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johnnycp

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ May 9 2007, 04:26 PM)

-Shift control for situation like dancing

free kill for me nobz

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QUOTE(johnnycp @ May 9 2007, 05:01 PM)

free kill for me nobz

Maybe i should repharse it.. Shift control dancing for a short while, Quickly take over once u settle your base.

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QUOTE(Shevo @ May 7 2007, 06:00 PM)

Ehh.....?
What replays.....I dun have original de DOW lerh,so cannot play online,and dun have replays loh - -"

Dude, get a copy. Support original for once.......if youre having trouble getting one, then PM kong and get his help.

QUOTE(Shevo @ May 7 2007, 06:04 PM)

Sabah original original game shop ah.....i dun think got oh @.@

Kong will be able to help you......

QUOTE(DarkFyre @ May 8 2007, 03:03 PM)

all i can say is that use the imbas as they were meant to be used

all races got their imbas right.. for eldar its their DR+WS+WL end game build
chaos got their PSM+Oblit or zerker spam..SM got their hated GK+Chp..
tau im not sure but vespids+TC early game is a hassle to deal with..
orks im not sure.. hmm gotta play with orks more.. well necrons...........................
will be necrons

well guys i know theres alot of imbas but i guess if you micro well you can win over any player..and i do hate whiners and sore losers...

like the other day i was playing with an eldar player on mamachi(a different network hehe) he was using reaper rush and harrasing me and all so i came out with my gk+chp and won the game he whine and say that gk+chp are so gay and all..so i had another game and i didnt use them just tacs with HB and still i won and he was just a sore loser people i tell ya..a few games also i played they say the same thing that gk+chp are gay no skill etc etc...then i didnt use them and still won till i played with this chaos guy and he pretty much whooped my ass with zerker spam then psm+oblit.. hmm.. which comes to my other question
why there is so many people whine so much..i lose alot and i dont whine.. i dont go on and say that is gay, if you use that is gay..etc etc and whats with everything being gay

oh well i ranted long enough time to get back to work...

The hell with the whiners dude.....if they cant learn to lose gracefully then its not your problem......concentrate on your goals to increase your efficiency in combat.....

QUOTE(DarkFyre @ May 8 2007, 08:38 PM)

anyway we will still have the waaagh sessions

and online games which i still enjoy..

Glad to know that you guys enjoy the WAAAAGGGGHHH sessions.......try to spread the word and bring in more ppl....

QUOTE(redeye84 @ May 8 2007, 09:28 PM)

Inqusistor is tired of killing heritics.. So now want to play football..

I guess The New Era chapter felt that the req is better spend on W11 than DOW since W11 got sponsors and more crowrds??

Relax dude......Our Lord Inquisitor knows what to do......

QUOTE(Gray Fox [X] @ May 8 2007, 09:44 PM)

Hmm so far I guess I must be tainted more often by u guys to improve, cause the AI cant teach me any more new tricks.

you have now ascended to the next level.....when you find the AI to be to easy then your rank has risen......besides you learnt from Soul......

QUOTE(DarkFyre @ May 8 2007, 10:55 PM)

lol..me too the AI even already used the AI mod there is no more things to learn from it already... lol

I bet you did......learning from Waba is a rare chance and you should be grateful that he dont mind equipping you with SM military strategies......

QUOTE(DarkFyre @ May 9 2007, 12:06 PM)

yup theres a tourney 3rd of june..
you can fight with me i play SM im trying to pick up a new race but dunno what
other race will suit me.. im trying to master SM so far so good i guess

hopefully been able to win more matches online.. but still not good enough for me cos i know what level im at against you guys and its still a very distant dream to be able to put up a good fight against you guys

In time, you will start to pwn us as well.....

QUOTE(scrubiee @ May 9 2007, 12:31 PM)

I think u are over rating tau, tau doesn't own all =.=
sorry fuj miss you out =(
sry sry thousand apologies
hope to play with u via gs or during tourney =p
losing doesnt matter hehe
the experience is what that counts! right right? u better agree with me on this hahaha =p

in your hands, Tau damn imba......yes, i agree its the experience and the ppl you meet.....no need for apologies........youre a worthy opponent.......your Tau skillz are keeping us LYNK at our sharpest...........

QUOTE(TheNameX @ May 9 2007, 12:38 PM)

Indeed. Chaos is easy to start with, just like SM. Eventually you just need to learn raptor>zerk+sorc>PSM + obli and you should make your way to auto 1300 at least. Beyond that, you need to have start to have imba skill and really know Chaos inside out. And one sad thing about Chaos is no pro like them, so you are on your own as there are not much of guidance comparing to race like SM.

Come to think of it, I still have not got myself any apprentice yet, so I'll be opened to ONE apprentice. Only one due I want to maintain the quality of mentoring as I want my apprentice to get good result in the upcoming tournament. So, those who wish to be tainted, come forth and bow to me, for I shall lead you to BLOOODDDDD~~

I thought Grayfox was your apprentice...

