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> [Reference] PC Buying Guide, for those who are clueless

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Intel C2D E7400
Asus P5Q Pro
Corsair Gaming Ram 4GB
HIS HD4670 ICEQ 512MB
Cooler Master Extreme Power 550w
benq t2200hd

was thinking of upgrading my graphic card.. is my mobo CF-able ? so i just buy another 4670? or whats the recommendation ?

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QUOTE(drealar @ Jun 23 2009, 09:31 AM)
Paca, concerning the LCD monitor, I wanna share some fact and experience.

First of all, let's talk about the pixel density. Just in case you don't have much info on it, here is a brief breakdown.

-Pixel density is typically the number of pixels that can fit within 1x1 square inch.
-For a casual user, the minimum comfortable pixel density is (90x90)/1 square inch = 8100 pixels/sq. in.
-Just in case you're curious, you can draw a 1 inch line and try to divide to it 90 columns  biggrin.gif (Frankly I did that before  icon_idea.gif )

Use this website as a reference: TV/LCD Size/Pixel Calculator

So what about it then, this pixel density thing?
Previously :3mushy:3 explained to you that:
20" max pix = 1680x1050(16:10) or 1600x900(16:9)
21.5" max pix= 1900x1200(16:10 or 1920x1080(16:9)

Graphic processing power:
According to piumiu's suggestion Gecube HD 4890 1GB DR5 699, I think there's no problem handling that many pixel in most games.

Usability experience; MY experience  tongue.gif  :
20"(1680x1050) have 9811 pixels / sq. in. ; 21.5"(1920x1080) have 10508 pixels / sq. in. ; My 23"(1920x1080) have 9176 pixels / sq. in.
So what?
Well, while using my 23" samsung at native resolution, I find that the text is a bit smaller than what I was used to (previously use 17" CRT Syncmaster) but after a while I'm used to it. So now the 21.5" is a smaller screen but have more than 1000 extra pixel density. Text will be much smaller in the native resolution. Well, just change the resolution right? Not really since your pic, wallpaper, browser or anything displayed on your monitor will look stretched out. Best is, try it out yourself first with your friend's LCD or go to shops to see if you're comfortable with it. Games?? Hell, just blow out the resolution to max with that HD 4890 thumbup.gif

And then comes the height. Most LCD monitor usually comes tilted, and that's all it. There are those with adjustable height, tilt and rotation with a lil bit of premium price, just a bit. So again if you can try it out first. My chair can't be adjusted and my PC table is a bit short, so I resorted to put some wooden blocks under my LCD  tongue.gif. If only my LCD can be tilted a bit more  sad.gif

So that's all for my short info/exp sharing  icon_rolleyes.gif
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is this means that i should change my resolution when i bought the 4890 system?
so sry if im too noob doh.gif
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post Jun 23 2009, 02:14 PM
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usually you will autoset the monitor to 1440x900 or 1600x1200.
so it will be the same. a single 4890 is able to run your monitor nicely and
2 4890 will perform perfect for high end games like crysis and gta4 with full resolution.
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piumiu - sorry attended to the thread late. thanks for the latest SPEC SETUP, updated on 1st post already.

the rest of you can refer to piumiu's contribution. smile.gif

other than that, I've also updated my PCBG, the simplistic setup guide.
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hurm what i see the price is not bad all but still some of it expnsive than price in lowyat
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Hai there, Can you guys give me an opinion on making CPU? I'm hardly couldn't decide at all and I'm on a tight budget actually. I want to use for some surfing, gaming and watch movie.

Can you guys give some suggestion? my budget is about RM2k-RM2.5k. Without moniter, speaker, and casing.
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i suggest you look at what piumiu and myself have suggested.

my goodness, it's as if you guys don't bother to do your homework when we've already pain-stakenly prepared all those things for you.
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Hi Piumiu,

Can suggest me a rig .. Actually i plan to build a rig with a budget of RM 3000 without lcd...

Im confuse of to choose AMD or Intel.. Some say AMD proc is hot cant last for long.

I just want to build a rig that is flexible to upgrade in future.. for example gc ...

Thanks
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QUOTE(nicholastze85 @ Jun 29 2009, 10:36 AM)
Hi Piumiu,

Can suggest me a rig .. Actually i plan to build a rig with a budget of RM 3000 without lcd...

