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post Dec 18 2007, 01:09 AM, updated 18y ago

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Warning: Imitation copies of Focal speakers are being sold over the internet and in some discount stores in Australia. Some look convincingly like the real thing, and the vendors vow and promise that these are genuine Focal speakers which come from the Focal factory. Do not buy Focal products on the internet. For example, the 165V1 currently advertised in Hong Kong on eBay for about $100 are definitely fakes. We have tested and photographed a set, and we will post the photos and information on this site in the next few days.

Even if you find a genuine set somewhere you will have no warranty because warranty does not apply to speakers trans-shipped between countries. Australian dealers are listed on the Focal Dealers page. They have been trained to provide advice and installation skills to support our products. Buy genuine, buy from an Australian dealer and get what you pay for.

Below is a gallery of images comparing genuine and imitation speakers

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post Dec 18 2007, 01:10 AM

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post Dec 18 2007, 01:11 AM

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post Dec 18 2007, 01:13 AM

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SOURCE : http://www.focalaustralia.com.au/

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post Dec 18 2007, 02:45 AM

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the tweeters .. omg .. bad quality for fake wan
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post Dec 18 2007, 07:45 AM

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i can only able to see almost 95% close to be original look out. This imitations way too smart till hard to detect whether is it original or fake.
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post Dec 18 2007, 11:37 AM

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Nice info there. nod.gif
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post Dec 18 2007, 12:32 PM

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very interesting that those fakes can be made pretty close to the genuine doh.gif

kudos to MIC (Made in china)
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post Dec 18 2007, 12:55 PM

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Here is the Dynaudio System 240 MKII imitation information

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post Dec 18 2007, 05:17 PM

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This thread should be pinned.
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post Dec 18 2007, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(loon1031 @ Dec 18 2007, 12:55 PM)
Here is the Dynaudio System 240 MKII imitation information

Tweeter

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post Dec 18 2007, 11:24 PM

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really good info man ... THUMBS UP !
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post Dec 18 2007, 11:28 PM

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almost same =.="

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post Dec 18 2007, 11:39 PM

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post Dec 19 2007, 01:14 AM

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Sometimes its hard to differentiate the fake & real unless u spend a good amt of time observing the both. Otherwise get from authorize dealers! If the price is too good to be true, it normally is. And u pay peanuts u get monkeys.
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post Dec 19 2007, 10:54 AM

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Isn't fake or original?

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post Dec 19 2007, 11:04 AM

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brother, i think its a fake one..

chk the box design and compared to the original one.

The "focal" logo in original box is in solid white color, the logo in the later box u posted is design with a "gradient" effect.

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post Dec 21 2007, 02:39 PM

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DLS A Series Amp....

It is easy to see the big differences between original and copy if you look inside
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RCA inputs w/o color rings
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post Jan 14 2008, 08:04 PM

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Although it is a fake one, but how's the quality?
If the quality is not tat bad, still worth buying right?
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post Jan 15 2008, 03:33 AM

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QUOTE(ayumi_alive @ Jan 14 2008, 08:04 PM)
Although it is a fake one, but how's the quality?
If the quality is not tat bad, still worth buying right?
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you wanna pay RM1000 for a so called 'branded' fake amp where a RM300 amp can do the job?

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Fake one wont cost you 1000 la.........I am not supporting fake one, but really hard to determind which one is ori which one is fake...............out there in other ICE forum, ebay or lelong.........they all claim that are selling ori set with cheap whole sales price la.......bla bla bla.............can't trust them..........even in ICE shop also selling Pio***r but fake one.........JL A***o, SoundS****m, MBQu**t, Infinit*, all are china make but 99% alike......................sian........
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post Jan 15 2008, 10:24 AM

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u sure fake 1 wun cost over 1k?
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post Jan 15 2008, 10:26 AM

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ya, go check from lelong.........quite cheap
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post Jan 15 2008, 10:51 AM

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Not only lelong but LYN forum also got ppl selling cheap. Especially the woofer. Hertz 12" RM360...possible?
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post Jan 15 2008, 12:33 PM

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lol... macam ori saje... it really takes a master to differentiate. for me.. i sure kena conned... thankgod i am not into ICE that much... muahahhahahah
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Recently i wanted to upgrade my car's ICE and just bought a set of component speakers from lelong. Haven't receive them yet. But only now i realize there're so many fake speakers selling around Malaysia. So sad. sad.gif

After doing some googling, i found these websites:

http://www.dlsaustralia.com.au/english/fak...fake_copies.htm
(Take note it says that: "These fake copies are mainly distributed in countries like Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, Thailand, South Korea, China, Hong.Kong, Japan, Taiwan R.O.C. and The Philippines." They put Malaysia on top of the list!)

http://www.made-in-china.com/china-product...ct-catalog.html
(So many branded speakers are imitated from China and from the same company)

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/ice...mohawk-etc.html

Anyway, i'm very sure my speakers will be fake also. sad.gif
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post Jan 20 2008, 07:25 PM

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fake and ori almost the same= =...
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post Jan 22 2008, 08:04 PM

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current famous fake speakers and tweeters are PIONEER.

