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post Aug 8 2007, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(azbro @ Aug 8 2007, 06:30 PM)
I copy and paste this from TV3 News Sec.

Harga Alat Pengesan Murah
(Selasa, August 7, 2007 - Buletin Utama TV3)

Semalam Bletin Utama membongkar modus operandi licik pencuri komputer riba di sekitar ibu kota.

Antara puncanya alat pengesan itu banyak dijual secara terbuka dengan harga serendah 49 ringgit.

Dan penguatkuasaan yang longgar beri laluan kepada peniaga menjual peralatan  yang dilarang kerana imbasan mampu mencecah sehingga tiga kilometer.

Visual ini dirakamkan sekitar Jalan Pasar dan Pudu Kuala Lumpur.

Tinjauan rambang kami bagaimanapun menemukan sesuatu yang mengejutkan.

Tiga kedai menjual pelbagai jenis alat pengesan dan alat gantinya serta pengimbas.

Alat pengesan yang dijual bukan sekadar mampu mengesan sebuah komputer tetapi dengan frekuensi  50 megaherz hingga 6 gigaherz ia mampu membuka kata laluan.

Dan alat itu boleh berfungsi dari jarak 1.5 hingga 3 kilometer.

Pengguna telefon bimbit dengan kemudahan  bluetooth pula perlu berwaspada kerana alat yang digunakan itu membolehkan penggunanya mencuri dengar perbualan.

Termasuk kemudahan yang dilengkapi wi fi.

Tetapi ada cara menghindarinya.

Saya nasihatkan tindan barang tu dengan satu keping tudung periuk ke taruk dalam periuk ke. Itu standard dengan itu maka gelombang itu akan pecah boleh read tapi tak tau ape jenis barang.

Beliau turut mencadangkan kawasan tempat letak kereta dilengkapi alat mematikan sistem pengesan.

Kita nama safe park tapi bila guna jammer tapi tak leh pakai hand phone sebab dia lock frekuensi kalo tv3 ambil dan kereta elektronik tak leh start tapi benda ni bukan satu masalah dia ada range frekuensi bila tau range modul apa digunakan so kita jurus kepada frekuensi tu jer. Barang dia pun seiring dengan pembangunan sains dan teknologi, mereka kini lebih bijak mengatur modus operandi melakukan jenayah. Walau apapun cubaan mereka, langkah berjaga-jaga dan keselamatan adalah relevan bagi menangkis segala kemungkinan.
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r u sure tis from tv3 news section?seems like rojak words to me.
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post Aug 9 2007, 12:31 AM
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is this one of the culprit

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post Aug 9 2007, 04:20 AM
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So they open ur boot? That sucks.
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post Aug 9 2007, 05:50 AM
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just remove the battery.. it's not only to detect laptop.. ppl use this device to detect phone too.. so.. if u wanna keep ur laptop in the car.. just carry the battery in ur pocket.. haaha
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if in this case, laptop put at home also possible kena stolen? doh.gif

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Aiyo, if they break into your house, the take not just your laptop lor
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I always keep my laptop without the battery in the car boot...
Always be aware if anyone is watching you while you put in the car boot.
If possible put in thru the foldable back seat...ie. dun open the boot so huge anyone can see what you are doing.
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post Aug 9 2007, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE(ahma068 @ Aug 8 2007, 04:09 PM)
Hmmmmm, lappies detector.

Ok, here how it works (experts please correct if wrong  blush.gif  icon_question.gif )

When cable guy want (espeially Telekom guys or other contractor who install network/tele cable) to trace cable and to know where the cable goes, they have this special too called the Cable Tracer.

http://www.valuetesters.com/Tempo-620K-Ton...d-Probe-Kit.php

Now, this baby, have 2 pieces, one tracer and the other I call it a homing device.
Basically, the tracer detect the plumbum located inside the homing device.

Same as we can detect plumbum in lappies battery.

I think.....

Please correct if wrong aa.
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Just wanna add something...if the detector detects lead, all car batteries have lead....so might not be the reason....

Whenever im in KL, i always try to get valet parking bcoz at least someone is watching my car...
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QUOTE(jeremy0 @ Aug 9 2007, 05:28 PM)
Just wanna add something...if the detector detects lead, all car batteries have lead....so might not be the reason....

