u are not intto OCing..takes CM or Acbel (true power at least 450W) if hardcore OCing...got Silverstone,OCZ, Enermax or u can refer to this topic

true2, even my chapalang PSU still survive with my OCed pentium 4 until I exchanged it with acbel PSU, worry that it will blown up and bring along other components.

-adios-

hi guys. i want to buy a new gaming rig. Budget RM 5000. I don't have any idea what to buy as i am so confuse right now.pLEASE HELP ME. Thanks.

Shall I contribute?

OK.

Let see. How do we determine what to buy, for what purpose, at what budget suits our pocket?

Here say.

There are six main components that make a PC, well a PC.

1) Motherboard
2) CPU (microprocessor) and its heat spreader - fan and heatsink
3) RAM (memory modules)
4) Graphics card or built-in video adapter
5) Power Supply unit
6) A chassis/casing

What to concern about buying a PC components? Well, the purpose of building/buying one and your budget are the first two concerns.

How do we determine what best for us, in purpose and budget sense? The first step is to understand, what's best for your usage and budget. Next, you need to understand some bullshit and jargons involved in buying PC components.

Do not be intimidated of what your friends' have. Their budgets and requirements are not the same as yours. Just dump the things they say about OC (overclocking) ability and stuffs. You just need a PC that works for you.

OK, what else, go read or ask people who know better about PC hardware, but do your own reading too, to avoid boasted/biased statements from the one you are asking stuff for.

This post has been edited by dopodplaya: Jun 14 2007, 04:29 PM

fren. you POSTED here, and the guide is already in Post #1. didn't the guide even give you a bit of idea what to get yet?

Hi there! Thanks for the guide. Its SO useful. But i notice there's nothing about cooling.

I've got some bad experience with computers sometime hanging, crashing, blue screen of death.... Most of the time, the service guy just say overheat lar. So how can i prevent this? I certainly don't want to spend a bomb on water cooling or coolant. I mean, its a computer, not a car.

Someone mention that having adequate power supply will reduce heat. Is this true? Or he just trying to cheat me into buying more stuff i dont need.

Glad to hear that.



what OS were you using then? ever since i got to WinXP, i've not been facing it unless i tweak around. hang and crash may happen some times, due or not due to hardware depends on what's the conflict.

if you refer to my guide, i did not recommend any third party cooling. why? because processors that are in the guide are very cooling for usage. so you wouldn't have to worry about the cooling for the processor, just choose a casing that allows decent airflow.



false. just take a look at the threads around this forum. when people recommend a better PSU, it's because it reduces the risk of electrical mishaps happening to your machine while maintaining a more steady / stable flow of power - NO cooling.

Mr goldfries just giving out the basic idea in setting up a whole PC within budgets. For basic and normal usage, I think there's no problem from the guide. Other than that, maybe you need to find your own

Mr goldfries, I like the way you recommend ppl

haha, i'm waiting for your guides for laptops..

this one's a little harder.

there's so many laptops available, and so many configurations. i can't recommend any configuration setup but i could do a guide i suppose.

will take a bit of research as well....



my policy is simple
amount $ spend vs amount performance gained.

IF ever i want to show off, i'd rather be the person who boasts that i spend minimal to get A LOT out of it instead of being the person who boasts of deep pockets.

yeah those rigs are for normal usage and if you look at the specs, almost all over them can be used for overclocking too! (yeah, i do consider those who intend to try out OCing).

goldfries will do la, no need Mr like i oldman or uncle.

Mr is a sound of respect

Anyway, yes basic setup that can OC as well, especially for beginners who's still learning

erm... because better PSU have higher efficiency, thus the higher percentage of power will be used to power the PC, comparing with lower efficiency of PSU, some may go hotter because of more energy wasted in the form of heat.

dattebayo, you're talk about power efficiency but from what AdrianA posted - it looks like that someone wasn't talking about what you are talking about.

here's his phrase.



note the word adequate, when i see that word in there, i'm under the impression that he's saying the guy is telling him to get PSU of higher wattage so it'll be adequate. and furthmore, the word reduce - which is different from "generating lesser heat".

if the word was efficienct then it's a different story altogether, it'll be like what you said. and that also we didn't even touch on efficiency vs temperature gain yet.

if the guy said a better PSU has additional fans that could aid in air-circulation then it's fine as well.

PC BUYING GUIDE UPDATED!!!

* Added more details / explanation about the guide.
* Interface change : Streamlined for less confusing display of contents.
* Interface change : Toggle view for easy comparison.
* New banner and various images.
* Specifications change : Processor changes on most of the specifications to bring better value.
* Specifications change : more RAM on some specifications due to price drop.
* Specifications change : ATi Radeon X1950 Pro instead of nVidia GeForce 7900GS.
* Specifications change : ATi Radeon HD 2900XT instead of nVidia GeForce 8800GTS(640MB).
* Specifications change : ABIT IB9 instead of BIOSTAR 6100-AM2.
* Specifications change : RM 2,000 rig is now RM 2,250 rig as a halfway point between RM 1,500 and RM 3,000 rig.
* Added the For your consideration part in comments to highlight what are the other possible components to take consideration.

goldfries thx for the sharing... the information is very clear and reader friendly...

this really save me lots of time thinking what I suppose to do and what I need to include...

Btw does all shops provide the same price?

i believe the prices stated at goldfries guide is the roughly taken as moderate price..u could plus minus with it..

and usually different shops come with different prices

Yup, normal price around most PC shops should be around that figure.

p/s: I'm linking your buying guide in my college forum, hope you don't mind. <-- bgtau lepas kantoi

too late!!!!

if you notice in your college forum, i've already posted there. you see what time was the post.

That's why I said, I let you know after 'kantoi'

Will follow if there's any update as well