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eeynhoj
post Jun 20 2007, 11:28 PM


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hi, anyone taking one of these two courses?
may i know how is the career prospect for these two course graduates? icon_question.gif

looks like both courses dun hv bright future in malaysia sad.gif
feel free to giv advice.. pls pm me if u are taking one of these courses.
TQ very much..

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post Jun 21 2007, 12:44 AM


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Go for Biomedic. I think it has a gr8 future. And what's more in NUS!
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post Jun 21 2007, 10:25 AM


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U got NUS offer for biomedical academic year 2007/2008?
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post Jun 21 2007, 10:38 AM


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sorry.. i forgot to state that i asked on behalf of my sis..
she got offer in science but she wan to take biomedic after that.
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post Jun 21 2007, 01:38 PM


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u shuld ask ur sister to take biomedic..tis is good subject for girls since it involve lots of reading..(i dislike reading)
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post Jun 21 2007, 02:48 PM


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the most important is the job prospect for her.
both courses are her interest also. smile.gif
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post Jun 21 2007, 02:49 PM


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go for biomedic.
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post Jun 21 2007, 03:01 PM


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You mean your sister got Science in NUS.
As far as I'm concern, NUS intakes quite a lot of applicants for Science, roughly 1000 each year. After completing your first year, you can choose to major in certain subjects in second year. Since there are so many people fighting for it, from what I heard, it's quite competitive to get in to popular subjects.
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post Jun 21 2007, 11:40 PM


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QUOTE(LeoDaVinci @ Jun 21 2007, 03:01 PM)
You mean your sister got Science in NUS.
As far as I'm concern, NUS intakes quite a lot of applicants for Science, roughly 1000 each year. After completing your first year, you can choose to major in certain subjects in second year. Since there are so many people fighting for it, from what I heard, it's quite competitive to get in to popular subjects.
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thanks for advice..

anyoen from audiology in local uni? pls give ur views..thanks a lot.. notworthy.gif
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post Jun 22 2007, 02:43 AM


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QUOTE(eeynhoj @ Jun 21 2007, 11:40 PM)
thanks for advice..

anyoen from audiology in local uni? pls give ur views..thanks a lot.. notworthy.gif
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audiologist is minority speciality in malaysia, every yr only produce limited graduates....all hired n taken up even b4 grad. some audiologist even being treated like a doctor as they see patient (with audio problem).

i grad from UKM biomed, u donwanto hav a degree where u throw a stone in the street oso can hit a biomed grad.

biomed will give u more prospects or in other words : chap palang career path.
u can do pharma sales, medical underwriter, continue master as researcher or lecturer , MLT .....

audiologist can only do audiologist or audio equipment sales...

ask ur sis justify wat she wants to do....audio will hav some busy clinical yrs....go NUS oso not sure u can get biomed after 1st yr...

if u really wanto know more about audiology, PM me i intro u to my fren.

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post May 9 2008, 04:25 PM


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Ok... I'm doing Biomedical Science in UKM while my former roommate is Speech Science who are in the same department with Audiology. First years Audio and Speech have nearly same subjects, anyway.

I don't mind if you are doing Audiology, I mean, there's only handful of audiologist in Malaysia as in speech therapist. And you will be in more demand if you did masters. But, Audio is more trouble than biomeds.

In term of studying; Biomedical textbooks are the same as medical books (Except we took histology seriously than they do..) and Audiology and Speech had to have their own books, which usually they refer to dentist-books since they are more concern in anat and physio of the head than the rest of the body and doesn't emphasize much on the systemic parts. But you need to learn physics if you want to venture in audio, and you will learn stuff for electronics too.

Sometimes, their books on their subject (like audio) are so rare that they have to buy them a year in advance from Australia for their courses in the next sem. More money wasted on this anyway.

