sweat.gif
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if imaging is of prime concern, get a compact camera. I have not try the new C-series phone but at teh time of release even the K8xx series phone quality is acceptable. Its good among camera phone but if you are picky about picture quality, compact camera is still better.
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QUOTE(Aishiteru^Suki @ Jul 9 2008, 10:54 AM)
Maybe i'll go for this one and then C905 later..  tongue.gif i really desperate to change phone.. sick of K850i already.. one more thing.. is the touch sensitive button oki???  sweat.gif
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those are not touch sensitive buttons, unlike the k850i. the g900 has a touch screen. although the screen is rather small for a touch screen, but believe me, it doesnt hinder usability most of the time. although some icons might appear to be small, but trust me, you will have no prob 'touchin' them XD.
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QUOTE(Aishiteru^Suki @ Jul 9 2008, 10:54 AM)
Maybe i'll go for this one and then C905 later..  tongue.gif i really desperate to change phone.. sick of K850i already.. one more thing.. is the touch sensitive button oki???  sweat.gif
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The touch screen sensitivity is good enough. Not too sensitive and still responsive. I like screen very much. It is a transflective display so legibility in the sun is still good without loosing too much color contrast. If you diligently study the screen surface, you'll see that it has an angled ribs all over it. That is to protect the screen. As a result, the screen is not like those PDA phones soft type. Its hard and feels like glass.

As a result, it'll respond to touches from the stylus, finger nails and fingers.
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any way to modify G900's menu icon?

i'd tried the method in P1i's thread. Cudnt work...



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a c2pid Q to ask here.

the G900 runs on Symbian 9.1 with UIQ 3.0. when i search for application, do i search for Symbian 9.1 or UIQ 3.0 apps?
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so this phone support wifi B + G or only wifi B?
if it's only wifi B then isn't it same with p1i??

anyone know what starbucks or tmnet hotspot is using? B or G?
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i thinking to switch over to GM900.....currently having a k800i....how is the picture quality over k800i ? very much improved ?
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QUOTE(demio121 @ Jul 10 2008, 12:42 PM)
a c2pid Q to ask here.

the G900 runs on Symbian 9.1 with UIQ 3.0.  when i search for application, do i search for Symbian 9.1 or UIQ 3.0 apps?
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Well actually the G900's OS is based on Symbian 9.1. However, that is just the kernel and the interface however is UIQ3.0. So when looking for applications and games, you should look for UIQ3.0 compatible apps.
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Got myself the HBH-DS220 bluetooth headset. Sounds is OK to me. I'll probably upgrade the earpiece to something better later. Should have got the 200 model as it comes with earplug (220 come with in-ear) since i am gonna upgarde the earpiece anyway. Pairing is simple. I just pair once, the rest i just swithc on and auto pairing. I wish there is more remote function. it only have play and stop function on the blurtooth. I wanted 980 model but 980 do not have 3.5mm jack, so i am stuck with the default earpiece.

install the trial version of handy expense too. so far its good. help me keep track of my expenses while i m away at a foreign land. Its a simple one to use. I might buy the full version soon. i think its $11 if i purchase online in the next 3 days.

I have been using S ans SE phone for the last 7-8 years (my last 4 phone are S or SE) and this G900 need some getting used to. Some function either they are missing or i have yet to find it. Like profile... i am still looking for it. Th touchscreen thing is not exactly touchscreen as i would put it, especially scrolling. For instance, i kept a pdf copy of the train system but it's won't scroll with touchscreen... well, u can touch the scroll bar to scroll... which i thought its not so convenient as the scroll bar is not that big for my fingers. Also when you reach some menu and you see a scroll bar, well, take the stylus out then... The media player is cool, almost (i have not really 100% tried all function yet) touch-able. scrolling the different music files, picture or video, work with the finger well. The media interface is pretty cool, not like those other menu.

2 major grouse i have is the software and also respond time. The SE software since my W850i have given me the same old problem. I start the software and plug in my phone, sometime the software just don't see my phone. i gotta unplug then plug in again. at time gotta do this a few time. demn... can't the improve this??? also the procedure can be headache... especially the update service. when doin the update, at time i don't know if things are still working or i am waiting for durian runtuh... and not to mention the "press C button, pull the battery out... blah blah blah... steps". My old Philips MP3 player have an easier update procedures.

ah... respond time. when i got this G900 i am expecting some wait time. At time its fast. i touch menu come up. sometime, i scroll the panel, its like things hang. i just leave my phone idle for a while and in a while (i don't go counting the second...) its OK. a little annoying but so far the machine have not totally hang on me that i nedd a hard reset.

