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QUOTE(azarimy @ Nov 12 2009, 08:18 PM)
first of all, what do u mean by excellent spatial ability skill?

secondly, most 1st year architecture will concentrate on ur communication skills, this includes both verbal, visual and writing skills. even if u dont have any basics in arts, u will be taught and trained with enough ability to perform in the upper years. but remember, just being able to perform is never enough, because u're competing with those who already have some basics, and some who're already stellar in arts.

that aside, u shouldnt worry too much about it. almost 60% of architecture students in malaysia started off without any formal training in arts.
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Spatial ability refers to skill in perceiving the visual world, transforming and modifying initial perceptions, and mentally recreating spatial aspects of one's visual experience without the relevant stimuli.

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Spatial visualization ability or Visual-spatial ability is the ability to mentally manipulate 2-dimensional and 3-dimensional figures.

Anyways, thx for the advice! What about the job prospects in malaysia?
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QUOTE(tanalvis @ Nov 12 2009, 05:23 PM)
1) Is the industrial training provided by these colleges important? The industrial training is helpful in future after graduate?

2) Anyone know about contractor? How to become contractor? just curious..

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QUOTE(waterdrops18 @ Nov 12 2009, 12:30 PM)
Spatial ability refers to skill in perceiving the visual world, transforming and modifying initial perceptions, and mentally recreating spatial aspects of one's visual experience without the relevant stimuli.

or

Spatial visualization ability or Visual-spatial ability is the ability to mentally manipulate 2-dimensional and 3-dimensional figures.

Anyways, thx for the advice! What about the job prospects in malaysia?
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interesting. which by your definition would also mean the ability to visually memorize ur surroundings and regurgitate it at will.

whatever it is, it's an ability that needed to be verified. one can claim he is good at memorizing facts, and scored A in his SPM to prove it. but spatial abilities? well, we're gonna have to see it for ourselves wink.gif.

anyways, do apply. lets put those excellent skills to good use.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Nov 12 2009, 09:49 PM)
interesting. which by your definition would also mean the ability to visually memorize ur surroundings and regurgitate it at will.

whatever it is, it's an ability that needed to be verified. one can claim he is good at memorizing facts, and scored A in his SPM to prove it. but spatial abilities? well, we're gonna have to see it for ourselves wink.gif.

anyways, do apply. lets put those excellent skills to good use.
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Hahaha.. Thx.. I'll see how it turn out. laugh.gif


Added on November 13, 2009, 12:01 pmBtw, if I want to go for STPM next year, which stream should I apply to if I want to study architecture? Science or art? Which will have a higher chance to get selected for IPTA?

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QUOTE(waterdrops18 @ Nov 12 2009, 10:27 PM)
Hahaha.. Thx.. I'll see how it turn out. laugh.gif


Added on November 13, 2009, 12:01 pmBtw, if I want to go for STPM next year, which stream should I apply to if I want to study architecture? Science or art? Which will have a higher chance to get selected for IPTA?
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Just go for whichever stream you think you can do better in. It's the grades that matter in competing for a place in one of the IPTA's. For UM/UTM architecture degree, the requirements are ridiculously high. I understand you need to get a string of A's to get into architecture course for a non-bumi.

Certain architecture schools overseas do require you to take some science/maths subjects.

Did you copy those definitions about 'spatial ability' from somewhere?

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QUOTE(tehtmc @ Nov 13 2009, 04:27 PM)
Just go  for whichever stream you think you can do better  in. It's the grades that matter in competing for a place in one of the IPTA's.  For UM/UTM architecture degree, the requirements are ridiculously high.  I understand you need to get a string of A's to get into architecture course for a non-bumi.

Certain architecture schools overseas do require you to take some science/maths subjects.

Did you copy those definitions about 'spatial ability'  from somewhere?
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Yea, it's form Wiki. Tried to get the best definition as possible to explain what is it.

Btw, has anyone heard that UTAR is offering Bachelor of Science (Hons) Architecture in the KL campus?
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UTAR at KL is offering Bachelor of Science (Hons)


http://www.utar.edu.my/contentPage1.jsp?co...tid=928&catid=2
Go to this page to find out the courses offered at UTAR and find number 33
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QUOTE(tanalvis @ Nov 13 2009, 10:03 PM)
UTAR at KL is offering Bachelor of Science (Hons)
http://www.utar.edu.my/contentPage1.jsp?co...tid=928&catid=2
Go to this page to find out the courses offered at UTAR and find number 33
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But is it accredited by LAM?