Whenever im in KL, i always try to get valet parking bcoz at least someone is watching my car...
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i always put my lappy at car... sad.gif
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i still dun believe this. as an electronic engineer, i know that it is possible to 'scan' the frequencies. last time college time we did have such a scanner. it costs 50k! the scanner is a spectrum analyser, and is used to 'see' what wave is emitting surrounding us.

anyhow, it wont be able to detect any signal if the laptop is not switched on to emit 2.4ghz. sommore most laptops have hardware switch to turn off power to the wireless card.

the tv3 news page looks written in childish language so i would doubt its authenticity. http://www.tv3.com.my/content-news.asp?id=12228

furthermore, if the laptop really emit a wave, the car boot metal shud be able to shield it.

the statement that it is able to detect lead is even more.....
- laptop batery is NOT made of lead. they think the laptop battery is car battery meh.. car battery is created with lead-acid.

bluetooth, wifi, microwave oven and several more electronic devices all exist in the 2.4ghz domain. and its impossible to distinguish between them using a simple device as rm50

Alat pengesan yang dijual bukan sekadar mampu mengesan sebuah komputer tetapi dengan frekuensi 50 megaherz hingga 6 gigaherz ia mampu membuka kata laluan.
- this is true.. as it scans the frequency, it will open most of the car alarm and open the door. but its not targeted, and shud trigger the whole parking lot's car and making the siren sound.
- NO it does not decrypt ur password.

Pengguna telefon bimbit dengan kemudahan bluetooth pula perlu berwaspada kerana alat yang digunakan itu membolehkan penggunanya mencuri dengar perbualan.
- ho ho ho..

Saya nasihatkan tindan barang tu dengan satu keping tudung periuk ke taruk dalam periuk ke. Itu standard dengan itu maka gelombang itu akan pecah boleh read tapi tak tau ape jenis barang.
- sounds like april fool... or the fellas father is making periuk as business.
- or its just a social research project to see how widely this hting spread.
- if this can work... all the fighter jet/kapal selam will look like periuk liao...

the 'scanners' are actually inductive loop sensors, and is widely used in the industry to 'detect' metal embedded in plastic/wall etc. you can buy one at ace hardware stores. thus it can detect nails, wires, anything that got metal content.

now the truth is....
the modus operandi works on sharp eyes.
they have people scanning the parking with their eyes.. looking for victims who open their car boot and put something in, then leave for the shopping mall. there must be something valuable there!

so.. my advice,
1. before u reach the destination, put the laptop under ur seat, better is the back seat, and push the seat backwards to cover. maybe cover up using some plush toys tongue.gif
2. never use a laptop bag. use a normal bag with internal cushion. using a laptop bag is telling the world u have soemthing valuable.. come rob me.
3. if u have to put ur laptop in the locker, put it in the bag before going into the gym locker. then no one can guess whats inside. use ur own lock!

finally.. even pikom's also did made an announcement about this, and tell the world it is not true....
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wow very well writen response, Ij0000. I'm studying Electrical Engineering as well and whatever Ij0000 wrote about shielding of electromagnetic and electric fields are true. It is near to impossible to detect our laptop's emitted signal when it has already been shielded by the car's body. The distortion due to the car's body will most likely be high enough to not reveal things that are behind it.
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if really want to shield....
just wrap it in aluminum foil, or the anti-static plastic bag.. or even better...
get v-cool to tint ur laptop!!

cool right?

Added on August 10, 2007, 12:24 amthe vcool so keng till gps signal and smarttag signal also cannot pass thru...

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So ur saying if put in the boot, this shit is only myth. If they can open the car already, why don't just take the car? Next time I put bomb in my laptop so when they steal it, it will be like, laptop will self-destruct in 1 second. Boom ! Eat that.

Added on August 10, 2007, 12:33 amsomeone corrected me with smart tag, I wrote as smarttag. Yeah seems im thinking like an electrical engineer yo..

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smart Tag is IR based..

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I see. Is this have been like major case in Malaysia or what? I think it's good they go public so those thief at least have to think twice before they do anything. What I'll do I put some clone laptop (anything that can be detect and they thought it's a laptop) then I'll act like im going shoppin'. I'll hide somewhere they can't see. When they come and open my boot, I'll rush and push them into the boot and voila ! Bring to police station and 4-5 times per day plus some help from any volunteers (guys ?!) then these thieves will extinct from the world (or Malaysia).

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I just saw yesterday (9/08/07) again they showed the article and they also said that this was getting lots of attention everywhere. But the news was at 1:30pm this time.

They showed the device...I think there were 3 models. One was like a pen somemore...the others looks like a walkie talkie.
All are made in China stuff.

I waited for the night news but didn't mention it.
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QUOTE(jeremy0 @ Aug 9 2007, 05:28 PM)
Just wanna add something...if the detector detects lead, all car batteries have lead....so might not be the reason....

Whenever im in KL, i always try to get valet parking bcoz at least someone is watching my car...
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Sometimes the valets could be in with the laptop hijackers... hehehehe
Trust no one. I'm quite sure the valets are not responsible is stuff are stolen, right ?
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wat r we gonna do now....?
r new lappy in future gonna hav anti-detection devices?
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