I believe Soundstream subwoofer cost only rm 350 for 12". Cause previously i was selling it at that price while auto shop selling around rm 7xx (mark up price)
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but how's the quality? If the quality is reasonable, is it worth giving a try, especially ppl like me with low budget..............
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Fake MTX vs Ori. MTX Sub

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post Apr 22 2008, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(zamzam @ Apr 22 2008, 11:17 AM)
Fake MTX vs Ori. MTX Sub

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Its not really an imitation because they call it MiX instead of MTX (because of the dots) laugh.gif . Just the logo looks almost the same. doh.gif

One time an acc shop see my MTX 6x3, they say its fake and theirs is ori. Look at their speaker, OMG its MiX. Maybe they also being conned by supplier laugh.gif
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post Apr 22 2008, 06:42 PM

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good info, thx for sharing. Thumbs up.
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post Apr 23 2008, 09:52 AM

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Fake Dynaudio MKII selling RM13xx at <no spam links>

Who said don't cost over 1k?
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post Apr 23 2008, 10:37 AM

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Dyns also got fake...mine to share pic here like MTX & MIX......
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Apr 22 2008, 03:06 PM)
Its not really an imitation because they call it MiX instead of MTX (because of the dots)  laugh.gif . Just the logo looks almost the same.  doh.gif 

One time an acc shop see my MTX 6x3, they say its fake and theirs is ori. Look at their speaker, OMG its MiX. Maybe they also being conned by supplier  laugh.gif
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it's just exactly the same logo man.. just wif a red dot ma.. laugh.gif
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Haiz... Just go to trusted or good reputation authorize shop purchase la. See the authorize warranty sticker. This is the noob way to determine. rclxms.gif
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post Apr 28 2008, 11:54 PM

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errrrhh guys, focal 165 v2 polyglass from our automotive garage boleh pakai ar ? real or fake ar ?

hahaha unbelievable price ler !!
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post Apr 29 2008, 09:53 AM

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I don't mean to spoil their sale by any means. But just by looking at the price and amount of stocks they have, you should know.

Not only the focals, but also the Soundstream, RF, and many other brands in the automotive garage.

Go to Authorized Dealer, not some Ah Seng shop. Even shops sells this similar products. You must know where you go. Do surveys on the net. A lot of infos about identifying authenticity of the products.

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post Apr 29 2008, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(nicotine @ Apr 28 2008, 11:54 PM)
errrrhh guys, focal 165 v2 polyglass from our automotive garage boleh pakai ar ? real or fake ar ?

hahaha unbelievable price ler !!
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unbelievable price...u get unbelievable product as well rclxms.gif

anyway here is the link to compare a real Dynaudio 240 MKII

http://www.mobileaudiosolutions.com.au/fakes.htm

but sometimes the real original one might be slightly different than the one on the pictures as well.

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laugh.gif wokay boss,

i did some search but cant seems to find out who's the authorized dealer for focal stuff.. hmmm mind to share some info ?

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post Apr 30 2008, 09:44 AM

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sometimes i rather settle for not so famous brand, others like pioneer, soundstream, even focal is full of imitation doh.gif
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any way to check for Phoenix Gold? whether it is fake or orig?


Added on May 19, 2008, 6:47 pmanyone?

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QUOTE(nicotine @ Apr 29 2008, 12:54 AM)
errrrhh guys, focal 165 v2 polyglass from our automotive garage boleh pakai ar ? real or fake ar ?

hahaha unbelievable price ler !!
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ive no idea bout the prc..view it 1st b4 buying..

QUOTE(TheTraffic @ May 3 2008, 11:11 AM)
any way to check for Phoenix Gold? whether it is fake or orig?


Added on May 19, 2008, 6:47 pmanyone?
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normal name usualy ori..
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Any infos on MB Quart speakers??i would like to know the fake and the genuine speakers pls provide if u all have the infos...thanks nod.gif
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Any infos on MB Quart speakers??i would like to know the fake and the genuine speakers pls provide if u all have the infos...thanks nod.gif
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Hey, who know where to buy fake speakers in KL? Like senhesier yamaha and so on.
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QUOTE(lisheng @ Oct 28 2011, 04:25 PM)
Hey, who know where to buy fake speakers in KL? Like senhesier yamaha and so on.
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And why would you wanna do tat?
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this should be pinned! yawn.gif useful info bro.

 

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