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i m in dilemma of wich set 2 choose...between AP T610 n T-Choice T610...AP cost oni RM 750 but T-Choice RM 1100...anybody got xperience wit T610 AP set??so far got problem or not??hope somebody can share n gv some guidlines 2 me smile.gif
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original nokia AP phone got Nokia hologram sticker? how if there is no hologram sticker on the phone?
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Where is both Final Choice and Nefion located as i'm interested to get a new phone. smile.gif
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I get all my phones from nefion, their office is opposite maybank in taman maluri.
But some other shops oso sell phones from them.
So far not even got one problem with my phones, maybe i used them carefully, not so rough like many ppl. ie, if u use your phone to throw at a dog, no matter where u get ur phones from still spoil lar.
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post Jun 2 2004, 07:01 AM
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How to identify whether a samsung phone is FMG set? Through stickers on the handphone? Or through the FMG warranty card?

Cos yesterday i went to ask price for A800 and S500, the salesperson told me it's RM600 and RM820 respectively. And it thought the price was a leeeetle too low, so worried whether it was AP.
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post Jun 3 2004, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE (jasonlim @ May 29 2004, 12:15 PM)
i m in dilemma of wich set 2 choose...between AP T610 n T-Choice T610...AP cost oni RM 750 but T-Choice RM 1100...anybody got xperience wit T610 AP set??so far got problem or not??hope somebody can share n gv some guidlines 2 me smile.gif

If u wanna further upgrade firmware, take T-Choice mobile as they provide free firmware upgrade. If ure on the budget side, take AP set also no problem. As u intend to use for normal usage and no intention of upgrading is worth the buy.
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post Jul 13 2004, 10:36 PM
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the way to check imei for SE is same with nokia?
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QUOTE(Kayne @ Jul 13 2004, 10:36 PM)
the way to check imei for SE is same with nokia?

yes. it's the same way. press *#06# to check IMEI
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Want to ask a stupid question, all AP sets (esp SE) have those big ugly T-Mobile or Vodafone or whatever logo on the phone?
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I see some shops take 2nd and sell it new under AP and giv 1 year warantty. Is true AP accesories are not original and housing is not really fit.
If consider getting original parts like battery and head phone, why not choos original one instead of AP. Since the original parts also much expensive than the AP set one. Some can send to service centre to repair.
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post Jul 25 2004, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE (chewkl @ Jul 16 2004, 07:52 PM)
Want to ask a stupid question, all AP sets (esp SE) have those big ugly T-Mobile or Vodafone or whatever logo on the phone?

is your question suppose to be "does all AP set have that logo?"

well if thats your question, than not really...though if you have an AP set with that logo, it might make your fone look cooler, but on the other hand, cud mean that your fone might be locked...those t-mobile and vodafone are just the service operators in the UK and theres where the fones come from....another thing is...not all AP sets have the logo...AP sets just means Approved Products which means that these products are certified by sirim that your product is safe to use...

in other words, AP product just means products that is not brought in by the authorised distributor like Midland, T-Choice for SE, Avaxx or Zitron for Nokia, FMG for samsung and etc. the fones can even come from Singapore and may even have the M1, Singtel or Starhub logo...so its not necessary that all AP sets will have a logo...some may have some dont...if they have, remember to check the fone if it is locked esspecially those from singapore and vodafone.

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may to july..wow..so long lerrrr! hehehe :>

neway just to add on..

AP sets has different level of QC. (big ap fellas like F.Choice/GTMAX/Nefion/Telstra/OConnors) have extensive QC checks.

Others like MSL/YS/PLANTRONICS or names not mentioned above, are slightly cheaper than the above....whether they replaced their parts with other stuff..its another question.

U dont see much different in nokias BUT for samsung it is .. 6 months diffference in warranty...imagine lcd damage after 1 year (for AP) ..



