option 5, great shots comes from great minds and great minds comes from great time(spent on shooting).

Another this is that a pro is a person who is not a scrooge when comes to knowledge..

for me, option 5 is the best... coz photographing is about d beauty of the pic

well for me..
pro photographer must be able to capture the most off the feeling in the surrounding

If "pro" can sell his photographs, obviously his/her photographs are worth buying and are considered beautiful. Otherwise no money coming in mah.

The real definition of the word 'professional' means that someone is working full time as a photographer. That's his primary vocation, be it 60%, 80% or 100%. And guess what, IMHO that professional doesnt necessarily have to take 'good' photographs to be a professional, as long as he spends majority of his time generating income from photography. Shocking huh?

Another comparative analogy is sports; for e.g. what is the diff between pro and amateur golfer? Both also handicap 0 wor and both play just as well. The "pro" is one who plays as a job, the amateur may work as a waiter or accountant or GM or director, but has a wonderful gift for playing and not earning money for it. Hence during competition, only Professional golfers can claim prize money and an amateur cannot, even if the amateur is the overall champion!

Therefore, a professional photographer with a 0 handicap could shoot crap, but plays excellent golf. At the end of the day his job title is "Photographer" and not golfer.

Good survey but choices are not mutually exclusive. I 2nd goldfries POV. Maybe if you change the question to "What makes a successful professional photographer?" and then give responses which is relevant to the question then it makes more sense.

i voted for opt 2....if ur pic got value..than u are a pro

the real definition of professional photographer is that he/she earns his/her living through photography. If you are working a full time job and doing photography as part time income; you are considered amateur.

The real definition of "pro" is actually skillful, the one who can captures very best moments are consider skillful, not pro if he/she is not earning only through photography.

I think a lot of people is confuse with the term "pro" because it has become so common that we use it to define "pro" = skillful.

Professional by default is define where a person earn 100% of his/her money through the profession he/she is doing.

A pro gamer is someone who is paid up to play the game entirely from day to night. A pro photographer is the same.

Professional is not equal to "skillful"

being professional means u have a certain professional body that governs your career.

for example;

1. if u wanna sue somebody, u'll have a Lembaga Photography / Board of Photography with all the laws with certain photography Acts and By-Laws which u can refer to.

2. if u wanna put your professional fees on photography, u have a certain scale of minimum fees under malaysia law which u can refer to. Like architects building a house or engineers, they have Lembaga Jurutera, Lembaga Architect, Architect's Act, and so on..

in photography do we have such thing? if we dont have, its not technically a professional career... we can simply put any fees based on our experience, but who r u to decide what level of experience u have? did u evaluate urself? professionals are evaluated by professional bodies to get IR for engineers, AR for Architects, SR for surveyors and so on...

its a tricky topic we r discussing here..

all in all, these are just my 2 cents.. pardon my point of view since im a practicing architect

The good and pro photographer will delete their crappy picture mean while a bad and unprofessional photographer will show off their crappy picture ..

Exactly! A Pro can shoot lowyah pictures. Equipment, percentage of income all dont define a pro. I've seen beautiful pix from amateurs.

When you're using L lens for Canon users

For me a "pro" can sell his photographs which are worth buying and are considered beautiful and saleable.

There are other definition of the word 'professional', and one of them is that someone is working full time as a photographer, owns a studio and uses "pro" level equipment. That's his primary vocation

Good survey.

Pro means someone who is making a living out of his photographic skills.
Just like pro footballers.

For me professional photographer simply means that he can decide on the split second what settings to use when he wants to capture a specific moment in time. =D

the key is to understand the words PROFESSIONAL and AMATUER.

they are not related to SKILLS. i've seen professionals with average skills. i've seen amatuers with high skills.

a professional is always expected to have skills along with their profession but this is not always true.

well in my opinion a pro photographer is a person who snap great pictures with worst camera, without editing in adobe, but makes the picture beautiful and awesome. with the touch of true nature

~acrux~

pro = dont rely on digital imaging and softwares...

a photographer using pro equipments ? hehe.. just kidding but that adds to the illusion of a "stylo" photographer right ?

http://www.louispang.com/for-photographers...nars-workshops/



and here are his gears.......

http://www.louispang.com/for-photographers/my-camera-bag/

just this 4 items how much already?

- Nikon D3
- Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8 VR
- Nikkor 24-70mm f/2.8
- Nikkor 17-35mm f/2.8



i think it's essential to get this out of people's head - post-processing has been done for decades and it will always be part and parcel of photography, even magazine teach how to post-process.

what was previously done in dark rooms are now done on computer.

using software doesn't mean turning shit to gold, it doesn't make anyone less a photographer.

do understand that even with digital sensors, they're not perfect and often need tuning to make it better.

professional photographer - a photographer that works in photography field and has discipline and high conduct of ethics in his works.

Yes agree with soulfly add one more and deliver satisfaction to customers.