Im confuse of to choose AMD or Intel.. Some say AMD proc is hot cant last for long.

I  just  want to build a rig that is flexible to upgrade in future.. for example gc ...

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AMD is not hot. Its fine even with stock cooler.
If you ask around. All the expert will agreed that AMD is very comparable with Intel.

Please see below for my recomendation.


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performance wise its not even comparable with Intel i7 but its definitely much cheaper than i7

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regarding the guide, can i ask does intel core 2 duo or quad compatible wit ddr3 ram? noob here >.<

and any recommendation for cooling purpose?
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QUOTE(Pro-MX @ Jun 29 2009, 12:00 PM)
performance wise its not even comparable with Intel i7 but its definitely much cheaper than i7
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If you read the review Phenom 2 is designed to fight with Intel C2Q and not i7.
In gaming quite comparable.

darknite01. Why do you need DDR3? Your cooling is paired with which processor?
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Piumiu,

Isnt ddr3 perform better than ddr2? or both is the same 1?

I havent get myself a pc yet, thinking to build 1.. so any suggestion? i thinking getting C2Q which i7 is a bit of overbudget..
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QUOTE(darknite01 @ Jun 29 2009, 01:59 PM)
Piumiu,

Isnt ddr3 perform better than ddr2? or both is the same 1?

I havent get myself a pc yet, thinking to build 1.. so any suggestion? i thinking getting C2Q which i7 is a bit of overbudget..
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I dont see the point for C2Q. I know you a Intel fanboy.
Anybudget and what are you going to use it for?
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some noob question here...
i saw most of the GC's brand piumiu recommand is Gecube,
just wondering whats the diff between diff brand??
i heard b4 its differ by its cooling system.

- so usually i open my com 24/7, do I have to worry bout the cooling prob??

- is that nessasary to get another power supply even if i'm buying coolermaster 690 casing? aren't them just differ by the PSU they provide? and the outter looks which is not really important to me..XD

was looking at piumui's AMD gaming AM3-value's plan.

thx in advance...smile.gif

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QUOTE(HellJoker @ Jun 29 2009, 05:01 PM)
some noob question here...
i saw most of the GC's brand piumiu recommand is Gecube,
just wondering whats the diff between diff brand??
i heard b4 its differ by its cooling system.

- so usually i open my com 24/7, do I have to worry bout the cooling prob??

- is that nessasary to get another power supply even if i'm buying coolermaster 690 casing? aren't them just differ by the PSU they provide? and the outter looks which is not really important to me..XD

was looking at piumui's AMD gaming AM3-value's plan.

thx in advance...smile.gif
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Gecube, Saphire and HIS are all using refernce design and coolers.
It should be the same for all these. Mostly difference are the packing, warranty and games included.
I dont see any crucial difference thats why I proposed Gecube.

If you look at my recomendation. Its already included PSU.
CM690 dosent come with PSU and the casing is very good with airflow but you have to add 2 12cm fan on top.
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QUOTE(piumiu @ Jun 29 2009, 04:30 PM)
Gecube, Saphire and HIS are all using refernce design and coolers.
It should be the same for all these. Mostly difference are the packing, warranty and games included.
I dont see any crucial difference thats why I proposed Gecube.

If you look at my recomendation. Its already included PSU.
CM690 dosent come with PSU and the casing is very good with airflow but you have to add 2 12cm fan on top.
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hmm...adding 2 12cm fan on top means i have to drill some hole on the casing??
or it already provide u the slot but without fan..

sry for another noob ques..lol..thx thx...
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QUOTE(HellJoker @ Jun 29 2009, 05:34 PM)
hmm...adding 2 12cm fan on top means i have to drill some hole on the casing??
or it already provide u the slot but without fan..

sry for another noob ques..lol..thx thx...
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its already there. just buy and screw it on.
they provide the slot without fan.

i suggest you spend time google the review for better understanding.

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no actually i am nt really a intel fan, i choose intel coz i can get discount from relative tongue.gif .. My budget is around 3k and will be using to play games.. so i am thinking about a gud solution for cooling purpose..
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just wondering, in the
ttp://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=1037659
list, how come there isn't a rig with core 2 quad?
Got some problems with C2Q izzit?
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