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Guys, wif the Celeron dual-core coming into market, i guess it's time for a "budget" corner of Intel Dual-Core overclocking. Whereby you can get processor + motherboard combo of around RM350-400 and still get 66-75% overclock over stock, for almost close to free! biggrin.gif

This thread is solely for Celeron(Conroe-L), Celeron or Pentium Dual-Core and Intel 945GC chipset motherboard users, using on-board graphics, the budget crowd. laugh.gif

Let's start with myself, i've used both the E2140 and E2160 in an ASrock Conroe1333-D667 R1.0 motherboard(based on the 945GC chipset i mentioned). On the E2140, i manage to crank up a 75% overclock, jacking up the FSB from 200MHz to 350MHz before i can't go any higher, might be the Vcore as i've tried plugging in a PCI-E graphics card(so that it reduces the chance of the IGP holding back), using an IDE HDD(due to PCI lock) and am still stuck. On the E2160, it's a 66% overclock from 200MHz to 334MHz FSB.

So who else running these cheapo combos? Maybe we can start a new trend of budget Intel dual-core overclocking.

I'm in the process of updating the motherboards available locally below then RM200 price bracket and runs the Intel chipset, will update more on this first post when i get more info. Would be glad to do a review on any of the 945GC based boards if anyone is nice enough to loan me a unit other than the ASrock Conroe1333 variant.
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Bumping this thread.

Setup a cheapo Asrock Conroe1333 D667 with E2160 BSELled, running 2.7ghz. I would say, this would be the best combo <RM400 . However, it's limited to the capability of your CPU @ stock vcore, as there's no option to adjust vcore @ bios. Either that, you would need a pin volt mod.

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Yay! Finally a reply laugh.gif

Hoping more would be joining the "cheap ass C2D" gang. <RM400 for CPU + Motherboard combo no longer just applies to AMD tongue.gif

Yeah... for these cheap mobo and CPU setup, BSEL(a must) and VID(in case your chip needs more vcore) is a must as can only adjust FSB and Ram Timings.

The VDIMM mod is pretty simple as long as you've got a multi-meter.
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Pairing an E2160 with Asrock 945GC-DDR667.
Running stable at 2.7ghz. smile.gif

BSEL mod was an hassle.
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Can get 3Ghz stable? Try using aftermarket cooler or just suicide oc and get screenshot.
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Mar 17 2008, 12:49 AM)
Can get 3Ghz stable? Try using aftermarket cooler or just suicide oc and get screenshot.
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It depend on the CPU itself.
Not all CPU can do 3ghz at stock vcore.

This board has no vcore adjustment. Its nothing to do with temperature (aftermarket cooler)
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waaaa.....dual core can get till 2.7....very nice:)
last time i try e4500@2.2 with mobo 945chipset only can push till 2.4,then sanko n irenic tolld me to change mobo if i want to get better oc.hehe
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QUOTE(tnhafiz @ Mar 17 2008, 08:42 PM)
waaaa.....dual core can get till 2.7....very nice:)
last time i try e4500@2.2 with mobo 945chipset only can push till 2.4,then sanko n irenic tolld me to change mobo if i want to get better oc.hehe
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It just because u did not try the BSEL mod.
If not you should be able to go further. smile.gif
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No even a little vcore change on this mobo? Hope the bsel mod can increase the chances.
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what is bsel?smile.gif
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Mar 18 2008, 12:19 PM)
No even a little vcore change on this mobo? Hope the bsel mod can increase the chances.
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Not even a little unless u looking for vcore mod.
If an E2160 can do 3ghz at stock vcore on this board, it will be super good bargain isn't it?
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QUOTE(tnhafiz @ Mar 18 2008, 12:24 PM)
what is bsel?smile.gif
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A mod to processor pin so can fool the mobo to think this is a higher FSB processor
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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Mar 18 2008, 10:18 PM)
A mod to processor pin so can fool the mobo to think this is a higher FSB processor
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lol... laugh.gif sumthing like PS2 mod chip rite??? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Mar 17 2008, 12:49 AM)
Can get 3Ghz stable? Try using aftermarket cooler or just suicide oc and get screenshot.
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Depends on your chip, i had 3 E2160 hit 3GHz(333MHz FSB) stable with stock cooler and also Xigmatek HDT=S963 smile.gif

