By now some of you have notice that your sales thread have moved move to the Garage Sales forum or one of the sub-forums there. This is done by me. The reason being is that some sales thread do not qualify in, as I believe as, the 'essence' of what a Bulk Order is.

Bulk Orders are product orders that benifit not a single person but a group of people at one go. That is to say, if a group of people came to your shop and bought several types of items and put it all under 1 receipt they will receive some sort of benifit in terms of a discount or something. Not, that they still pay the same price as if they all bought the items on individual receipts.

So following my own guidelines, Bulk Orders should be in these 3 catagories:

MOQ - Minimum Order Quantity. You all should know what this means. And there is no such thing as a MOQ 1. 2 is cutting it close but should it be cheaper than buying 1 then who am I to complain?

MOQ is not needed for BOs that state that a single unit is at a certain price and multiple units are at cheaper price e.g. 1 unit = RM60 each, 10 units = RM40 each. This acceptable for bulking by group of people with a group order or a single buyer with large order. I'd prefer it would be group orders as not many single buyers can really buy large quantities especially on high price items there for rarely benefit from this type of BO.

Time Sensitive - This means that the orders have to be received by a certain time/date. I'll accept this if there is a price differential stated. For instantance, 2 orders gets us the item at RMXXX while 5 orders gets it at RMYYY and 10 orders at RMZZZ.

Limited Stock - This means that the thread starter has already bought a number of items at Bulk price so the savings can be passed on to you guys. Limited Stock threads that replenish their stock too quickly will be moved to the appropriate forum as it is considered fishy. Limited Stocks of 1 item is not considered a Bulk Order thread, consider the quantity like MOQ.

Please state the above condition(s) clearly in the 1st post or in the Order/Buyer's List post so that buyers can refer easily.

Please always state in your Order/Buyer list and completed/successful Order/Buyer's list:

The buyer's nick.
Quantity ordered.
Date delivered.

If you have an item(s) and are not sure whether belongs in Bulk Order post it here and I'll or some will direct you.

Any suggestions and sensible comments are welcomed.

New Rule For Bulks.

Any time a Bulk reaches the amount of RM15K of paid but undelivered orders, it will be closed until all outstanding orders are cleared. That means no more new orders and payment are to be accepted. Once the outstanding or backlog of paid, undelivered orders have been cleared the Bulk will be reopened and can continue as usual.

Should the owner of the Bulk attempt to side step, use a loophole or any other trick to bypass this set limit their Bulk will be closed, any Safe Trader Tag will be stripped (the return of which will be up to consideration) and a Dispute Tag will be issued until all paid, undelivered orders are resolved.

If the Bulk owner has 2 offending threads of this sort then all their Sales threads will closed until the issue is resolved.

Finally, any buyers waiting for 2x the max delivery date of their item or longer can choose to have an immediate refund when they request it. Failure to do so will earn the Seller a Dispute Tag and removal of the Safe Trader Tag.

This post has been edited by RangerRed: Dec 5 2007, 02:02 PM

Nice... Bulk = Cheaper! not same or more expensive than shop price!

from my opinion, bulk clearly means ordering in bulk(big quantity) and sell it at cheaper price...

we also can consider it as group-buy so we reach certain quantity to get discounts...

anyway, i would it to urge that, bulk order is not for those who got stock in hand....but rather need to order and got time-frame to arrive...(referring to the bulk rules no.5)

A good lot of you have read this so dont be surprise this coming days threads r gonna be packed up n shipped off to different forums.

hope u have the time to inform the TS or Bulk Starter...if not...surely shout here and there asking where is my thread...ehhehe

yup, thread have been moved to garage sales without any notice... If give notice, TS would be much appreciate.

its good for buyer but not seller...if best price given ad...how to lower even more?so everyone has to push up their prices den wait till the week where a lot of order den lower to ori price?hhaa

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Added on April 13, 2007, 8:12 amOh ya..if i have unlimited stock where my products are being in and out..how can i give you exact amount?and time sometimes is a big question.you cant ensure someone that you will send the product and arrive when. Not everyone can online everyday to check their bulk orders.coz mayb sum ppl hav other different job..for example me..student..i cant ensure whether when i m bek to my home to send those stuff?i tink plz consider my idea.,garage is meant for small or used items..here bulk v have new items which need to sell for living.

This post has been edited by seanlimys: Apr 13 2007, 08:12 AM

Oh for god's.......... selling it at the same price to everyone is not a Bulk Order. A Bulk Order means a special, special discount on price or shipping. It can also mean special availability of hard to get items like what Sean (knives, tools, etc) sells. Example the russian gas mask sale.