And of course, the lecturers... I mean, not that I know of them (Im biomed anyway) but sometimes the lecturers doesn't gave out a direct objective and there's many loopholes than even the students doesn't even know WHAT to study. This is what they told me, some of the thing that come out during exam, was the ones that the lecturers DOESNT TEACH!! Don't start on the stories.... there's a lot and people let the matter easy. But usually the admin let student off with pass marks when this happens.

In case of career, its alright to think in advance but then, biomedicine grads flock the job markets like flies. I'm sad that the companies take university where their study as a first impression. like overseas vs local and after that... UKM vs USM vs UPM vs UM vs KUTPM vs swasta... I mean, there's lots of politics plus in every courses, they pick around a hundred student per university. In every year there's around a few hundred grads and there's always a few thousand older grads who want newer jobs.

Can you compete that? Thats why they said biomeds have a larger opportunities, its because of this influx of grads and the preferences of universities. (The world is cruel)

Audiology took only 30 students. And there's a few university that offer it. (I don't know about audio but in speech science, there's only TWO university that gave of speech grads, UKM and USM and the market held an open arm for them anyway)

Both courses have pros and cons.

But UKM biomedicine is easier to handle compared to audio. Plus you need to get active so that you could stay in Kolej Tun Syed Nasir since the department is within the kolej and the placements depends on meritocracy. (You need to get atleast 300 for the first year if you want to compete with the rest) Once you became active, you will sacrifice your study, one program took your days and night for weeks. This is my experience anyway.

My course's department is in the Faculty which is located in Jalan Raja Muda and for my second year, I will stay in an apartment nearby. The KTSN is lot farther (My exercise routine is basically walking for 30min from my dorm to my classes) and all audiology and speech class is in KTSN.




There's nothing easy in this world.... anyway

I recommend audiology if you wanted jobs.. but I wont recommend UKM... Its not recommendable to be slack and be proud just because you got ukm since seriously, its hard and you will be wanting to sell your soul by this.


Plus, all health courses are in KL and NOT in Bangi. Being in KL is enough a burden anyway.
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post Jun 5 2009, 10:30 PM


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By now your sister would have decided. Can you share what she decided on?

Don't go for audiology. The prospects are limited since you only can do one thing - be an audiologist. So if you don't know or have no interest, don't join audiology.

I know a good friend from UKM audiology 1st batch. He loved the course so much and learnt so much and was always talking about how big an impact an audiologist can make in a child's life and also the life changing decisions he gets to help people make when it comes to hearing problems.

Sad to hear the course have lecturers that just pass students anyway. He told me his lecturers were all from overseas since he was in the first batch and there were not many lecturers locally. They also have a state of the art facility. Equipment alone already a few million.

But anyway, audiology is something that requires patience and passion because it's new in Malaysia. It's not for people looking for a job. It's for people looking for a career
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i suggest biomedic,,,
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QUOTE(satu @ Jun 5 2009, 10:30 PM)
By now your sister would have decided. Can you share what she decided on?

Don't go for audiology. The prospects are limited since you only can do one thing - be an audiologist. So if you don't know or have no interest, don't join audiology.

I know a good friend from UKM audiology 1st batch. He loved the course so much and learnt so much and was always talking about how big an impact an audiologist can make in a child's life and also the life changing decisions he gets to help people make when it comes to hearing problems.

Sad to hear the course have lecturers that just pass students anyway. He told me his lecturers were all from overseas since he was in the first batch and there were not many lecturers locally. They also have a state of the art facility. Equipment alone already a few million.

But anyway, audiology is something that requires patience and passion because it's new in Malaysia. It's not for people looking for a job. It's for people looking for a career
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Are you talking about Jen Sen : )

Audiology is infact for people lookign for both job and career. Plenty of opportunities. My company already has 3 Audiologists (including myself). However, we still need another Audiologist and it's difficult to find one...easily grabbed by private hospitals and Singapore : )
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QUOTE(eeynhoj @ Jun 20 2007, 11:28 PM)
hi, anyone taking one of these two courses?
may i know how is the career prospect for these two course graduates? icon_question.gif

looks like both courses dun hv bright future in malaysia sad.gif
feel free to giv advice.. pls pm me if u are taking one of these courses.
TQ very much..
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Audiologists are not very common in Malaysia, they will tend to work in Govt. Service (in Hospitals)... between the two... I will recommend Audiology program instead of Biomedical program. Biomedical science program and their graduates are just too many already.