QUOTE(Waba @ May 9 2007, 12:59 PM)

style of play, like my SM is very different from Johnny's SM, his is orks in tactical armor

hehehehehhehe........

QUOTE(DarkFyre @ May 9 2007, 01:16 PM)

BLASPHEMY!!!! i shall not bow down to CHAOS!! for i am the emperor's fighter
i am his holy heavy bolter of might (+10)... i shall go in to a frouthing zealous frenzy to slay all that is chaos or xeno... errr i think i went a wee bit to far LOL

anyways i'll keep my options open for a second race.. but i will still try to refine my SM to a really really sharp blade which cut through THE HERET........ errrr sorry bout that hehe

hehehe........an SM fanatic.....excomm, look at the loyalty that SM has.......

QUOTE(TheNameX @ May 9 2007, 01:51 PM)

Waba, johnny and heaven, why not we compete to each other and see whose apprentice will be better in the upcoming tournament, how's that ??

Wah.......the bosses now betting on their apprentices.......

QUOTE(johnnycp @ May 9 2007, 04:16 PM)

Da ultimate green tide will start travelling to every corner in the galaxy. Starting from tomorrw night. Green will conquering all planets and plague the land with the green stuff!

Prepare to meet the green tides and good luck to you if you do not get stomped to death.

Green tide has been unleashed again.........my kind of fighting......

QUOTE(heaven @ May 9 2007, 04:45 PM)

while they do use 'Follow the pro' tactics, they sometimes use some weird combo to some effect due to that they are not tainted yet with battle scars.

Like fuj.....and his crazy NL moves around the battlefield......

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without snares i think tau is pretty useless lor
they dont have turrets or mines to defend their base =(
but true oso ler how snare works pretty imba
i think 35 power is alright cause tau needs alot of power for tier2
the cooldown is imba
and they should cut the duration by half for commander armored units(like warcraft the slow ability slows units for 40 secs but 13.3333 (1 third of all spells) for heroes.
and snares are not suppose to slow tanks thats all =p

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I think the best way to fix Snare Traps is just increase the cooldown. Add a delay so its not spamable.

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yea. the cool down time has to be fixed. and the Vespid just cant be anti buildings and infantry. that's too much.

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QUOTE(Gray Fox [X] @ May 9 2007, 04:58 PM)

Hmm for me can arrr??

Can but first you need to prove your loyalty to Khorne. Swear that you now officially betray the greater good and spill your guts on the Emperor's golden throne then I'll hand you your scythe.

QUOTE(johnnycp @ May 9 2007, 05:01 PM)

free kill for me nobz

QUOTE(redeye84 @ May 9 2007, 05:20 PM)

Maybe i should repharse it.. Shift control dancing for a short while, Quickly take over once u settle your base.

Red is right, the APM is the thing that make the difference. My shift control movement just to buy me 1 secs time and I'll be back to my screen.

QUOTE(Hunt @ May 9 2007, 07:16 PM)

I thought Grayfox was your apprentice...

I'm still open until he swear his skull, uh... his loyalty belongs to Khorne.

QUOTE(scrubiee @ May 9 2007, 08:14 PM)

That's what is debating in the dowsanc I believe. Indeed snare trap works on vec is really a bullshit. As long as they fix the snare trap will not affect vec in next patch I'm more than happy enough. At least it gives the option for other races to counter it by teching to get vec.

After 2 games with scrub yesterday, getting pawned on QT and I pawn him on BR *evil evil* I started to see SM/Orks stands a chance against Tau. The key is, split out your army and base trade. Tau general weakness, low building hp (SS is not a weakness in the hand of pro like scrub, I think I only kill 1 or 2 SS of his max). You want spam snare you spam la, you got only 1 TC and 1 vespid. So what ?? Max tact+FC and max slugga attach BM + slugga (johnny & hunt, watch replays of marteffyo, this guy orks harass is a massive one

) to the next horizon.

Vespid can only do so much to kill one or two LP of yours, so (dont tell me vespid able to kill gretchin in orks base w/o losing 1 or 2, not to say the 9 lives servitor) ?? fw is 70 bucks and tact is 50 while slugga 35. Come la... see who econ suffer more. Avoid TC unless you got tough ******* like FC/BM. Shoota/tact is a must in fighting tau. Kill vespid as much as possible because rein them need power muahahaha...

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QUOTE(TheNameX @ May 9 2007, 08:52 PM)

Can but first you need to prove your loyalty to Khorne. Swear that you now officially betray the greater good and spill your guts on the Emperor's golden throne then I'll hand you your scythe.

Hmm I though u are playing the greater good as well?? LOL

I can play Chaos, tried on AI so far and can defeat them easily. But what are the other requirements other than giving u my soul to the dark gods??

