interior design is relatively easier than architecture, simply bcoz the scope is smaller. but the rigor and stress is essentially the same.

Hi I m a newbie here too. I got some questions to ask. I just finished my A-level course. My results is not good at all.
1) Does quantity survey course also known as construction management course? Are they the same?
2) Which Unis is oferring the QS course? As far as i know taylors TARC offers QS degree course. inti offers QS diploma ( wonder do they offer degree course)
3) With my bad result, what are the options for me? I have asked taylor. They say I need to do the foundation in QS for only half year (Actual is 1 year) then proceed to 3.5 years degree course but i intend to skip the foundation and goes to degree, can any college offers that?


PLease Help help me!!! Your help is very much appreciated.

This post has been edited by tanalvis: Nov 6 2009, 07:04 PM

1. no. quantity surveyors in a nutshell is the accountants of the built environment, while construction managers are technically the building contractors (not buruh kasar, mind u, but the managers ).

2. there's a QS thread somewhere here. they've got a full list of schools offering QS at all levels.

3. how bad is ur result, really?

D for maths and physics and E for chemistry in A level..... i m so dead( need to do the half year foundation in taylor). i am kind of interested in inti and taylor but not utar and imperia for QS

if i study at taylors it will take 4 years. i m not sure about inti. need to call them and see.

This post has been edited by tanalvis: Nov 7 2009, 04:58 PM

Hey there,

QS here!
Don't worry too much. Hehe. If you really2 wanna do QS, then I advice you to just do t foundation thingy.
And F.Y.I, if you have a diploma in QS, you can cont ur studies by doing ur degree in either quantity surveying, construction management, building management or construction science course. Pls do visit this site www.bqsm.gov.my

UTAR and Taylors are the only LOCAL (Private) unis I know that are accredited by BQSM.

And btw, qs can bcum construction managers or... contractors (Correct me if I'm wrong yea guys) but ONLY if you are qualified with exp and knowledge.

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# Project Manager - Typically holds a 2-year or greater higher education qualification, but are often also qualified in another field such as quantity surveying or civil engineering.
# Quantity Surveyor - Typically holds a masters degree in quantity surveying. Chartered status is gained from the Royal Institute of Chartered Surveyors.

Good luck dude!

P/S: Architect still gets the highest rank in professional fees list. Hehe.

This post has been edited by xcullen: Nov 7 2009, 09:53 PM

Anybody know an available 3d-printing place for models and the details?

xcullen how long have you work as QS? your salary now is around how much, ? i know fresh graduate QS is around RM 2-2.5k for degree.

This post has been edited by youcantkillbee: Nov 9 2009, 09:45 PM

tanalvis... hi hi
not tellin' my dear.
But anyway, you're right. Fresh degree holder can get around 2-2K. Depends on luck! some can be less.
So, what's your decision?

This post has been edited by xcullen: Nov 9 2009, 09:55 PM

i guess i m going for taylor's QS programme, even though i dun want to do the stupid half year programme... stupid half year foundation programme... planning to credit transfer to aussie uni in 3-4th year. but i better save up some money first....need to work in aussie i guess

I know of many people who started off with the KTAR diploma and continued to do the QS degree in UK (mostly in Scotland) for a couple more years. This should be a more economical option than going through Taylors. Taylors' programme is very new, yet to be proven though their architecture course has been going on for a few years. The KTAR diploma graduate can also find employment quite easily in the job market.

With the strong Aussie dollar and high tuition fees, studying in Aussie is no longer cheaper than studying in UK these days. I'd say UK is a better place to do QSing.

Huhu.
So you're planning to go to Taylors then? I think should be okay, since the diploma + degree there are accredited by BQSM.
And yes, after you fin your foundation + diploma, you can automatically (I think) transfer credit to Oz uni. RMIT or UniMelb. It's your choice
I'm planning to work in Oz btw. How old are you?

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Added on November 10, 2009, 12:21 pm

Hey there,

I'v got few friends, graduated from KTAR. Very economical indeed.
Basically, they did their foundation + advance diploma (3 years, I think), then go to John Moores Uni, for 3 months only.
Meaning to say, they only did their degree for 3 months.
Hence, the degree isn't / can't be accredited by BQSM (min. 2 years degree). But hey, I'm not saying the degree is bad or whatt. In the end, its up to you. It's all about working exp and performance. On how/whether productive/efficient/etc you are. But my advice is.. if you really2 wanna be the professional QS and IF you wanna set up your own company, then my good advice for you, my dear, is go for the accredited degree. Enabled you to get the Sr. (Surveyor) title, or else.. you have to take and sit like 10papers (says my boss..)



This post has been edited by xcullen: Nov 10 2009, 12:29 PM

I was talking about those who did a normal (not advanced diploma/degree) diploma or certificate course in KTAR and continue for two years in UK to do the degree. Rather than to spend full 4 years overseas to do the degree which the course can be prohibitive.

Yes, I have also heard of other KTAR/UTAR grads who do a 3-month course in UK (Sheffield Hallam is another) and came back with another degree. I'm not surprised at all that such degrees are not accredited.

I agree that QSing is a good alternative if you want to go into building line other than architecture. While the course is not as demanding as architecture, it can be very routine dealing with figures, quantities, estimating, measurement all the time.