Audiology degree program, on the other hand, is only offered by IPTA at the moment here in Malaysia.

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Most people in this forum have NEVER seen for themselves how audiologist function in a hospital ENT department and tend to recommend Biomedical program.

ENT specialists require Audiologist in the Hospital - they (audiologists) are the ones involved in diagnosing hearing problems (eg; conductive hearing lost or sensorineural hearing lost - what degree of hearing lost patient have?) and they are also the ones who provide external hearing aids, teach patients on their usage, provide therapy for deaf children, development of speech, etc etc etc....

ENT specialists don't usually do all that...


So... having seen how audiologist work in the ENT department.... between BIOMEDICAL SCIENCE PROGRAM and AUDIOLOGY PROGRAM - I recommend AUDIOLOGY PROGRAM (it confers you with the Audiologist profession)



*- debate can go on about the above two programs - but all of you need to know - I AM a biomedical science graduate~

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I m audiologist leh, but end up sell games tongue.gif
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QUOTE(heavyarm @ Feb 11 2012, 11:15 PM)
I m audiologist leh, but end up sell games tongue.gif
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Why...? are you from UKM?
Were you not able to secure employment in Govt. service? what about private health sector?

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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Feb 11 2012, 11:19 PM)
Why...? are you from UKM?
Were you not able to secure employment in Govt. service? what about private health sector?
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Yeah, grad frm ukm kl biggrin.gif nice n strict training

Work in hospital is ok, stabil and can see many patient everyday. Just not the type of job i like lor wub.gif and in hospital, Dr always is the king o. Other rehab specialist wan to fight to same status need alot of effort and understanding of ur upper management and department, such as how many support they can gv to ur audiology part, especially budget and audiologist "power"

Prefer sales and marketing tat can run around. Tats is fews growing hearing aids company local, such like best hearing and oticonm thumbup.gif

Replied to TS, audiologist is better prospect thumbup.gif trust me

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QUOTE(SoonHeng @ March 6, 06:21 PM)
Dear CyberSetan,

I would like to offer you a audiologist position in my company. Please do contact me if you or your friend interested in this position.

Thank You,
Koh Soon Heng
Chief Operation Officer | Malaysia
The Hearing Solution Company Sdn Bhd
76 Jalan Tun Sambanthan, Brickfields
50470 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Tel: (+603) 2260 3887/ 3885 / 3884
Fax: (+603) 2260 5233
Email: soonheng@thehearingsolutionco.com.my
Website: www.discoverbetterhearing.com
Anyway... I've received the above message, from the user above. Any Audiologist reading this - can try and apply for the job.
By the way, I'm not an audiologist~ he must have mistaken me for one.

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QUOTE(heavyarm @ Feb 11 2012, 11:43 PM)
Yeah, grad frm ukm kl  biggrin.gif nice n strict training

Work in hospital is ok, stabil and can see many patient everyday. Just not the type of job i like lor  wub.gif  and in hospital, Dr always is the king o. Other rehab specialist wan to fight to same status need alot of effort and understanding of ur upper management and department, such as how many support they can gv to ur audiology part, especially budget and audiologist "power"

Prefer sales and marketing tat can run around. Tats is fews growing hearing aids company local, such like best hearing and oticonm thumbup.gif

Replied to TS, audiologist is better prospect  thumbup.gif  trust me
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hi there. Im a stpm graduated and i'm planning to apply audiology in UKM. so can u briefly explain what's the course mainly about & how's the job opportunities in msia? how is the basic salary for fresh graduate?? I hv no idea bout all of this cause there's kinda less information bout this course.. sad.gif your help is much aprreciated laugh.gif
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