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QUOTE(Gray Fox [X)

,May 9 2007, 09:02 PM]Hmm I though u are playing the greater good as well?? LOL

I can play Chaos, tried on AI so far and can defeat them easily. But what are the other requirements other than giving u my soul to the dark gods??

Know thy enemy well so I pawn thy well.

Dedication is what I want, and attending the waaaaghh session so I can see your actual playing situation.

Oh btw, I heard that the lf of NL and harlies' kiss can be avoided due there are a casting delay (like harley will throws his/her sword, not sure on NL side). Is that true ?? If so... *evil laughing*

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QUOTE(TheNameX @ May 9 2007, 08:52 PM)

Can but first you need to prove your loyalty to Khorne. Swear that you now officially betray the greater good and spill your guts on the Emperor's golden throne then I'll hand you your scythe.
Red is right, the APM is the thing that make the difference. My shift control movement just to buy me 1 secs time and I'll be back to my screen.
I'm still open until he swear his skull, uh... his loyalty belongs to Khorne.
That's what is debating in the dowsanc I believe. Indeed snare trap works on vec is really a bullshit. As long as they fix the snare trap will not affect vec in next patch I'm more than happy enough. At least it gives the option for other races to counter it by teching to get vec.

After 2 games with scrub yesterday, getting pawned on QT and I pawn him on BR *evil evil* I started to see SM/Orks stands a chance against Tau. The key is, split out your army and base trade. Tau general weakness, low building hp (SS is not a weakness in the hand of pro like scrub, I think I only kill 1 or 2 SS of his max). You want spam snare you spam la, you got only 1 TC and 1 vespid. So what ?? Max tact+FC and max slugga attach BM + slugga (johnny & hunt, watch replays of marteffyo, this guy orks harass is a massive one

In small map any race can out mass Taau, if Tau player do TC+vespid. all he need to do is kroots+vespid / kroot+TC / vespid+FW. no gen build is the best choice. It work for me.

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QUOTE(TheNameX @ May 9 2007, 09:05 PM)

Know thy enemy well so I pawn thy well.

Dedication is what I want, and attending the waaaaghh session so I can see your actual playing situation.
Oh btw, I heard that the lf of NL and harlies' kiss can be avoided due there are a casting delay (like harley will throws his/her sword, not sure on NL side). Is that true ?? If so... *evil laughing*

Dedication can give u but attending waaaghh session every week is the problem, my badminton always crash with u all

Can have 2 waaaaghh sessions arr?? One on Friday and on Sat

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Edit:
NL LF and Kiss.... true to a certain extend, but have u seen the replay which 1 kiss kill 3 squads of full GMs?

http://dowsanctuary.com/index.php?showtopic=29502
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Anyway currently tau imba is 2 fold, Tau + vespid same time harass + snare trap spam. Anyone survived the 2 will come out only to be greeted by a wall of FWs and/or Kroots, standing on your SP.

How not to gg no re unless u have god-like skill?

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QUOTE FROM JOHNNY:
Da ultimate green tide will start travelling to every corner in the galaxy. Starting from tomorrw night. Green will conquering all planets and plague the land with the green stuff!

Prepare to meet the green tides and good luck to you if you do not get stomped to death.

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WWAAAAAGHHHH!!!! congrats to soul n osiris
Btw, can i know how to quote? until now still dunno

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QUOTE(Waba @ May 9 2007, 09:17 PM)

Edit:
NL LF and Kiss.... true to a certain extend, but have u seen the replay which 1 kiss kill 3 squads of full GMs?

even shoota boyz die in split second with Rangers+harlie kiss

TLSC|Dorkdav?? i remember my Orks owned his Eldar in bloody hell. Like I pwning noob players in tourney.

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QUOTE(Gray Fox [X)

,May 9 2007, 10:32 PM]Hmm I though u are playing the greater good as well?? LOL

I can play Chaos, tried on AI so far and can defeat them easily. But what are the other requirements other than giving u my soul to the dark gods??

ur sanity will be fine.... n trust me... u dun need them anymore when ur in chaos legion... 4 Tzeentch de God of change...

Well.. guy's finally... da pic's in sabah prime...

The new bug lord..........................................................Temporary Chaos Guy

The battle zone.............................................................War Banner

Ours 4 the taking..

...............................................Check this out

Look over here Boss.....................................................The boss's associates

Woot..Woot..

............................................We all look handsome??

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Thanks Osi for the pictures. Hmm... except the first pic, I looks awful in the rest of the pictures. Need to get used to my new hairstyle. :\

Gray fox is officially my apprentice now, hope he will be doing well in the next tournament, OR ELSE, I shall have your head upon my dinner plate.

Edit: WTF... my first pic named as Chaos Lord = =!!

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