QUOTE(tnhafiz @ Mar 17 2008, 08:42 PM)
waaaa.....dual core can get till 2.7....very nice:)
last time i try e4500@2.2 with mobo 945chipset only can push till 2.4,then sanko n irenic tolld me to change mobo if i want to get better oc.hehe
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It's because when you use a 200MHz FSB processor, the PCI-E would go way overclocked even at 266MHz FSB, when you do a BSEL(for 200MHz --> 266MHz FSB) mod to fool the motherboard that the processor is in fact a 266MHz FSB unit, the PCI-E will reset back to 100MHz at 266MHz FSB, the reason this particular chipset couldn't overclock high was due to a non-functional PCI-E lock

QUOTE(§layerXT @ Mar 18 2008, 12:19 PM)
No even a little vcore change on this mobo? Hope the bsel mod can increase the chances.
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There's no vcore change on the ASrock Conroe1333-D667, but there's VDIMM(there's already vmod around) and also V-chipset options available in the BIOS via 3 settings.
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why e2160 got 2 version ? one is with lower heatsink one,and one is normal jus like other intel proc,
which one is better ?



and which 945gc board is the best ?

there are few choices:

msi
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gigabyte
ecs

which one is more overclockable? i have tried the asus and msi,they only manage to go 2GHZ with e2160,the ecs cant overclock,

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QUOTE(xk2 @ Mar 22 2008, 04:00 PM)
why e2160 got 2 version ? one is with lower heatsink one,and one is normal jus like other intel proc,
which one is better ?
and which 945gc board is the best ?

there are few choices:

msi               
abit
asus           
gigabyte
ecs               

which one is more overclockable? i have tried the asus and msi,they only manage to go 2GHZ with e2160,the ecs cant overclock,

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Old processor tend to oc better.Haven't try 945GC board before so no comment
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i have notice tat all e2160 with the date 2008 are in the lower heatsink,and those 2007 still the normal one,if both run at stock speed,which will better ?
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QUOTE(xk2 @ Mar 22 2008, 08:20 PM)
i have notice tat all e2160 with the date 2008 are in the lower heatsink,and those 2007 still the normal one,if both run at stock speed,which will better ?
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the bigger the heatsink, better heat dissipation it is. assume both heatsinks built in the same material.

size of heatsink determine the temperature of the processor, overclockability? no but technique/skill YES !


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hmm interesting, sorry kucing i am in this thread just for one comment tongue.gif size of the heatsink does determine how much temperature can be dissipated, also the built of it. Thus if the temperature is controlled to a certain extent, your ability to Overclock is therefore higher. Thus disregarding the proc built and stepping in nature, if the variables were to only be temps and overclockability, i believe size does matter. Basic laws of heat eh>? technique and skill does help in reducing and making use with what you have to gain high speeds.
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 23 2008, 10:42 AM)
hmm interesting, sorry kucing i am in this thread just for one comment tongue.gif size of the heatsink does determine how much temperature can be dissipated, also the built of it. Thus if the temperature is controlled to a certain extent, your ability to Overclock is therefore higher. Thus disregarding the proc built and stepping in nature, if the variables were to only be temps and overclockability, i believe size does matter. Basic laws of heat eh>? technique and skill does help in reducing and making use with what you have to gain high speeds.
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if u back to the Q asked by xk2, which E2160 version is more overclockable.
Certainly it not determine by the size the heatsink.

It is not a must to use stock heatsink to overclock. Thus it never a benchmark to show how overclockable is that particular processor is.
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