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QUOTE (jimmylim85 @ May 17 2004, 09:46 PM)
what kind of specific tax is not toll?? can list a few?

Where does this AP set originate from?? CHina?

FYI,
Nokia original handset are made in China. coz Nokia factory in China supply the Nokia mobile phones for Asia Regions.
AP set or Water set maybe manufactured in Finland coz normally they r imported or smuggled from europe. Nokia Factory in Finland supply Nokia Mobile phones for Europe Regions.

AP set they actually pay government tax but is juz that they are not taxed by the Local Authorised Dealer. AP set is normally distributed by small handphones companies and they can "chap lap" easily as i know.. but not all lah.. futhermore if a major damage on ur AP set the AP companies might not have enuf equiptment to fix it.. at the end they still have to send it to the authorised dealer for e.g Zitron, Avaxx.
There are recon set might be known as AP set so beware while buying AP set.
Recon mean second hand handphones from overseas, they juz change the phone cover(might not be original cover)and do some servicing inside and sell it as an AP set with warranty 1 year summore.

As I know FMG will not fix phones other than FMG warranty handset(even they r paid they will not fix)

These are what I know.. correct me if I am wrong notworthy.gif
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QUOTE (Shezzar @ Jul 25 2004, 11:11 AM)
is your question suppose to be "does all AP set have that logo?"

well if thats your question, than not really...though if you have an AP set with that logo, it might make your fone look cooler, but on the other hand, cud mean that your fone might be locked...those t-mobile and vodafone are just the service operators in the UK and theres where the fones come from....another thing is...not all AP sets have the logo...AP sets just means Approved Products which means that these products are certified by sirim that your product is safe to use...

in other words, AP product just means products that is not brought in by the authorised distributor like Midland, T-Choice for SE, Avaxx or Zitron for Nokia, FMG for samsung and etc. the fones can even come from Singapore and may even have the M1, Singtel or Starhub logo...so its not necessary that all AP sets will have a logo...some may have some dont...if they have, remember to check the fone if it is locked esspecially those from singapore and vodafone.

how to unlock them??
flash them????

now i using t630...firmware R4D001.... the thing is my phone no chinese...
if possible i flash to other firmware ..to get chinese language?
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Hopefully all you specialist can help me out.
I recently bot a P900 and notice a sticker on the phone "Grandtech". Are this sets from Grandtech AP set? After using using for about 3 days the display just died. The shop which sold the phone said yes this is an original phone and not AP set and insisted that I could go to Ericserve to get is warranty repaired.

Thanks in advance guys!!
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hmm..grandtech? never heard of it b4...
i suspect ap set... where did u buy the set from?
check it out wif SE... i think u got conned..
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QUOTE (cyclone9 @ Jul 26 2004, 07:06 PM)
how to unlock them??
flash them????

now i using t630...firmware R4D001.... the thing is my phone no chinese...
if possible i flash to other firmware ..to get chinese language?

how to unlock? those hp experts know how to..
pay them wif an amount of fee... then u'll get ur phone unlocked...
yeah..they'll flash ur phone wif some device thingy...

well..dat i'm not too sure... try askin those hp sellers... no harm asking.. =)
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Already check with SE apparently Grandtech is a new distributor for SE. sigh!!!
Got my P900 repaired they said the PCB got fried. Well I still think they should change the sets instead of just replacing the PCB.
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QUOTE (buggy70 @ Jul 30 2004, 04:56 PM)
Already check with SE apparently Grandtech is a new distributor for SE. sigh!!!
Got my P900 repaired they said the PCB got fried. Well I still think they should change the sets instead of just replacing the PCB.

oh..then my mistake... notworthy.gif
grandtech...hmm...
PCB? what's PCB?
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PCB (Printed Circuit Boards) They change some board in the phone, don't know ezactly which one, but they say is for the LCD display.


Further checking Grandtech is a Singaporean company....hmm no wander the sets have also a sticker "aprov for use in Singapore"
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