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QUOTE(tehtmc @ Nov 13 2009, 05:27 PM)
Just go  for whichever stream you think you can do better  in. It's the grades that matter in competing for a place in one of the IPTA's.  For UM/UTM architecture degree, the requirements are ridiculously high.  I understand you need to get a string of A's to get into architecture course for a non-bumi.

Certain architecture schools overseas do require you to take some science/maths subjects.

Did you copy those definitions about 'spatial ability'  from somewhere?
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tat means if my bio is better then physics, while physics offcourse is not bad too but feel like bio is easier....so which 1 should be selected? in form 6, the physics classes and biology classes
if choose the bio, the chances of getting the Arch. course in UM/UTM or be decreases? or it is just the same with the physics classes?

can understand? cos my eng are too bad...

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But is it accredited by LAM?
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no.

QUOTE(YO® @ Nov 13 2009, 03:09 PM)
tat means if my bio is better then physics, while physics offcourse is not bad too but feel like bio is easier....so which 1 should be selected? in form 6, the physics classes and biology classes
if choose the bio, the chances of getting the Arch. course in UM/UTM or be decreases? or it is just the same with the physics classes?

can understand? cos my eng are too bad...

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for UTM, it's an open intake, meaning even if u major in agama Islam/tassawuf/hafiz, u could still apply without any reasonable decrease in chances. UTM conducts its own interviews and have full authority to select their candidates as they so wished. however, UM intake is almost totally governed by the ministry. so it's best for u to score physics, maths and add maths to stand a chance for UM.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Nov 13 2009, 11:53 PM)
however, UM intake is almost totally governed by the ministry. so it's best for u to score physics, maths and add maths to stand a chance for UM.
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Aren't there definite guideslines as to the subject combination required for entry into the architecture course in UM or others (USM, UPM, UKM, UIA, etc)?

What are the grades like for the recent batches of non-bumi students who have gained entry into UTM and UM?

Students who do not have a good foundation in maths and science would have problem in certain subjects in certain architectural course like structures and environmental science, depending on how much emphasis the uni places on the sciences.

Almost all of the architects I know are from the science background. But, you do have to be an all rounder to be a good architect - you have to be good at drawing, documentation - making the design work i.e. the practical aspects, communication, management, people skills. You have to be an artist, salesperson, a realist (design must be practical and practicable), a manager (to manage and lead a project) all rolled into one. This may sound daunting, but in real life, very, very few people possess all those qualities.

The top architects are invariably good salespeople and artists. You can have all the great ideas but they are worthless if you can't sell them or can't persuade people to buy them or nobody notices them.

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QUOTE(tehtmc @ Nov 14 2009, 03:01 AM)
Aren't there definite guideslines as to the subject combination required for entry into the architecture course in UM or others (USM, UPM, UKM, UIA, etc)?

What are the grades like for the recent batches of non-bumi students who have gained entry into UTM?

Students who do not have a good foundation in maths and science would have problem in certain subjects in certain architectural course like structures and environmental science, depending on how much emphasis the uni places on the sciences.
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yup, there are. but guidelines state the minimum requirement as well as possible combination of subjects. maths, physics and addmaths are the sure fire way to get into UM, because the people who select the candidates for UM (ie - the ministry) assumes that architecture would emphasis on all of those. which also means that anybody who excels in arts but lacks those 3 subjects might have their work cut out for them. but this is ONLY for UM. other universities conduct their own intake selections.

i have not been in UTM for 4 years now. i dont have the numbers.

regarding maths and science, yes, a good foundation in those are needed. but it's not something that u cant learn/catch-up if u dont have any basics in it. i've seen the structural engineering exam for the dual course, it's quite complex, but nothing an average student cant handle.
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I'm currently Sem 1 student studying Arch Degree in Taylors'. So far, my initial expectations of maths and physics in this course has been down to zilch.

However, the same cannot be said for the coming semesters, when modules such as Building Construction roll in.

Cheers!

Anyway, being a student at TCPJ, I have first hand "ground" experience from this course in this campus. For those who are interested to know about Taylors Architecture, fire your questions away! I'll try my best to answer.


Added on November 22, 2009, 10:42 pm
QUOTE(azarimy @ Nov 4 2009, 11:24 AM)
+ i'm afraid i cannot answer which is the best school. it's all down to you.

+ it's good that u love drawings. it needs that extra motivation, loving to draw is a good step ahead. u can improve as it goes along.

+ yes, it's a tough course like u wont believe.
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Yes, but much of that toughness becomes bearable (or to some extent, appreciable) if you enjoy the process wink.gif

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