I am 19 years old this year. I hope to see xcullen in Aussie next time.I guess I am gonna graduate as a QS at around 24-25 years old (seems a bit too old).

By the way, Taylor's University College don't offer diploma course anymore. They offer only foundation of built environment and QS degree (can be done fully at local for 3. 5 years, Taylor's University College can earns more money)....


In the third year or fourth year of my study, I hope I can apply credit transfer through Taylor's University College to study at overseas uni (which means I finish my degree course at overseas uni). Which country will depend on the currency in the future. Tehtmc is right for the current situation. UK may seems nice but in 2-3 years time UK currency will or may increases.I think tehmtc might have forget that i will be studying at overseas in the next 3-4 years time not now. So in the future, i might post up here again to ask study in UK or Aussie better, .

TARC is offering 2 kind of QS course- Advanced Diploma in Quantity Surveying, Diploma in technology (Quantity surveying). Now I got more questions. From TARC, they said "The Advanced Diploma in Quantity Surveying is equivalent to a Bachelor Degree." Apparently TARC website dun give much info about the course.

This question I will leave to azarimy and others. I think azarimy will know the difference. Bachelor of Quantity Surveying (Hons) from Taylor's University College and Advanced Diploma in Quantity Surveying from TARC. Are they on same standard?


How long is the Diploma in technology (Quantity surveying) course from TARC? How long is the Advanced Diploma in Quantity Surveying course from TARC?


This post has been edited by tanalvis: Nov 10 2009, 07:35 PM

Exactly dude
Understood understood.
Are you a qs too?

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Added on November 10, 2009, 7:52 pm

Dear Tanalvis,
Hehe! Hope to see you there
Well, a colleague of mine, graduated from Liverpool John Moores Uni (LJMU). She did her degree for 3 months there. She holds 1 foundation cert, and advanced dip. in quantity surveying. If I'm not mistaken. The advanced dip is 3 years. Yeah, its equivalent to degree. But do you want a degree or advanced diploma ? Ehehe! As far as I know, diploma is owes 3 years dude. (Can jump to 2nd year, transfer credit if u wanna pursue your degree)
Oya, check these colleges :- they do offer dips too. Some requirements might be differ.

1) Kolej Universiti INTI, Nilai
Diploma in Quantity Surveying (13/12/2007 - 12/12/2012)

2) Institut Eksekutif, Kuching
Diploma in Quantity Surveying

3) Kolej INTI, Sarawak
Diploma in Quantity Surveying

4) Kolej Bersatu Sarawak (UCS)
Diploma in Quantity Surveying


TARC + Taylors are in diff standard I guess. If I were you, I will definitely choose Taylors (cos their degree/dip is accredited by BQSM) but since they didn't offer Diploma anymore, then might as well just continue at Tarc then do your degree in Oz, Curtin. My boss is from Tarc (dip) and Curtin Aus (Degree).
Btw, TARC is more cheaper than Taylors. So, betta choose wisely yea. Muacks muacks


Hope Azarimy can add more

This post has been edited by xcullen: Nov 10 2009, 07:58 PM

Hmm QS degree course normally takes how many year? So after i finish my diploma then i transfer credit to 2nd year of degree, total how many years? I just called INTI. Their diploma course is 2 years and 4 months. If i finish my course at INTI then i can skip 1 year for the degree course in Oz Uni( means i only study at OZ for only 1 year)? so total is only 3year and 4 months?

Dear Xcullen,
thanks for the kiss.. muacks muacks to u too.

This post has been edited by tanalvis: Nov 11 2009, 05:00 PM

Owhhh! you are so cute! Hehe!

Go for INTI then! Fair and reasonable tuition fees!
Yeap, you can skip 1-2years degree. (Credit transfer, depends on what subjects you've taken).
And overseas QS dgree takes about 4 years max. With credit transfer (As I mentioned), you can skip to 2nd year.
So which means, 2 years for degree.
Total = Diploma (2 years 4months) + Degree (2 years) = 4 years 4months.
Hopefully my info is correct. Hehe.

1) Is the industrial training provided by these colleges important? The industrial training is helpful in future after graduate?

2) Anyone know about contractor? How to become contractor? just curious..

Dear xcullen,
You don't have to remind me that I am cute since everyone says that . Hahaha, just joking. xcullen i left u a pm or message. Go check your inbox. Hehe

Hey, just wanna ask something. I don't know whether I'll do well in architecture in the future if I choose this course. But all I know is that I excel in Mathematics (SPM) especially in those topics that are important in architecture. Plus I have excellent spatial ability skill. I'm fine with Physics. But I have zero knowledge in Arts.

Any advice?

This post has been edited by waterdrops18: Nov 12 2009, 08:01 PM

first of all, what do u mean by excellent spatial ability skill?

secondly, most 1st year architecture will concentrate on ur communication skills, this includes both verbal, visual and writing skills. even if u dont have any basics in arts, u will be taught and trained with enough ability to perform in the upper years. but remember, just being able to perform is never enough, because u're competing with those who already have some basics, and some who're already stellar in arts.

that aside, u shouldnt worry too much about it. almost 60% of architecture students in malaysia started off without any formal training in arts.