Bulk Order forum is for LYN members to come together in a group and say if you are selling your hdd for RMXXX for one unit then if we all order at one go how much more discount would you give? None? Then its not a Bulk Order as explained and should go to the appropriate forum like Garage Sales - Memory and Drives. If i am not mistaken steven_seagal moved all his sales to their when that sub-forum opened and doesn't seem to have a problem.

And another thing, LYN does not owe you a living.

bulk order for sum ppl is meant for giving special price..i give special price all time..juz tat u dun tink i do..dats all..i consider mine special too coz i give special price where is not available from certain seller..

Bulk order is when we the customer order in bulk to gain a special price.

Update: MOQ is slightly updated.

i tink dun put bulk orders..put free mrket better..haha.

That u would have to ask here: http://forum.lowyat.net/MainSiteForumFeedbackandHelpdesk

i think bulk order should b for those sellers who bring in stuff in big quantities then sell it to buyers at cheap price. no matter the buyer wan to buy 1 or 2 or any amount of units its up to the buyer. if the seller wan to giv discount, giv it if the buyer buy more units.

bulk order can mean the seller at first gather a number of ppl to join in the bulk then the seller order the stuff, the seller can order exact amount of units for the buyers or extra for future buyers....

i dun see a need to transfer those some of the bulk thread to garage sales...

garage sales... is a garage sales, where u got used stuff tat u wan to sell off. or mayb things tat u buy wrong n wan sell or watsoever.

ur idea of moving thread... is not practical as i can see...

maybe to some bulk thread are turning to a garage sales type of selling then u can move la... but those like me order stuff in big quantities just for the lyn community a favour to save their money and order here instead of high price outside at the shops.. y u wan to disturb those ppl??

You know it was so bad for the 'Buyers' then I like to see the buyer post here it is so bad for them on what we r doing. Not the 'sellers' sticking up for the buyers' rights.

BTW ur thread is -

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Time Sensitive - This means that the orders have to be received by a certain time/date. I'll accept this if there is a price differential stated. For instantance, 2 orders gets us the item at RMXXX while 5 orders gets it at RMYYY and 10 orders at RMZZZ.

Please always state in your Order/Buyer list and completed/successful Order/Buyer's list:

The buyer's nick.
Quantity ordered.
Date delivered.

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Edit it accordingly.

levis guy..u r right..do u noe wat i mean levis?

Yet not one customer complaint.

Hi Mr Moderator, I want to suggest something. Can we categorize the bulk orders. Since we have the drive and memory. How about make it just like in the garage sales. I think it is good for seller and buyer as well.
Plz ignore if the suggestion had been brought up.
TQ.

Oh if it was only possible... that power i dont have.

im agree with u.........

actually...mr red...do u know tat the sale between garage sale n bulk order have big different?
cos as i know..most of the forumer will think garage sale is only selling those 2nd hand stuff..or any extra or unused stuff....
when they wanna find new stuff with cheap price..they sure go to bulk order..

plz hav a look on this description.....

Got something you're not using that you want to sell? Post your items here and see if someone wants to buy them.

know whr it come from?i think u should feel familiar for being a trade enforcer...

n also...if u think tat a sale thread must hav MOQ, or time sensitivity...is buyer will happy with this while compare to they can get the stock right away with cheapest price?
if all thread must hav this..den i sure most of the buyer will need wait for few week or month to receive the item after they paid...becos the MOQ target is not reach...
plz don think tat doing a bulk in LYN mean u can gather buyer as fast as u tot..

sometime 1 week only got 1-2order...do u think buyer will wish to wait for 2-3 week for me to accumulate 4 order if my MOQ is 4...??

actually i no offence on u..but jus really feel not logic by moving a new, cheap item to a garage sale which sell 2nd hand item with their own 2nd hand price...

sometime...bulk also can mean tat im buying or order the thing in large quantity...den sell it in cheap price compare to market....which provide fast shipping becos of stock in hand...

hope u understand...not every1 wish to buy in large quantity...not every1 wish to wait for few week to receive their item after they paid...i bet u don wan to be lik tis also if u r a buyer...is it?u sure wan to receive ur item as fast as u can right after u paid...is it?

actually i know tis is not ur fault..but..hope u can hav a meeting with the admin..to see either can suggest them to hav a slide change in the category...which differential new n 2nd hand item...
maybe change to BULK zone title to other suitable name which bulk and new item for sale can exist 2gather...

but..if u insist of moving the thread to garage sale from bulk...i bet u stil hav a long time to go..n also...new seller who wanna sell new item with cheap price..they will keep posting in bulk rather den garage sale..its a no end managing...

yup..can change it to mayb..free market perhaps?