The shortcut... it more like a macro to auto the menu. example... you select create sms... you can see on the screen, the whole process of going to the message menu, select create sms. and when you close, you see the same thing again in recerse order. not an issue but something i think can be imrpoved <- is this a Symbian or UIQ issue???

overall, i am OK with the G900. Lite PDA user who need a phone first then a PDA later will probably find this one fitting.

Now i got a question to ask... is the a Microsoft Outlook Today alike screen? i wanna see what is my task, appoitnment when i active the phone.

Next, i'll try watching movie and see what's the experience like.

BTW, anyone have used 4GB memory. The shop i bought told me i might encounter problem if i max the memory.
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So far my one has been running on the new sandisk m2 4GB, nope not a problem at all. Smooth operation

The sales person did advise me if i go beyong that like 8GB, the problem is only might be slower in response time cause of the huge amount of data in the memory card trying to be read by the phone software.

But i think when 16GB becomes a norm for phones, a software update might just do the trick in the near future.

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QUOTE(youngkies @ Feb 11 2008, 07:03 AM)
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no wonder sounds so familiar, samsung g600i.
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That guy must be having a tiny hand. The Phone is not that big actually...
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QUOTE(quiksilve @ Jul 11 2008, 10:47 AM)
So far my one has been running on the new sandisk m2 4GB, nope not a problem at all. Smooth operation

The sales person did advise me if i go beyong that like 8GB, the problem is only might be slower in response time cause of the huge amount of data in the memory card trying to be read by the phone software.

But i think when 16GB becomes a norm for phones, a software update might just do the trick in the near future.
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8GB...!!! i thought the spec says max is 4GB only?
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QUOTE(quiksilve @ Jul 11 2008, 10:47 AM)
So far my one has been running on the new sandisk m2 4GB, nope not a problem at all. Smooth operation

The sales person did advise me if i go beyong that like 8GB, the problem is only might be slower in response time cause of the huge amount of data in the memory card trying to be read by the phone software.

But i think when 16GB becomes a norm for phones, a software update might just do the trick in the near future.
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Actually the capacity problem does not result in the phone becoming unresponsive. You may have an 8GB memory card but if you're not filling it up yet or nowhere near the limit there is no such thing as a huge amount of data in memory. After all these are flash memory which is persistent. No power is required to hold them and you don't move and shift these data the entire 8GB block at the same time. Chances are you access the data the same you would do for any other smaller capacity cards.

The problem comes from the resources required for the huge amount of addressing in a high capacity card. Depending on the hardware platform, it may not be game enough to handle such requirements. Especially those 16bit processors that is inefficient and require multiple clock cycles to complete one instruction. This is where the slowing down will happen.

New phones or technically newer platforms with new MCUs should have solved this problem. Look at iphone 8GB, 16GB and even 32GB. Look at Touch Diamond and Omnia. Although these are built in, they are basically the equivalent of flash memory ICs.

Just want to get this problem cleared.

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QUOTE(davidmak @ Jul 11 2008, 02:11 PM)
Actually the capacity problem does not result in the phone becoming unresponsive. You may have an 8GB memory card but if you're not filling it up yet or nowhere near the limit there is no such thing as a huge amount of data in memory. After all these are flash memory which is persistent. No power is required to hold them and you don't move and shift these data the entire 8GB block at the same time. Chances are you access the data the same you would do for any other smaller capacity cards.

The problem comes from the resources required for the huge amount of addressing in a high capacity card. Depending on the hardware platform, it may not be game enough to handle such requirements. Especially those 16bit processors that is inefficient and require multiple clock cycles to complete one instruction. This is where the slowing down will happen.

New phones or technically newer platforms with new MCUs should have solved this problem. Look at iphone 8GB, 16GB and even 32GB. Look at Touch Diamond and Omnia. Although these are built in, they are basically the equivalent of flash memory ICs.

Just want to get this problem cleared.
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true... back in those 386 and 486 days... windows and office can run on like 64MB RAM. these days 2GB juz sufficient to run the OS alone. With faster processing power, programs get fancier and the vicious cycles start. I remember my family first ever mobile phone... the Motorola taikor tai 8000 series phone. man... there is not even memory to store phone number. I remember the shop telling my brother to get the Sony model, can store 3 phone number...!!! THREE...!!! How things change.
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